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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:41 AM ET
By what? The knowledge that ottawa has a better chance of advancing then the leafs do of even winning a game.
- haywoodjablome


I dont know that thats the case.
I would be willing to make a wager on that.

the chance of the Leafs winning 1 game is better than the Sens winning the Series.

I get that your Fan bias is in play here...but lets wager on that
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 11 @ 10:42 AM ET
The NHL determines wins based on who scored the most goals in a game.

Pull out your fancy boy stats all you want, and you can rationalize anything you want, but at the end of the day, fancy boy stats don't determine the standings or the outcomes of games, or playoff series.





Two teams, the Coyotes and the Panthers, last off season, went all in on Analytics, to how to structure their teams. They traded and drafted all based on Analytics, and structured their entire organiztion and systems based on Analytics .................. what happened to these two teams, that like you, put all their money on Analytics?

- D0PPELGANGER



yes, that's why over 82 games a positive goal differential is sign of a good team and a negative difference is a sign of a junk team.

leafs ended the season positive.

how'd the sens do?

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
I dont know that thats the case.
I would be willing to make a wager on that.

the chance of the Leafs winning 1 game is better than the Sens winning the Series.

I get that your Fan bias is in play here...but lets wager on that

- senstroll


count me in on that.

but i expect that he's all talk.
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 10:46 AM ET
I dont know that thats the case.
I would be willing to make a wager on that.

the chance of the Leafs winning 1 game is better than the Sens winning the Series.

I get that your Fan bias is in play here...but lets wager on that

- senstroll


Sure......terms?

what if sens win series and leafs win only 1 game?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 10:47 AM ET
yes, that's why over 82 games a positive goal differential is sign of a good team and a negative difference is a sign of a junk team.

leafs ended the season positive.

how'd the sens do?

- Tumbleweed




Senators won 44 games, 34 in regulation.

leafs won 40 games, 33 in regulation.

Senators won more games, and points than the leafs.

the leafs lead the league in loser points, A.K.A not able to win in 3 on 3 or SOs.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:51 AM ET
Sure......terms?

what if sens win series and leafs win only 1 game?

- haywoodjablome


then its a Push?



senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:55 AM ET
Senators won 44 games, 34 in regulation.

leafs won 40 games, 33 in regulation.

Senators won more games, and points than the leafs.

the leafs lead the league in loser points, A.K.A not able to win in 3 on 3 or SOs.

- D0PPELGANGER


Really holding strong on this one

Based on the 2 comments above that, you think you would realize how close it was for the Leafs to be ahead of the Sens. Its really a few unlucky shootout losses.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 11 @ 10:55 AM ET
Senators won 44 games, 34 in regulation.

leafs won 40 games, 33 in regulation.

Senators won more games, and points than the leafs.

the leafs lead the league in loser points, A.K.A not able to win in 3 on 3 or SOs.

- D0PPELGANGER


do they play 3 on 3 or SO's in the playoffs?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:00 AM ET
do they play 3 on 3 or SO's in the playoffs?
- Tumbleweed


No but Dopps can Raise the 2nd in the division Banner to the Rafters ..so deal with that
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 11 @ 11:02 AM ET
No but Dopps can Raise the 2nd in the division Banner to the Rafters ..so deal with that
- senstroll


Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:17 AM ET
Senators won 44 games, 34 in regulation.

leafs won 40 games, 33 in regulation.

Senators won more games, and points than the leafs.

the leafs lead the league in loser points, A.K.A not able to win in 3 on 3 or SOs.

- D0PPELGANGER

Wow, a team that was supposed finish bottom 5 has only one less regulation win than a team that's spent the last couple of seasons making win-now moves.


No wonder you're rattled.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
Wow, a team that was supposed finish bottom 5 has only one less regulation win than a team that's spent the last couple of seasons making win-now moves.


No wonder you're rattled.

- Feeling Glucky?



Hey, Sens vs Bruins ........... 50% chance Sens advance

leafs vs Capitals ......... 90% chance leafs golfing in ten to twelve days



If you want to see who's rattled, it's all those leaf fans, who when the leafs had a commanding 2 goal lead on Columbus team that was sitting out half it's line up, called up and bought Senators Playoff tickets ............ and when the leaf coughed up two goals, and then shit the bed on the PP, surrendering a short handed GWG, are now trying to sell those tickets.





Good Luck vs the Capitals


haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 11 @ 11:48 AM ET
then its a Push?
- senstroll


Same if leafs are swept and sens are eliminated?

So what are the terms?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 11 @ 12:08 PM ET
Hey, Sens vs Bruins ........... 50% chance Sens advance

leafs vs Capitals ......... 90% chance leafs golfing in ten to twelve days



If you want to see who's rattled, it's all those leaf fans, who when the leafs had a commanding 2 goal lead on Columbus team that was sitting out half it's line up, called up and bought Senators Playoff tickets ............ and when the leaf coughed up two goals, and then shit the bed on the PP, surrendering a short handed GWG, are now trying to sell those tickets.





