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daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: every day, once a day, give yourself a present, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 7 @ 11:55 PM ET
of course he likes a player called white
twiztedmike
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: I'm probably twice your size and 3X times your age. So it's a kicker how you go about things.-Nuck4U
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 8 @ 12:16 AM ET
of course he likes a player called white
- daeth

cause he's a MAN
senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 8 @ 9:13 AM ET
Not a problem. I have great confidence that the Sens will lead the Atlantic next season.
- spatso


Nah, they will miss the Playoffs
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 8 @ 9:20 AM ET
Nah, they will miss the Playoffs
- senstroll


Hey, I would not be surprised if both Ontario teams miss the playoffs .......... IF both teams return with basically the same rosters that they finished the season with.

There are a lot of teams in the Conference that look like they'll be improving on their 2016-17 performances, and competition for the 2 WC spots will be tougher than this past season.
senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 8 @ 9:38 AM ET
Hey, I would not be surprised if both Ontario teams miss the playoffs .......... IF both teams return with basically the same rosters that they finished the season with.

There are a lot of teams in the Conference that look like they'll be improving on their 2016-17 performances, and competition for the 2 WC spots will be tougher than this past season.

- D0PPELGANGER


Leafs are fine, they will improve, they lost a lot of games in OT/SO after giving up many late leads. that got better as the season went on. Leafs had sustainable underlying stats, Sens not so much
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 8 @ 9:47 AM ET
Leafs are fine, they will improve, they lost a lot of games in OT/SO after giving up many late leads. that got better as the season went on. Leafs had sustainable underlying stats, Sens not so much
- senstroll


So are you saying that if the leafs return with basically the same lineup, and no significant UFA signings, you expect to see them end the season with more points than last year?

Is each player gong to improve 5% each?
twiztedmike
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: I'm probably twice your size and 3X times your age. So it's a kicker how you go about things.-Nuck4U
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 8 @ 9:50 AM ET
Leafs are fine, they will improve, they lost a lot of games in OT/SO after giving up many late leads. that got better as the season went on. Leafs had sustainable underlying stats, Sens not so much
- senstroll

they could just as easily not win as many LOSER points as last year because they are LOSERS LOL!!!!11!!111one
senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 8 @ 9:58 AM ET
So are you saying that if the leafs return with basically the same lineup, and no significant UFA signings, you expect to see them end the season with more points than last year?

Is each player gong to improve 5% each?

- D0PPELGANGER


the lineup wont be the same, but sure if its close to the same they will still improve
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:16 AM ET
Hey, I would not be surprised if both Ontario teams miss the playoffs .......... IF both teams return with basically the same rosters that they finished the season with.

There are a lot of teams in the Conference that look like they'll be improving on their 2016-17 performances, and competition for the 2 WC spots will be tougher than this past season.

- D0PPELGANGER



The division will be wide wide open next year.

But my bet is on the Leafs to win it. With all the cap room they have to play with, and the phenomenal management team they have, I expect they'll bring in at least one top notch defensive dman. Maybe 2.

I think the Leafs' toughest competition will come from the Bolts. The Habs could be near the top again, it all depends on Carey Price really. They won't be any better, but if things go right for them, they could end next season roughly with the same number of points. Boston is in a similar position. They could remain the same, could regress. At some point in the next few years, Boston will have a brief dip, between their old guard giving up the reins and the new guard taking over.

Florida and Buffalo are total wildcards. Detroit sucks. Ottawa could back into a playoff spot again with some more chincy shootout points, but most likely miss the playoffs.

Now, all of this is predicated on what I think teams are most likely to do this offseason.

Leafs are set to fill some holes. Buffalo might fill a couple, might trade Kane, mostly lateral changes. Ottawa deluded into thinking they're great, will stand pat. Detroit will make big changes, but won't see the results for a few years. Florida hard to tell. Tampa won't do much, cap constrained, and will see what happens when they're healthy. Habs won't do much either.
senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 8 @ 11:17 AM ET
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: you'd want Couturier, Provolov and two firsts. This includes the #2 overall pick. - james tanner
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 8 @ 11:30 AM ET

- senstroll




looks like a minority of sens fans get it.

most will be in for a disappointing shock.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:54 AM ET
It's a little out of control
- Tumbleweed



Also, don't get me wrong, I think they'll do fine with the guys they've drafted. But if they think it's a foregone conclusion that they'll have the best blueline in the league at some point soon, they're kidding themselves.

Who has the best blueline now? I doubt you'll find too many top defensive teams have bulit their blueline entirely out of the draft. The only one I can think of right now is Anaheim, and while they're good, they're not really "the best".

If you get that many good D prospects, you'll probably get a few good dmen out of it. Provorov a first pairing guy. Maybe one other of them. and then another depth pairing guy. Then 2 or 3 bust.

If all of then turn into NHL dmen of ANY caliber, they should consider themselves VERY lucky. Odds are near zero. My guess, Myers and Hagg never play a full season, Morin a replaceable depth guy. Provorov first pairing guy, Sanheim 2/3 guy, Ghost is a PP specialist for life.

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