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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 6 @ 1:28 PM ET
Please explain how the same line up that lead the league in loser points, and backed into the playoffs, are somehow going to "go further next year"???

Who are they adding to the lineup to improve it? Will it be some UFAs? Are they going to make a big trade?

If not, then will the same lineup, that vastly overachieved, feasted on opponents back up goaltenders, and had the easiest schedule in the entire sports world, had the most luck of any team on the planet ........... just how will they be any better than last season? Do they expect all these fluky breaks that happened last season to repeat themselves next season?

- D0PPELGANGER




not worth my time

but i can see you're getting nervous.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 6 @ 1:29 PM ET


It is because nobody gives a poop about the team that lost in the conference final.

- Aetherial



Suffice it to say that no one gives a shit about a team that has not returned to the Finals, in over 50 years, and has never been to the Eastern Conference finals.


Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 6 @ 1:30 PM ET
Please explain how the same line up that lead the league in loser points, and backed into the playoffs, are somehow going to "go further next year"???

Who are they adding to the lineup to improve it? Will it be some UFAs? Are they going to make a big trade?

If not, then will the same lineup, that vastly overachieved, feasted on opponents back up goaltenders, and had the easiest schedule in the entire sports world, had the most luck of any team on the planet ........... just how will they be any better than last season? Do they expect all these fluky breaks that happened last season to repeat themselves next season?

- D0PPELGANGER


Nobody expects the Leafs to continue to have historical bad luck in overtime, so the number of "loser points" will decrease, while the numbers in the Wins column will rise. Just using the luck argument you brought up.

Just like the Sens will regress, as their luck evens out.

prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:31 PM ET
Please explain how the same line up that lead the league in loser points, and backed into the playoffs, are somehow going to "go further next year"???

Who are they adding to the lineup to improve it? Will it be some UFAs? Are they going to make a big trade?

If not, then will the same lineup, that vastly overachieved, feasted on opponents back up goaltenders, and had the easiest schedule in the entire sports world, had the most luck of any team on the planet ........... just how will they be any better than last season? Do they expect all these fluky breaks that happened last season to repeat themselves next season?

- D0PPELGANGER



well, first, even if it was the same lineup, a lineup of teenagers will naturally improve on their own, after their rookie seasons.

Second, they've got 25 million in cap space and budget to work with. That can improve a team a great deal.

Third, they have no players of importance that they have to expose in the expansion draft.

Several other reasons.

It's not like we have any key players that are declining, like Craig Anderson, Dion Phaneuf, Marc Methot.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:32 PM ET


not worth my time

but i can see you're getting nervous.

- Tumbleweed



sooo rattled.

The sens are such a piece of trash franchise.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 6 @ 1:32 PM ET


not worth my time

but i can see you're getting nervous.

- Tumbleweed


He just watched his team smack into a window that was never open, and never will be with their current core/ownership.

Cut him some slack.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
sooo rattled.

The sens are such a piece of trash franchise.

- prock


So good, now your even trolling Leaf fans.

Cool
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
So good, now your even trolling Leaf fans.

Cool

- spatso



are you seriously retarded? cause if you are, i would cut you some slack.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:51 PM ET


are you seriously retarded? cause if you are, i would cut you some slack.

- Tumbleweed



well, he actually CHOSE to be a senatard.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:59 PM ET
... you really don't see it do you?

Leafs fans have been talking about being in a fight for a playoff spot again next year, how our defense needs help, how we need more team toughness, some people question Andersen...

Sens fans are talking about being perennial contenders and one of the top teams in the league. They ignore their bad contracts. They dismiss the factors that worked in their favor. They ignore the woefully thin farm system. They ignore the age of their key contributors, ignore the history of Guy Boucher.

So who exactly is making more of it than it really was.

Good luck re-signing Karlsson and managing to ice a competitive team.

- Aetherial


We are more than fine going forward!

CHL/NHL Top Prospects Game 2015 [10]
Second All-Star Team 2016
First All-Star Team 2017
Emile Bouchard Trophy 2017
Paul Dumont Trophy 2017
Guy Lafleur Trophy 2017 [11]
International
WJC MVP 2017 [2]
WJC Best Defenseman 2017
WJC All-Star Team 2017

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
We are more than fine going forward!

CHL/NHL Top Prospects Game 2015

- spatso[10]
Second All-Star Team 2016
First All-Star Team 2017
Emile Bouchard Trophy 2017
Paul Dumont Trophy 2017
Guy Lafleur Trophy 2017 [11]
International
WJC MVP 2017 [2]
WJC Best Defenseman 2017
WJC All-Star Team 2017


so you agree that you farm system is thin with only one good prospect
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 6 @ 2:21 PM ET
so you agree that you farm system is thin with only one good prospect
- Tumbleweed


Sens have 4 Dmen prospects that would start for the Leafs next year. Only two will make the jump to the Sens.

White will start the season in Ottawa next year. Minimum of three rookies start the season with Ottawa (Chabot, Harpur, White).

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