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habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Mar 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
going about this the wrong way

its okay to admit the Senators are a good team

they are.

The Leafs are good too, and are trending upwards.

The problem is the fans. spatso and d0pps are entering Stage I of the spring season with tons of optimism. The talk of playoffs has permeated the Ottawa atmosphere and fans drunkenly revel about the prospect of hoisting the first Stanley Cup ever. Stage II comes in a bit later when the final game of the season has been concluded. Sens fans will look at the standings and cheer as their team has made it again! They will mock their rivals for finishing lower in the standings - especially the Leafs and also revel in the fact that they have the best rookie in the league - this year, Patrik Laine (and next year White & Chabot).

Stage III starts in round 1 of the playoffs. Some luck & the team has managed to scrape a win but the fans applaud their team and bemoan the refs for terrible refereeing. Its an absolute travesty how other teams are getting away with giving microfractures to all of their star players. Finally, Stage IV is when the Senators are eliminated from the playoffs in humiliating fashion and Sens fans start bragging about how successful they are because they have such a great team but some bad luck has stopped them from getting to the promised land. It's OK though because they'll make it next year. And this time, Eugene Melnickel-and-dime will be willing to open the chequebook to attract star players like MacArthur and retain stars like Bobby Ryan. Every year is better than the last!!

- twiztedmike

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 23 @ 5:39 PM ET
Spatso should really file a grievance that his boss makes him work a full 24 hours shift just because the Leafs won the night before. It's not fair that his boss' hatred of the Leafs affects his life.
- walshyleafsfan


Sorry, I did watch the Leaf game last night, they did play really well.

I got back from Florida very late Sunday and have had a backlog at work and just trying to keep up.

Have been able to read most of the posts on this thread. Highly entertaining, enjoy them all.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 23 @ 5:45 PM ET
Calm before the storm.

If the leafs can stay ahead of boston, the real poop show will begin.

- Tumbleweed


If the season ends with the playoff line up being Montreal vs Rangers and Leafs vs Sens it would be great for hockey.


daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 23 @ 5:45 PM ET
Eugene Melnickel-and-dime
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 23 @ 5:51 PM ET
If the season ends with the playoff line up being Montreal vs Rangers and Leafs vs Sens it would be great for hockey.
- spatso


Agreed.






Sets up a huge quarter final showdown of leafs vs. habs.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 23 @ 5:55 PM ET
going about this the wrong way

its okay to admit the Senators are a good team

they are.

The Leafs are good too, and are trending upwards.

The problem is the fans. spatso and d0pps are entering Stage I of the spring season with tons of optimism. The talk of playoffs has permeated the Ottawa atmosphere and fans drunkenly revel about the prospect of hoisting the first Stanley Cup ever. Stage II comes in a bit later when the final game of the season has been concluded. Sens fans will look at the standings and cheer as their team has made it again! They will mock their rivals for finishing lower in the standings - especially the Leafs and also revel in the fact that they have the best rookie in the league - this year, Patrik Laine (and next year White & Chabot).

Stage III starts in round 1 of the playoffs. Some luck & the team has managed to scrape a win but the fans applaud their team and bemoan the refs for terrible refereeing. Its an absolute travesty how other teams are getting away with giving microfractures to all of their star players. Finally, Stage IV is when the Senators are eliminated from the playoffs in humiliating fashion and Sens fans start bragging about how successful they are because they have such a great team but some bad luck has stopped them from getting to the promised land. It's OK though because they'll make it next year. And this time, Eugene Melnickel-and-dime will be willing to open the chequebook to attract star players like MacArthur and retain stars like Bobby Ryan. Every year is better than the last!!

- twiztedmike


The trick is to be able to wound them so that the wound does not heal easily. Clearly it was a very delicate incision on my part. Although, to be honest, I think my comments back when Boston took the Leafs out in game 7 was even more provocative. Disappointing that nobody goes back to repeat some of those Boston series comments. Perhaps that wound still contains too much pain.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Mar 23 @ 5:58 PM ET
The trick is to be able to wound them so that the wound does not heal easily. Clearly it was a very delicate incision on my part. Although, to be honest, I think my comments back when Boston took the Leafs out in game 7 was even more provocative. Disappointing that nobody goes back to repeat some of those Boston series comments. Perhaps that wound still contains too much pain.
- spatso

yes, so much pain. that's why we all found a new favourite team with the best young talent (Laine) to root for
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 23 @ 6:00 PM ET
The trick is to be able to wound them so that the wound does not heal easily. Clearly it was a very delicate incision on my part. Although, to be honest, I think my comments back when Boston took the Leafs out in game 7 was even more provocative. Disappointing that nobody goes back to repeat some of those Boston series comments. Perhaps that wound still contains too much pain.
- spatso


Trying to turn you dumbass predictions into calculated troll comments …. holy spin city.

You have zero credibility; just an ass-clown poster.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 23 @ 6:01 PM ET
Thanks for the infinite jokes fartso
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
Thanks for the infinite jokes fartso
- daeth

You're just a typical Laffs fan.

1967

Matthews isn't even in the same class as the two Finns
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 23 @ 7:00 PM ET
You're just a typical Laffs fan.