Good Luck vs the Capitals



- D0PPELGANGER

Probabaly not the best gif to use for your point.

The Leafs have a better chance of advancing than the Sens
http://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 1:23 PM ET
ESPN Experts' first-round picks for the 2017 Stanley Cup playoffs .......... for what it's worth.

http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...s-first-round-predictions

spoiler alert, no one picks the leafs to advance.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 11 @ 1:50 PM ET
ESPN Experts' first-round picks for the 2017 Stanley Cup playoffs .......... for what it's worth.

http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...s-first-round-predictions

spoiler alert, no one picks the leafs to advance.

- D0PPELGANGER



Hell of a lot of Boston there too

the funny thing is, I suspect if the senatards were playing Washington, it would look the same. If the Leafs were playing Boston, there would probably be more than 3 Leaf logos there.

And that's no joke, I'm being 100% sincere that I think that would be the case.

funny too that all 3 that chose the sens say 7 games. It's pretty much consensus that they're the underdog.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
Same if leafs are swept and sens are eliminated?

So what are the terms?

- haywoodjablome


bet $20?

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 2:58 PM ET
ESPN Experts' first-round picks for the 2017 Stanley Cup playoffs .......... for what it's worth.

http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...s-first-round-predictions

spoiler alert, no one picks the leafs to advance.

- D0PPELGANGER


I would pick the Caps also..thats not a surprise they are really (frank)ing good..and the Leafs were 30th 1 year ago

But I do like almost everyone is saying 4 or 5 games
haywoodjablome
Joined: 05.09.2014

Apr 12 @ 1:18 AM ET
bet $20?
- senstroll


Not $$

Something painful.....changing your profile pic or location or something like that.

If I win you have a send pic (can't be an insulting one) for the entire offseason.......ill do the same with a leafs pic
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 12 @ 5:16 AM ET
Love playoff hockey.

I think the fact that the Sens were 4-0-0 against the Bruins during the regular season actually works against them. Games were too close and Boston is due for a reversal.

On the other hand, Ottawa tends to feast on teams that play strong possession games and Boston is right near the top in possession statistics.

Sens start playoffs with the strongest line up they have had all year. Boston has some injuries on their back end and I think that may be where the difference is in a long series.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 12 @ 5:19 AM ET
I think the Leafs steal a game in Washington and win one of two in Toronto. Series is tied 2-2 for game 5 and the pressure on Washington is withering. Winner of game 5 wins game 6 and the series.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 12 @ 8:49 AM ET
Not $$

Something painful.....changing your profile pic or location or something like that.

If I win you have a send pic (can't be an insulting one) for the entire offseason.......ill do the same with a leafs pic

- haywoodjablome


ok sure
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 12 @ 9:04 AM ET
Love playoff hockey.

I think the fact that the Sens were 4-0-0 against the Bruins during the regular season actually works against them. Games were too close and Boston is due for a reversal.

On the other hand, Ottawa tends to feast on teams that play strong possession games and Boston is right near the top in possession statistics.

Sens start playoffs with the strongest line up they have had all year. Boston has some injuries on their back end and I think that may be where the difference is in a long series.

- spatso




Still a coin flip ........... either team can win this series. 50/50 in my opinion.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 12 @ 10:45 AM ET
Still a coin flip ........... either team can win this series. 50/50 in my opinion.
- D0PPELGANGER


“Speed is an issue for the Bruins and they have one physical guy in (David) Backes,” the insider said.

“The key for Ottawa is the 1-3-1 they play. All of Ottawa’s offence against the Bruins, when I watched, was off turnovers in the neutral zone. The game is going to be won by that 1-3-1 by the Senators and the Bruins have to find a way to break it and get a forecheck.

“The problem for Boston is they don’t have a lot of speed so that system makes it tough on them.”

Ottawa sun
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 12 @ 10:54 AM ET
“Speed is an issue for the Bruins and they have one physical guy in (David) Backes,” the insider said.

“The key for Ottawa is the 1-3-1 they play. All of Ottawa’s offence against the Bruins, when I watched, was off turnovers in the neutral zone. The game is going to be won by that 1-3-1 by the Senators and the Bruins have to find a way to break it and get a forecheck.

“The problem for Boston is they don’t have a lot of speed so that system makes it tough on them.”

Ottawa sun

- spatso




Special teams (PP PK) are going to be a big factor in this series. The Sens special teams have sucked for more than a few weeks, if not months........... while Boston is much better in both.

Interesting thing I just heard ........... the Bruins have only scored on even strength goal on the Senators this season, and that one goal was back last fall.
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