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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:12 AM ET
You forgot the $1.5m for hammond


- Tumbleweed


Ottawa has no problem burying his salary in the minors........ plus he is an insurance policy if one the two Ottawa goaltenders are out of the line up for whatever reason.

the leafs bury salaries in the minors, and it seems to be the best thing in the world, according to leaf fans like yourself ....... $1.5M for Hammond is chicken feed compared to $6Million the leas are going to pay Nathan Horton this season, not to play for the leafs, and the $3.75 Million being paid to Lupul to do the same.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:15 AM ET
Andersen cap hit is 4.2mil and condon just signed for 2.4mil a year?


- burn



No, you're wrong again .......... 2.4 is the Cap hit, Cap hit does not matter to Ottawa, the actual money per season does.


I know it's hard to wrap your head around the difference between the two.

Condon is being paid $1.7 / 2.5 / 3.0 for and average of 2.4 aka Cap hit.





Also Andersen's Cap hit is the same as his yearly salary ... he signed for $5Million per season for 5 years ............ it was in all the toronto papers.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:21 AM ET
Sens are paying 3 goalies 6.3 mil, and an 8 mil cap hit

That was a good try though

- senstroll



Another trollonto fan that does not grasp the fact that Cap Hit does not Matter in Ottawa ......... actual dollars being paid out matters.

That may change in a few years, but for the past decade, Cap Hit is not a factor when your team is well below the Cap ceiling.

It's math, and even I can understand this.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:23 AM ET
It matters if they're trying to win the cup.

That's never been the goal in Ottawa, and the fans know it, which is why they'd rather save up for CFL preseason games than buy tickets to watch a team go no where.

- Feeling Glucky?




And what does that say about the intelligence level of leaf fans for the past 50 years? Can you honestly say that the leafs were trying every single year to win the Cup?

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:29 AM ET
No, you're wrong again .......... 2.4 is the Cap hit, Cap hit does not matter to Ottawa, the actual money per season does.


I know it's hard to wrap your head around the difference between the two.

Condon is being paid $1.7 / 2.5 / 3.0 for and average of 2.4 aka Cap hit.





Also Andersen's Cap hit is the same as his yearly salary ... he signed for $5Million per season for 5 years ............ it was in all the toronto papers.

- D0PPELGANGER



You're an idiot.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:33 AM ET
No, you're wrong again .......... 2.4 is the Cap hit, Cap hit does not matter to Ottawa, the actual money per season does.


I know it's hard to wrap your head around the difference between the two.

Condon is being paid $1.7 / 2.5 / 3.0 for and average of 2.4 aka Cap hit.





Also Andersen's Cap hit is the same as his yearly salary ... he signed for $5Million per season for 5 years ............ it was in all the toronto papers.

- D0PPELGANGER






Trying to explain cap hit to someone who already pointd it out. Gold.

What will you say in 3 years when your backup is being paid 3mil? Refer to his cap hit?

Thank you for telling me about Andersen cap hit and salary, after I told you want it was.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:35 AM ET


Trying to explain cap hit to someone who already pointd it out. Gold.

What will you say in 3 years when your backup is being paid 3mil? Refer to his cap hit?

Thank you for telling me about Andersen cap hit and salary, after I told you want it was.

- burn



He'll most likely be the starter then, dough head.


BTW nice picture of you yesterday
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:36 AM ET


Trying to explain cap hit to someone who already pointd it out. Gold.

What will you say in 3 years when your backup is being paid 3mil? Refer to his cap hit?

Thank you for telling me about Andersen cap hit and salary, after I told you want it was.

- burn



NO, you said his Cap hit was $4.2 ........... NOT the $5.0 that it really is.


Andersen cap hit is 4.2mil and condon just signed for 2.4mil a year?


- burn


http://stats.nhlnumbers.c...ts/1998-andersen-frederik
read it again, and have someone explain it to you.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
And what does that say about the intelligence level of leaf fans for the past 50 years? Can you honestly say that the leafs were trying every single year to win the Cup?
- D0PPELGANGER



yeah spending the most on salary in the league clearly means they weren't trying
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:39 AM ET
yeah spending the most on salary in the league clearly means they weren't trying
- burn




Harold Ballard " Who cares if I have Bums on the ice, as long as I have Bums in the seats"

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:40 AM ET
Another trollonto fan that does not grasp the fact that Cap Hit does not Matter in Ottawa ......... actual dollars being paid out matters.

That may change in a few years, but for the past decade, Cap Hit is not a factor when your team is well below the Cap ceiling.

It's math, and even I can understand this.

- D0PPELGANGER


I gave you both the $ and cap hits which are both more than the Leafs are paying for goalies.. which was your point ..you are lost

Cap hit matters more than the $ if winning the cup is important to your team.

