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senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 10:09 AM ET



the Last 4 games for the Leafs look tough. But Wash, Pens and CBJ will be cooling down waiting for the playoffs.. probably resting some players.

Pens and CBJ still fighting for positioning though. its going to be close

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: every day, once a day, give yourself a present, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 10:10 AM ET
ottawa has the worst goal differential of all the teams currently sitting in a playoff series

discuss
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
ottawa has the worst goal differential of all the teams currently sitting in a playoff series

discuss

- daeth


Toronto has the worst GA ( BY FAR ) of any team in a playoff spot

discuss
senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 10:16 AM ET
you also need to be able to stop the other team from scoring..........Toronto is equally as bad at keeping the puck out as Ottawa is at putting it in.

of the 2 issues I think Ottawa, with their roster, is much more likely to figure out their scoring woes then the leafs are to learn how to play defence.

- sensarmy_11


what an odd thing to think. And completely baseless

The Leafs have a much better goal differential (removing edit, meant SO) Sens are even, leafs are +16

Underlying numbers Favor the Leafs. Standing are a Mirage, a few Shootouts go a different way and the Leafs are ahead.
senstroll
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 10:20 AM ET
Toronto has the worst GA ( BY FAR ) of any team in a playoff spot

discuss

- sensarmy_11



Goal differential is a much better indicator of success.
Sens are 17th in the NHL in shots against per Game. Better goaltending yes

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
what an odd thing to think. And completely baseless

The Leafs have a much better goal differential (removing edit, meant SO) Sens are even, leafs are +16

Underlying numbers Favor the Leafs. Standing are a Mirage, a few Shootouts go a different way and the Leafs are ahead.

- senstroll

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
Goal differential is a much better indicator of success.
Sens are 17th in the NHL in shots against per Game. Better goaltending yes

- senstroll




you leaf fans better get your talking points lined up .............. one day it's this stat, next day it's another ............ and then some days it's scoreboard.

Please pick one, and stick to it svp.

Scoreboard please
- walshyleafsfan

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: every day, once a day, give yourself a present, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
Goal differential is a much better indicator of success.
Sens are 17th in the NHL in shots against per Game. Better goaltending yes

- senstroll

going back to 2009 (as far as I bothered to check) I'd say goals against in the regular season have been slightly better for predicting success than goal differential. Almost without exception the cup winners have been ranked high in both though.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 29 @ 10:42 AM ET
you leaf fans better get your talking points lined up .............. one day it's this stat, next day it's another ............ and then some days it's scoreboard.

Please pick one, and stick to it svp.

- D0PPELGANGER

You and Spatso kept banging on about scoreboards so I had to dumb it down a tad.

Please don't be under the impression that myself, as a Leafs fan, represent the millions of other Leaf fans. They have a mind of their own and valid opinions.

Thanks.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 29 @ 10:45 AM ET
what an odd thing to think. And completely baseless

The Leafs have a much better goal differential (removing edit, meant SO) Sens are even, leafs are +16

Underlying numbers Favor the Leafs. Standing are a Mirage, a few Shootouts go a different way and the Leafs are ahead.

- senstroll


why is it baseless..............between scoring and defence what is more likely to be streaky?

Ottawa has a lot of good offensive players on their team who are very capable of putting up points but who've been a little streaky this year. their power play has also been bad (which is a system thing IMO) so if they figure that out the GF will increase quite a bit. there is also luck involved in offence, they mentioned during the broadcast last night that Hoffman is 1st in hit posts this year and dzingel was 3rd or 4th.......a few millimetres the other way and Ottawa probably has 7-8 more goals.

the leafs have a lot of high octane offensive guys who are just flat out lost in the defensive zone.....it's not streakiness or luck it's an inability to play defence.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 29 @ 10:49 AM ET
why is it baseless..............between scoring and defence what is more likely to be streaky?

Ottawa has a lot of good offensive players on their team who are very capable of putting up points but who've been a little streaky this year. their power play has also been bad (which is a system thing IMO) so if they figure that out the GF will increase quite a bit. there is also luck involved in offence, they mentioned during the broadcast last night that Hoffman is 1st in hit posts this year and dzingel was 3rd or 4th.......a few millimetres the other way and Ottawa probably has 7-8 more goals.

the leafs have a lot of high octane offensive guys who are just flat out lost in the defensive zone.....it's not streakiness or luck it's an inability to play defence.

- sensarmy_11

Streaky? 75 games?

Is it streaky? Or it is what it is?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
Atlantic Division ..... Regulation wins this season


Boston Bruins 34
Ottawa Senators 32
Montreal Canadiens 31
leafs 29

Tampa Bay Lightning 27

Buffalo Sabres 24
Florida Panthers 21

Detroit Red Wings 16
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
you also need to be able to stop the other team from scoring..........Toronto is equally as bad at keeping the puck out as Ottawa is at putting it in.

of the 2 issues I think Ottawa, with their roster, is much more likely to figure out their scoring woes then the leafs are to learn how to play defence.

- sensarmy_11

Except that the Leafs seem to have figured it out already. Their biggest problem this year was holding on to leads, and they've turned that around.

sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
Streaky? 75 games?

Is it streaky? Or it is what it is?

- walshyleafsfan


I'm not suggesting they're gonna be a top 10 offensive team ( I don't think that would ever happen under boucher's system) but I do think that they've had stretches of games where they score 1 goal or less for a few games, and then another stretch where they're putting up 3+ goals for 5 or 6.

I think given the players on the respective rosters, and their abilities, I think Ottawa is more capable of increasing their GF then the leafs are of decreasing their GA............that won't always be the case, but as you've all pointed out 347 billion times, the leafs have a lot of rookies and young players who have a lot of offensive ability but aren't very good at playing defense. will they improve over time, probably.....but will they improve by the playoffs, probably not.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
why is it baseless..............between scoring and defence what is more likely to be streaky?

Ottawa has a lot of good offensive players on their team who are very capable of putting up points but who've been a little streaky this year. their power play has also been bad (which is a system thing IMO) so if they figure that out the GF will increase quite a bit. there is also luck involved in offence, they mentioned during the broadcast last night that Hoffman is 1st in hit posts this year and dzingel was 3rd or 4th.......a few millimetres the other way and Ottawa probably has 7-8 more goals.

the leafs have a lot of high octane offensive guys who are just flat out lost in the defensive zone.....it's not streakiness or luck it's an inability to play defence.

- sensarmy_11


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