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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
Has this thread been reduced to Leafs vs Sens, who has the greater population?


I'm pretty sure we could have saved 700 pages and countless time. ( could have been used on the pizza/beer/wings machine )

- golfingsince

I'm certain Dopps would still have an argument in the Sens' favour if this was the case.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:23 PM ET
a) it does.
b) firing the puck at the net is almost never a bad idea - if your team maintains possession, then who the (frank) cares that a guy took a shot? Coaches preach this, and it's corsi favourable, because that line kept possession, WHICH IS WHAT THE (frank)ING STAT TRACKS. And again, if every game this hypothetical guy is taking blatantly dumb shots, the coach will have something to say about that.
c)If the guy is taking dumb shots that consistently result in turn-overs, and cost his team in terms of possession, then it's going to come back to haunt him.

- Feeling Glucky?


No it really doesn't. It wasn't a coherent post.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 28 @ 3:48 PM ET
No it really doesn't. It wasn't a coherent post.
- prock

I guess it was just above your level of understanding.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:53 PM ET
I guess it was just above your level of understanding.
- Feeling Glucky?



umm, no. Didn't you go to Fanshawe? LOL. Trust me, it's not me, it's you.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: every day, once a day, give yourself a present, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 28 @ 3:56 PM ET
umm, no. Didn't you go to Fanshawe? LOL. Trust me, it's not me, it's you.
- prock

You're potentially the dumbest poster on here.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:59 PM ET
You're potentially the dumbest poster on here.
- daeth


Maybe I'm just way above your level of understanding.

You can think what you want, I am by far among the most intelligent. It's not even a question.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 4:30 PM ET
a 40+ minute drive to get to a game and $20 parking doesn't stop toronto from filling seats. why? because there are a ton of leafs fans.

fake excuses.

- daeth



No, from my part of town, for a weeknight game, it's much closer to an hour drive, and after the game, exiting the parking lot sometimes takes 1/2 an hour.......... so the location is not ideal, and the idiot who designed the parking-lots on the site should never work again.
daws44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.08.2010

Apr 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
Maybe I'm just way above your level of understanding.

You can think what you want, I am by far among the most intelligent. It's not even a question.

- prock


Yeah. Intelligence and modesty are certainly two of your top qualities pr i ck.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
I take the Go train from pickering to games down town..the whole thing takes an hour or so to get to your seat.. plus the Go train costs (more than $20)

whiners

- senstroll


how many leaf playoff games have you been to?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 4:35 PM ET
Maybe I'm just way above your level of understanding.

You can think what you want, I am by far among the most intelligent. It's not even a question.

- prock




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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 28 @ 7:33 PM ET
umm, no. Didn't you go to Fanshawe? LOL. Trust me, it's not me, it's you.
- prock

i honestly can't tell if you're just trolling or this dumb.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 29 @ 6:23 AM ET
Senators have never gone up two games to none, when starting a series at home .......... that changes today, with a 6-5 OT win for the Sens, with both goaltenders a little off their game.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 29 @ 7:28 AM ET
a 40+ minute drive to get to a game and $20 parking doesn't stop toronto from filling seats. why? because there are a ton of leafs fans.

fake excuses.

- daeth



$20 during regular season ......... jacked up to $30 for the playoffs.









Wayne Scanlan, Ottawa Citizen

Published on: April 28, 2017

Top 10 reasons for soft attendance, as suggested by fans and members of the community:

1. Price point: Ottawa has always been a price-sensitive market. Ticket prices jump for Round 1 playoff tickets and jump again for Round 2. Those $25-$30 cheap seats in the regular season become $100. Lower-level seats are about $300, rich by local standards even if most other NHL clubs charge more.

2. Small season-ticket base: If the Senators could sell 12,000-14,000 season tickets, it would be a walk in the park to coax a sellout from game to game. In fact, there would be a scarcity driving up demand. But with a ticket base under 10,000, it places enormous pressure on the ticket office to sell 41 home dates, plus playoff dates. Fans always know there are tickets available, which further softens demand.

3. Add-ons: Nothing drives a fan crazier than excessive parking prices at a suburban, automobile-centric arena. The No. 4 lot across from the rink was $20 all season. Now it’s $30. Many fans consider this gouging. It makes them peeved enough to stay home. Reducing parking prices for the balance of the playoffs would go a long way.

4. Ottawa-Gatineau is a government bytown: Unlike Toronto, Montreal or even Calgary, Ottawa doesn’t have the corporate base to pick up the slack. Corporations snap up seats at the ACC in Toronto. The Maple Leafs don’t have to rely on their stampeding fans, who stampede anyway.

5. Phoenix pay system: For those in the private sector, this seems a vague factor. For public servants, it’s real. More than 80,000 government workers were initially affected by pay system snafus. The problems linger. There is no disposable income for people who can’t rely on getting paid regularly.

6. Home comforts: For many, the greatest seat in the house is in front of their own TV, possibly a wide-screen, 4K. One fan writes about his view from a $250 seat for a game in the Bruins series — “the view of the action at the far end was awful. The netting around the rink takes away from watching the video screen.” He watched Thursday night’s game on his 4K TV.

7. Slow-building resentment: Fans have grumbled for years about an ownership delivering mostly unsuccessful hockey, on a budget. In an unpopular move, Eugene Melnyk cut ties with several longtime managers this season, including president and co-founder Cyril Leeder. The team is suddenly winning big games. But there is often a lag between success and ticket sales.

8. Francophone factor: Many French-speaking members of the Ottawa-Gatineau region complain that the Senators don’t do enough to engage franco fans. (The CFL Redblacks have made a huge effort in this area.) One email writer complains that the club’s Facebook and Twitter sites are 100 per cent in English.

9. Location, location: An oldy, but still a factor. If the Senators were downtown (where they will be in several years), there would be a synergy with downtown restaurants and bars, tourists could walk over to the rink from their hotel. Instead, fans have to endure Queensway traffic, parking hassles and a lack of transit options. Note that the “Sens Mile” is not on Palladium Drive in Kanata.

10. Bar scene: May is approaching. The weather is finally breaking (more or less). Outdoor cafés beckon. Fans who have been cooped up all winter are busting to enjoy an evening out. Attending playoff games live is a “once in a while” thing. Fans still believe, but aren’t “All In” the arena.

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