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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 11 @ 9:15 AM ET
Congratulations to as you were bang on!


http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...-second-round-predictions



Hope you're right again. http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...erence-finals-predictions


in 6

- D0PPELGANGER


bang on???? he was 1 for 4. everyone except one other person on their panel was better. all v7t one. he was among the worst.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 11 @ 10:11 AM ET
bang on???? he was 1 for 4. everyone except one other person on their panel was better. all v7t one. he was among the worst.
- prock


I looked and thought the same thing

Wow he picked 1 team right out of 4 . Bang on
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 11 @ 10:38 AM ET
I looked and thought the same thing

Wow he picked 1 team right out of 4 . Bang on

- senstroll



Well, all you leaf fans picked Boston in the first round and the Rangers in the second round ............ so you're all O for 2.

who are you picking in the ECFs?

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 11 @ 10:53 AM ET
Well, all you leaf fans picked Boston in the first round and the Rangers in the second round ............ so you're all O for 2.

who are you picking in the ECFs?

- D0PPELGANGER



Boston probably wins that series healthy. Almost a sure thing really.

The senaturds upset the Rags. Good for them.

I've said in other threads, and will say it again. The Caps/Pens series is the de facto Stanley Cup final. Washington is the best team in the league, and the only team capable of beating them is the Pens.

I expect this next series to be a sweep. Sweeps are rare in the NHL, but this is one series that the prediction fits for.

Washington and Pittsburgh are a step above every team in the NHL this year.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 11 @ 11:34 AM ET
Well, all you leaf fans picked Boston in the first round and the Rangers in the second round ............ so you're all O for 2.

who are you picking in the ECFs?

- D0PPELGANGER



Pittsburgh and Nashville

it didnt surprise me they beat NYR, didnt see them as a real contender
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
Well, all you leaf fans picked Boston in the first round and the Rangers in the second round ............ so you're all O for 2.

who are you picking in the ECFs?

- D0PPELGANGER

Your myopia in all subjects is fascinating.


Pittsburgh and Anaheim.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 11 @ 11:57 AM ET
Great feature by Travis Yost on Sens and Pens.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...lem-for-senators-1.749012
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 11 @ 12:14 PM ET
Well, all you leaf fans picked Boston in the first round and the Rangers in the second round ............ so you're all O for 2.

who are you picking in the ECFs?

- D0PPELGANGER


I had Sens over Bruins. Then Rangers over Sens.

Considering how Rangers and Sens played out, it wasn't a dumb pick.

I say Pittsburgh and Nashville final... although if games 5 and 6 Fleury shows up, the Pens could be ripe for an upset.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 11 @ 12:18 PM ET
Great feature by Travis Yost on Sens and Pens.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...lem-for-senators-1.749012

- spatso


What was great about that feature.

It said absolutely nothing of any interest or surprise. As far as providing insight into the series goes, there was near zero value in that article.

Here is a better feature breaking down the series.

Best goaltending wins.
The end.


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 11 @ 12:21 PM ET
Boston probably wins that series healthy. Almost a sure thing really.

The senaturds upset the Rags. Good for them.

I've said in other threads, and will say it again. The Caps/Pens series is the de facto Stanley Cup final. Washington is the best team in the league, and the only team capable of beating them is the Pens.

I expect this next series to be a sweep. Sweeps are rare in the NHL, but this is one series that the prediction fits for.

Washington and Pittsburgh are a step above every team in the NHL this year.

- prock


I dunno Prock. How long can Fleury keep up hie level of play. Pittsburgh is missing a HUGE piece in Letang. How long can the defense hold up? How healthy is Crosby, I doubt he is as healthy as Karlsson is. Karlsson has some pain. Crosby's brain might not be right... HUGE difference.

I don't see this series as a sweep at all. If Ottawa gets the same kind of bounces they did against the Rangers and Fleury plays like Lundqvist did, there could be an upset there.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
Great feature by Travis Yost on Sens and Pens.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...lem-for-senators-1.749012

- spatso


my take away is.. Holy hell the sens are trash without Karlsson on the ice
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 11 @ 1:02 PM ET

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 11 @ 1:21 PM ET
my take away is.. Holy hell the sens are trash without Karlsson on the ice
- senstroll

Amazing how quick spazzy is to cite an article that uses advanced stats to form an argument when it benefits the Sens.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 11 @ 1:32 PM ET
I dunno Prock. How long can Fleury keep up hie level of play. Pittsburgh is missing a HUGE piece in Letang. How long can the defense hold up? How healthy is Crosby, I doubt he is as healthy as Karlsson is. Karlsson has some pain. Crosby's brain might not be right... HUGE difference.

