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prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:57 PM ET
Sure. except I haven't taken back what I said. I believe Karlsson is that good. He would be right around McDavid/Matthews/Crosby if i was starting a team from scratch.
- Aetherial



good for you. I don't really care.
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All right everyone, listen up
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
posting this because its interesting
- senstroll


NHL is such a backwards ass league. Even the NFL/NBA analytical movement is being met with less hostility than the NHL's.

MLB isn't as much of a team game so it's hard to compare it to the other 3 sports.
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All right everyone, listen up
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:09 PM ET
The round 2 onwards comment just goes to show how much of a crapshoot it all is.

I think there is just no way to always be sure how good most players that young will become.

- Aetherial

For sure, but when teams like Detroit in the past and Tampa now are consistently finding more NHL'ers than other teams, there has to be a reason for it. Dinosaur GM's/scouts are wasting later round picks on prospects who are already role players in the CHL/NCAA, most current NHL role players who are effective were basically 1st line scorers in junior, or at least top 6 players. There's always the rare outliers, but why place your bet on finding the needle in the haystack when you can bet on better odds?

It's amazing how old school this league still is in 2017.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 26 @ 5:30 PM ET
The round 2 onwards comment just goes to show how much of a crapshoot it all is.

I think there is just no way to always be sure how good most players that young will become.

- Aetherial

So basically, after the 2nd, trade down as much as possible to get more picks. Try and get all the 7th rounders.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
So basically, after the 2nd, trade down as much as possible to get more picks. Try and get all the 7th rounders.
- Feeling Glucky?


yost if villified!

but seriously, i think that guy over exaggerated a little. i've seen some analysis that GM's generally don't do a much better job in the 2nd vs. 3rd rounds. so trading down from there makes sense.

rounds 4-7 don't yield many nhler's at all in comparison to rounds 2-3.
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All right everyone, listen up
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:36 PM ET
So basically, after the 2nd, trade down as much as possible to get more picks. Try and get all the 7th rounders.
- Feeling Glucky?


From the articles i've read, it's more like that after round 3. I'd actually trade down in round 4 for multiple picks in every draft...that or package round 4 and 5 to move into round 3 if possible.


Or just do what Tampa does and keep draft skill/speed in every round and profit.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:39 PM ET
From the articles i've read, it's more like that after round 3. I'd actually trade down in round 4 for multiple picks in every draft...that or package round 4 and 5 to move into round 3 if possible.


Or just do what Tampa does and keep draft skill/speed in every round and profit.

- Nucker101


that all makes sense

once you start pushing into 100 players it's all a big crap shoot.
prock
Nashville Predators
Location: Nice to know how comfortable t, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 26 @ 6:12 PM ET
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...eption-leafs-called-envy/

yep, I see a lot of this.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Apr 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
Leafs. Unquestionably so.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 26 @ 7:55 PM ET
From the articles i've read, it's more like that after round 3. I'd actually trade down in round 4 for multiple picks in every draft...that or package round 4 and 5 to move into round 3 if possible.


Or just do what Tampa does and keep draft skill/speed in every round and profit.

- Nucker101

I think this is basically Dubas's strategy.

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 26 @ 7:59 PM ET
NHL is such a backwards ass league. Even the NFL/NBA analytical movement is being met with less hostility than the NHL's.

MLB isn't as much of a team game so it's hard to compare it to the other 3 sports.

- Nucker101



analytics are taylor made for MLB.

for the majority of "at bats" the player at the plate, and the defensive team are all stationary until the ball is put into play.

The defense is set up to meet the specific defensive positioning for each particular batter , under the conditions of the game at the time.

Anallyitics have a much smaller impact on all other sports, because the there are way more variables than in MLB.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: most philly media sucks outside Bill and Eskin, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 26 @ 8:41 PM ET
analytics are taylor made for MLB.

for the majority of "at bats" the player at the plate, and the defensive team are all stationary until the ball is put into play.

The defense is set up to meet the specific defensive positioning for each particular batter , under the conditions of the game at the time.

Anallyitics have a much smaller impact on all other sports, because the there are way more variables than in MLB.

- D0PPELGANGER


Then how come NBA teams have enormous analytics departments and rely heavily on them?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:33 PM ET
Then how come NBA teams have enormous analytics departments and rely heavily on them?
- PhillySportsGuy

Bunch of fancy boys.

Analylitics only matter if you're standing still, apparently.

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