Managing the cap properly and not overpaying players like Dion is more important if you are the sens
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:41 AM ET


Trying to explain cap hit to someone who already pointd it out. Gold.

What will you say in 3 years when your backup is being paid 3mil? Refer to his cap hit?

Thank you for telling me about Andersen cap hit and salary, after I told you want it was.

- burn


Anderson is only going to play a season or two before he retires.

Don't think Condon is the long term answer as a starter. But, he is a great signing for the next few transition years.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:42 AM ET
NO, you said his Cap hit was $4.2 ........... NOT the $5.0 that it really is.





read it again, and have someone explain it to you.

- D0PPELGANGER



I was talking about the sens you (frank)ing dope


If you can't understand that maybe you should reread or get someone to explain it to you.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:43 AM ET
Sens are paying 3 goalies 6.3 mil, and an 8 mil cap hit

That was a good try though

- senstroll


How much are they paying Phaneuf Ryan Smith and MacArthur (Although looks like he will retire)

How much will Karlsson cost

How much will Melnyk spend

#SensMathProblems
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:43 AM ET
I gave you both the $ and cap hits which are both more than the Leafs are paying for goalies.. which was your point ..you are lost

Cap hit matters more than the $ is winning the cup is important to your team.

Managing the cap properly and not overpaying players like Dion is more important if you are the sens

- senstroll




The leaf have only one goaltender signed to a NHL contract, not "goalies" .......... so yes, comparing 3 goaltenders signed by the Senators, to NHL contracts is an excellent comparison.



Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:45 AM ET
I guess you believe what you want to believe. Ottawa was close to the cap at the end of the regular season.

Ottawa decided to invest in a solid back up when they signed Condon.

Funny how you disparaged the signings that Dorion made coming up to deadline last year. But you all disappeared when the Sens went deeper and deeper into playoffs.

No veteran was more important to the Sens playoff run than Phaneuf.

- spatso


No, actually not all of us did disappear.

Funny how you disappeared when your ridiculous posts from the past proved beyond a shadow of a doubt what an idiot you are.

Amazing how you can even show your face around here with all the stupid poop you have posted.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 9:46 AM ET
I was talking about the sens you (frank)ing dope


If you can't understand that maybe you should reread or get someone to explain it to you.

- burn



Just how dense is your head?

you posted this

Andersen cap hit is 4.2mil and condon just signed for 2.4mil a year?


- burn




Ottawa does not have anyone named Andersen in their system, never mind to a NHL contract.


you're hopless


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:46 AM ET
He'll most likely be the starter then, dough head.


BTW nice picture of you yesterday

- D0PPELGANGER




Oh good, condon starter in 3 years. That's awesome


I don't get the picture....hate is it supposed on be?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:48 AM ET
The leaf have only one goaltender signed to a NHL contract, not "goalies" .......... so yes, comparing 3 goaltenders signed by the Senators, to NHL contracts is an excellent comparison.




- D0PPELGANGER


I imagine the Leafs goalie will come in at less cap hit than the Sens goalies, yet YOU brought up the whole "who is the Leafs backup" thing.

Why the F were you even going there? What do you think you are proving, particularly when your numbers were wrong.

How can you and Spatso be anything but humiliated at this point.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:48 AM ET
Just how dense is your head?

you posted this





Ottawa does not have anyone named Andersen in their system, never mind to a NHL contract.


you're hopless

- D0PPELGANGER


I will take a name misspelling / typo over stupid statements, and sub-grade 2 math any day.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:54 AM ET
Just how dense is your head?

you posted this





Ottawa does not have anyone named Andersen in their system, never mind to a NHL contract.


you're hopless

- D0PPELGANGER


I quote you about the sens goalies, and posted their cap hits. If you can't understand that you really are a (frank)ing moron.

Andersen? Anderson? Ever heard of autocorrect? My iPad changed it becuase I always type Andersen becuase he's the leafs goalie. I rarely mention Anderson becuase who cares.....

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:00 AM ET
How much are they paying Phaneuf Ryan Smith and MacArthur (Although looks like he will retire)

How much will Karlsson cost

How much will Melnyk spend

#SensMathProblems

- Aetherial


Karlsson should be in the 11-12 range if Mcdavid gets 13+

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:20 AM ET
He'll most likely be the starter then, dough head.


BTW nice picture of you yesterday

- D0PPELGANGER



Holy meltdown, Batman.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:20 AM ET
I will take a name misspelling / typo over stupid statements, and sub-grade 2 math any day.
- Aetherial



he's an idiot.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 10:22 AM ET
Karlsson should be in the 11-12 range if Mcdavid gets 13+
- senstroll


So will Matthews...

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