1967

Matthews isn't even in the same class as the two Finns

- walshyleafsfan


Brah, your wound is hanging out.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM ET
The trick is to be able to wound them so that the wound does not heal easily. Clearly it was a very delicate incision on my part. Although, to be honest, I think my comments back when Boston took the Leafs out in game 7 was even more provocative. Disappointing that nobody goes back to repeat some of those Boston series comments. Perhaps that wound still contains too much pain.
- spatso

Interesting, so you admit you're a troll.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 10:36 PM ET
Interesting, so you admit you're a troll.
- Feeling Glucky?

I'm not really sure that's up for debate.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:42 PM ET
Interesting, so you admit you're a troll.
- Feeling Glucky?


That is entirely silly, I don't say anything different than what Leafs fans say. I merely say it from a Sens perspective. If this were a Sens thread than you would likely be called a troll. If it were a Leafs thread than you might call me a troll. But this is not a Leaf or Sens thread.

Some of you guys are more like girls. You get all emotional and take things personally. You should study Prock, he never takes it personally, he stays on point and he stays faithful to his long term beliefs.

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 23 @ 10:43 PM ET
That is entirely silly, I don't say anything different than what Leafs fans say. I merely say it from a Sens perspective. If this were a Sens thread than you would likely be called a troll. If it were a Leafs thread than you might call me a troll. But this is not a Leaf or Sens thread.

Some of you guys are more like girls. You get all emotional and take things personally. You should study Prock, he never takes it personally, he stays on point and he stays faithful to his long term beliefs.

- spatso

Ah, resorting to sexism now. What stage is this?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:44 PM ET
Great game between Sens and Pens. Sometimes you forget just how good and how tough Crosby is in every aspect of the game.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
Great game between Sens and Pens. Sometimes you forget just how good and how tough Crosby is in every aspect of the game.
- spatso

can you imagine if its Hab/ TO 1st round? wow
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 23 @ 10:49 PM ET
can you imagine if its Hab/ TO 1st round? wow
- Pie

Do they get the Rangers if they win the division? Pretty sure both Ottawa and Montreal would be better off finishing 2nd if that's the case. Toronto or Boston would be a much easier matchup you'd think even with the Rangers playing like poop right now.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 23 @ 10:54 PM ET
Do they get the Rangers if they win the division? Pretty sure both Ottawa and Montreal would be better off finishing 2nd if that's the case. Toronto or Boston would be a much easier matchup you'd think even with the Rangers playing like poop right now.
- daeth

I'm not sure. I think the Habs play better up. I'd rather them play the Sens in the 1st or the Rags. I do think TO will have a tough time against any of them. If TO were to win he 1st game or split home ice they could do some damage.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 23 @ 11:03 PM ET
I'm not sure. I think the Habs play better up. I'd rather them play the Sens in the 1st or the Rags. I do think TO will have a tough time against any of them. If TO were to win he 1st game or split home ice they could do some damage.
- Pie

Inexperienced teams very rarely win a round. Assuming the Leafs make the playoffs simply winning a game or two would be an accomplishment.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:04 PM ET
That is entirely silly, I don't say anything different than what Leafs fans say. I merely say it from a Sens perspective. If this were a Sens thread than you would likely be called a troll. If it were a Leafs thread than you might call me a troll. But this is not a Leaf or Sens thread.

Some of you guys are more like girls. You get all emotional and take things personally. You should study Prock, he never takes it personally, he stays on point and he stays faithful to his long term beliefs.

- spatso

Wow.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 23 @ 11:52 PM ET
Ah, resorting to sexism now. What stage is this?
- daeth


It's rattled.

It's true feelings are coming out.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 24 @ 6:23 AM ET
Great game between Sens and Pens. Sometimes you forget just how good and how tough Crosby is in every aspect of the game.
- spatso

Another example of the Sens inability to score.

Fortunately there's no 3-on-3 or shootout in the playoffs.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 24 @ 6:32 AM ET
Do they get the Rangers if they win the division? Pretty sure both Ottawa and Montreal would be better off finishing 2nd if that's the case. Toronto or Boston would be a much easier matchup you'd think even with the Rangers playing like poop right now.
- daeth


Don't think so. The Leafs are playing a lot better than the Rangers and Ottawa plays the Rangers pretty well. I want to see the Sens or Leafs or Canadiens play in the Conference final. My preference would be Ottawa vs Rangers and Montreal vs Toronto. Great result for hockey.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 24 @ 8:43 AM ET
Another example of the Sens inability to score.

Fortunately there's no 3-on-3 or shootout in the playoffs.

- Feeling Glucky?



This applies to all teams, who fail to win in regulation, and go on to accumulate points in 3 on 3 or in shoot outs.

For example the leafs are the biggest beneficiary of 3 on 3 & SO losses, in the NHL with 15 points.

Ottawa leads the Atlantic in regulation wins, and is in the top third of the league with 32 Regulation wins and have NOT lost in regulation, in consecutive games since the 7th of February................. so it terms of 5 on 5 hockey (regulation wins), Ottawa is one of the best in Eastern Conference, sitting in 5th behind only the top four teams in the Metro division.


The leafs have by comparison, have 28 regulation wins, 18th in the league and eighth in their Conference.


So by focusing only on total scoring while playing 5 on 5 ......... you're missing the bigger picture ............ Wins while playing 5 on 5 ........ and the Senators measure up as the Best 5 on 5 team in their division, 5th in their Conference and 10th in the NHL overall.
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