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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 19 @ 4:49 PM ET
Since the senaturds came into the league:

Regular Season
Leafs (W/L/T/OT/PTS) 877 / 772 / 112 / 143 / 2009
Sens (W/L/T/OT/PTS) 866 / 788 / 115 / 135 / 1982

Playoffs
Leafs (G/W/L) 145 / 71 / 74
Sens (G/W/L) 151 / 72 / 79

It's a tie. both suck.

- Tumbleweed



Well no............ it's not really fair to compare an expansion team, and it's first 7 to 10 seasons trying to get established, to an existing team.

The only fair comparison is when the leafs came over from the Western Conference and joined the Senators in the same division.

I think if you did a little research, the Senators measure up much better.

But if you insist on comparing the Senators expansion years to the leafs, then what does that say about the dismal state of the leafs if you have to lower the bar that far.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 4:53 PM ET
Well no............ it's not really fair to compare an expansion team, and it's first 7 to 10 seasons trying to get established, to an existing team.

The only fair comparison is when the leafs came over from the Western Conference and joined the Senators in the same division.

I think if you did a little research, the Senators measure up much better.

But if you insist on comparing the Senators expansion years to the leafs, then what does that say about the dismal state of the leafs if you have to lower the bar that far.

- D0PPELGANGER


lol. selective sample. completely arbitrary.

you guys had top 5 pick after top 5 pick in those early years and made the 2009-2015 oilers look like a well run machine.

Bottom line, arguing who had the better past seasons is like arguing about what’s better to have: syphilis or gonorrhea.

All I know is the leafs STD has cleared up and the sens STD is spreading wildly.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:05 PM ET
lol
- senstroll



Remember when he trolled us from church. epic.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 5:15 PM ET
Remember when he trolled us from church. epic.
- systemtool

Matthews = Yakupov
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:26 PM ET
Well no............ it's not really fair to compare an expansion team, and it's first 7 to 10 seasons trying to get established, to an existing team.

The only fair comparison is when the leafs came over from the Western Conference and joined the Senators in the same division.

I think if you did a little research, the Senators measure up much better.

But if you insist on comparing the Senators expansion years to the leafs, then what does that say about the dismal state of the leafs if you have to lower the bar that far.

- D0PPELGANGER



I've always found that senatard fans use the expansion thing as a cop out a little too much.

The league expanded to San Jose the year before ottawa. It took San Jose 3 years to make the playoffs.

The same year as ottawa, they expanded to Tampa Bay. It took Tampa 4 years.

The year after ottawa, they expanded to Anaheim and Florida. It took Anaheim 4 years and Florida 3 years.

It took ottawa longer than every single one of those teams, 5 years, while they were sitting there collecting more consecutive top 3 draft picks than any other team in the history of the NHL.

Dismissing it all due to them being an expansion team is a little disingenous. They were a pathetic franchise back then too.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 5:44 PM ET
I've always found that senatard fans use the expansion thing as a cop out a little too much.

The league expanded to San Jose the year before ottawa. It took San Jose 3 years to make the playoffs.

The same year as ottawa, they expanded to Tampa Bay. It took Tampa 4 years.

The year after ottawa, they expanded to Anaheim and Florida. It took Anaheim 4 years and Florida 3 years.

It took ottawa longer than every single one of those teams, 5 years, while they were sitting there collecting more consecutive top 3 draft picks than any other team in the history of the NHL.

Dismissing it all due to them being an expansion team is a little disingenous. They were a pathetic franchise back then too.

- prock

To be fair, Daigle and Phillips would set any team back a bit. Especially with Pronger being an option.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:00 PM ET
To be fair, Daigle and Phillips would set any team back a bit. Especially with Pronger being an option.
- walshyleafsfan



Daigle was the right picks but I can't believe people aren't talking about how much better Pronger is.

They actually have a long history of missing out on the best dman and ending up with the guy that'll never win you the big one. Pronger..... Choosing Redden over Chara.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:18 PM ET
Daigle was the right picks but I can't believe people aren't talking about how much better Pronger is.

They actually have a long history of missing out on the best dman and ending up with the guy that'll never win you the big one. Pronger..... Choosing Redden over Chara.

- prock

I'm not saying Daigle wasn't the right pick. I just can't believe we are not talking about it. I mean Daigle may or may not have been the right pick. I'm just saying the Ontario media spun it the way they wanted. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

Pronged = Mark Fayne

I just like to talk about drafts.

#summertalk
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:15 PM ET
Well no............ it's not really fair to compare an expansion team, and it's first 7 to 10 seasons trying to get established, to an existing team.

The only fair comparison is when the leafs came over from the Western Conference and joined the Senators in the same division.

I think if you did a little research, the Senators measure up much better.

But if you insist on comparing the Senators expansion years to the leafs, then what does that say about the dismal state of the leafs if you have to lower the bar that far.

- D0PPELGANGER

Excuses is all Sens fans ever have when talking about their team.

To be expected from fans that went from cheering for storied franchises to cheering for a team that has no cups, and no chance at one for at least another decade.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: he's 35, time to be fart the messenger boy.
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 19 @ 7:22 PM ET
Well no............ it's not really fair to compare an expansion team, and it's first 7 to 10 seasons trying to get established, to an existing team.

The only fair comparison is when the leafs came over from the Western Conference and joined the Senators in the same division.

I think if you did a little research, the Senators measure up much better.

But if you insist on comparing the Senators expansion years to the leafs, then what does that say about the dismal state of the leafs if you have to lower the bar that far.

- D0PPELGANGER


Good Lord.

The point you failed to make was that the Leafs fans are jealous of all the "success" of the Ottawa Franchise.




It was pointed out that since the Ottawa franchise was in the league, they have not accomplished much more than Toronto.

This was a perfectly appropriate counter-argument that effectively shot down yet another ill-advised, dumb, post from you.

You are rattled Dopps. You are no longer even able to follow the conversation. You need a break.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
Good Lord.

The point you failed to make was that the Leafs fans are jealous of all the "success" of the Ottawa Franchise.




It was pointed out that since the Ottawa franchise was in the league, they have not accomplished much more than Toronto.

This was a perfectly appropriate counter-argument that effectively shot down yet another ill-advised, dumb, post from you.

You are rattled Dopps. You are no longer even able to follow the conversation. You need a break.

- Aetherial

7.

I read you Leafs fans posts and decide to answer any question in my head instead

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 12 grands is NOTHING in the art market.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 19 @ 8:03 PM ET
it's his response to what you think of him
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