I don't see this series as a sweep at all. If Ottawa gets the same kind of bounces they did against the Rangers and Fleury plays like Lundqvist did, there could be an upset there.

- Aetherial


Crosby seemed alright the other night.
If Fleury falters, the Pens still have another good goalie (who was their starter this year).


Obviously losing Letang is a huge blow, he's one of the top Dmen in the league. Plays well at both ends of the ice. But they still have Crosby, Malkin, and Kessel, which are the top 3 forwards..... for either team. And their D aren't too far off, even without Letang. (i.e. way better depth. The sens 2nd and 3rd pairing are pretty bad).


As has been shown, the sens get decimated when their depth is on the ice. The Pens have 2 lines they can roll out, and it has always been the case that, if you focus on covering Malkin's line, the other one will roast you. If you cover Crosby's line, the Malkin line will roast you. I not only think that won't change this series, it's going to really show, due to just how thin the Sens are.
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

May 11 @ 1:43 PM ET
It's (frank)ing DELICIOUS how much it's bugging leaf fans that the sens are doing well.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
I had Sens over Bruins. Then Rangers over Sens.

Considering how Rangers and Sens played out, it wasn't a dumb pick.

I say Pittsburgh and Nashville final... although if games 5 and 6 Fleury shows up, the Pens could be ripe for an upset.

- Aetherial



I thought I heard that Murray was healthy and ready to go.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Uh-huh
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 11 @ 3:32 PM ET
I thought I heard that Murray was healthy and ready to go.
- D0PPELGANGER


I had not heard that.

What do you do though... Fleury has been playing well and Murray hasn't been playing for quite a while.

I think you stick with Fleury and have a very short leash.

Also if Fleury plays well they may be able to trade him. It was a much tougher sell before these playoffs.
daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 11 @ 5:08 PM ET
bang on???? he was 1 for 4. everyone except one other person on their panel was better. all v7t one. he was among the worst.
- prock

daeth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: accuratently, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 11 @ 5:11 PM ET
my take away is.. Holy hell the sens are trash without Karlsson on the ice
- senstroll

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 11 @ 7:22 PM ET
I had not heard that.

What do you do though... Fleury has been playing well and Murray hasn't been playing for quite a while.

I think you stick with Fleury and have a very short leash.

Also if Fleury plays well they may be able to trade him. It was a much tougher sell before these playoffs.

- Aetherial



http://www.upi.com/Sports...for-Game-7/8761494447427/
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: I admit the whole shoplifting story line went over my head
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 11 @ 10:19 PM ET
Plan the parade
- Tumbleweed

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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 12 @ 6:07 AM ET
my take away is.. Holy hell the sens are trash without Karlsson on the ice
- senstroll


Karllson is the NHL mvp. Fans in Ottawa have known that for awhile. Welcome to our insight!
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 12 @ 6:09 AM ET
Amazing how quick spazzy is to cite an article that uses advanced stats to form an argument when it benefits the Sens.
- Feeling Glucky?


Amazing how advanced stats sometimes confirm what the casual hockey fan is able to see by watching a game.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 12 @ 6:13 AM ET
Crosby seemed alright the other night.
If Fleury falters, the Pens still have another good goalie (who was their starter this year).


Obviously losing Letang is a huge blow, he's one of the top Dmen in the league. Plays well at both ends of the ice. But they still have Crosby, Malkin, and Kessel, which are the top 3 forwards..... for either team. And their D aren't too far off, even without Letang. (i.e. way better depth. The sens 2nd and 3rd pairing are pretty bad).


As has been shown, the sens get decimated when their depth is on the ice. The Pens have 2 lines they can roll out, and it has always been the case that, if you focus on covering Malkin's line, the other one will roast you. If you cover Crosby's line, the Malkin line will roast you. I not only think that won't change this series, it's going to really show, due to just how thin the Sens are.

- prock


Keep praying. I am sure your misery over this situation is probably at an all time low. Cheer up. In another three weeks we can begin summer talk on how the Leafs are ready to win the Cup.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 12 @ 6:14 AM ET
It's (frank)ing DELICIOUS how much it's bugging leaf fans that the sens are doing well.
- haywoodjablome


I think what is even more upsetting is the realization that the Sens will be even stronger next year.
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