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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 8:29 AM ET
I think the leafs got a steal there ,him getting Mono was a good thing for leaf land.Ditto for us when Colin White dropped for the exact same reason
As for whom we picked he seems kinda meh,but at 28th in a weak draft i guess its all really a crapshoot

- top shelf 15


I am not sure its really a weak draft. There is no Sure fire superstar at the top, but from what I read its not like the rest of the draft follows suit and is all weak.

But if that were the case, thats why I think its more important to take a big swing on someone thats dropping like the Leafs and tolvanen like I mentioned.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:03 AM ET
I am not sure its really a weak draft. There is no Sure fire superstar at the top, but from what I read its not like the rest of the draft follows suit and is all weak.

But if that were the case, thats why I think its more important to take a big swing on someone thats dropping like the Leafs and tolvanen like I mentioned.

- senstroll
He did look like a neat pick ,but iam sure PD had his reason,s.Besides neither kid will do much of anything for at least 3 or 4 seasons anyhow
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:29 AM ET
He did look like a neat pick ,but iam sure PD had his reason,s.Besides neither kid will do much of anything for at least 3 or 4 seasons anyhow

- top shelf 15

I think we all know that reason. Likely very similar to the reasons behind the Phaneuf, Brassard, and Burrows trades... among other decisions.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:46 PM ET
I think we all know that reason. Likely very similar to the reasons behind the Phaneuf, Brassard, and Burrows trades... among other decisions.
- Feeling Glucky?



Oh, you mean the decisions that lead to Ottawa's appearance in the ECFs, and within one goal, in DOT in gave seven, of a second appearance in the SCFs, in ten years.

daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
Oh, you mean the decisions that lead to Ottawa's appearance in the ECFs, and within one goal, in DOT in gave seven, of a second appearance in the SCFs, in ten years.
- D0PPELGANGER

No I think he was trying to say he's not a good GM.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 12:53 PM ET
Oh, you mean the decisions that lead to Ottawa's appearance in the ECFs, and within one goal, in DOT in gave seven, of a second appearance in the SCFs, in ten years.
- D0PPELGANGER


Drafting Karlsson was a good decision yes
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
No I think he was trying to say he's not a good GM.
- daeth



So in his mind, a GM who makes moves, that results in their team qualifying for the ECFs, is not good?


That's a pretty low bar, when you consider 26 teams did not appear in either the ECFs or the WCFs???
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:01 PM ET
Drafting Karlsson was a good decision yes
- senstroll



Was PD GM in 2008, when the Senators drafted Erik Karlsson???

I always thought BM was GM way back then?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
So in his mind, a GM who makes moves, that results in their team qualifying for the ECFs, is not good?


That's a pretty low bar, when you consider 26 teams did not appear in either the ECFs or the WCFs???

- D0PPELGANGER


Did you know that Brian Burke won a cup with Anaheim?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
Was PD GM in 2008, when the Senators drafted Erik Karlsson???

I always thought BM was GM way back then?

- D0PPELGANGER


just looked...No PD was not

Huh...Maybe he is not that great a GM
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
just looked...No PD was not

Huh...Maybe he is not that great a GM

- senstroll

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Did you know that Brian Burke won a cup with Anaheim?
- prock



And how did he do in toronto?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
And how did he do in toronto?
- D0PPELGANGER



same as the turds, so no good.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
And how did he do in toronto?
- D0PPELGANGER


He won the Octobocup.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:06 PM ET
Sens making moves


Bob McKenzieVerified account @TSNBobMcKenzie
Tom Pyatt agrees to terms with OTT on a two year deal with an AAV of $1.1M.



dellowhockey‏ @dellowhockey
dellowhockey Retweeted Bob McKenzie
The money and term doesn't hurt but Tom Pyatt does.



Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
He won the Octobocup.
- golfingsince


benning is going to sign alzner.

6 years, $5M? or more?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Sens making moves







- senstroll

BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
Anyone talk about how Liljegren > Chabot yet?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
Here is a decent write up on the Leafs Draft

https://mapleleafshotstov...nto-maple-leafs-strategy/

Some weird picks that I would be surprised are ever NHL Players outside of the first 2 picks
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
Anyone talk about how Liljegren > Chabot yet?
- BetterCallSaul


chabott was the right pick for them, though.

liljegren wasn't in that draft year.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jun 26 @ 3:02 PM ET
chabott was the right pick for them, though.

liljegren wasn't in that draft year.

- Tumbleweed

K. But Still, Liljegren > Chabot.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:05 PM ET
So now we know the Full Dion Trade

Lets see how Rasanen and Lindberg pan out

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 26 @ 3:24 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun

@PierreVLeBrun

Have confirmed this with Bill Daly just now: There is no blanket rule prohibiting a team from re-acquiring player lost in exp draft already




Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

So, for example, as it relates to Marc Methot: there is no rule prohibiting the Senators from trying to trade back for him this week...




Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Pierre LeBrun Retweeted Darren Dreger

In the meantime, Pierre Dorion has targetted a few UFA D-men he'd like to talk to over the next week...
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:27 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

So, for example, as it relates to Marc Methot: there is no rule prohibiting the Senators from trying to trade back for him this week...




Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Pierre LeBrun Retweeted Darren Dreger

In the meantime, Pierre Dorion has targetted a few UFA D-men he'd like to talk to over the next week...

- D0PPELGANGER


My Sens wish list is Girardi. He would be a great pick up for a team looking to miss the playoffs
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 26 @ 3:41 PM ET
K. But Still, Liljegren > Chabot.
- BetterCallSaul


calm down.

all i want to do is talk about Liljegren being a better prospect than chaboot.

don't be so closed minded.
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