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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:02 PM ET
Because of autocorrect I seldom reread my posts...I make lots of errors. Aquinas believed that God was never present to the particular. God could only be experienced in the general.
- spatso



Your autocorrect must speak in Hebrew. It corrects one Jewish name to another that is not remotely close.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:08 PM ET
No.

The sens will be floundering because they don't have a good roster. I thought that part was obvious.

The whole aging thing, combined with not having any top quality prospects, is there to illustrate that they don't have any room for internal improvement.

And from previous posts, they don't have the financial or player assets to improve externally.


I'm sorry if that was too complicated for you to understand. I hope this cleared things up.

- Feeling Glucky?



the irritation and butthurt that you display on a daily basis based on the fact that Ottawa is a better team than you is delicious. Ottawa's farm system, as in outside the NHL, is better than Toronto's. our roster at the NHL level, as indicated by the standings, is better than Toronto's.

yes, you have 3 superstar rookies, nobody denies that, congrats man..........that's ALL you have. as was mentioned in previous posts.....you have no defence with no help on the way, and you have mediocre and inconsistent goaltending. congrats on having guys who can score, and the end of the day it means nothing when you can't keep the puck out of your net.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:08 PM ET
FYI, the Leafs have 5 forwards outscoring the Sens second highest scoring forward.

Effectively, what you've just said is that the Leafs have multiple "replacement parts" better than all but one of your forwards.

Being a Sens fan must be so embarassing.

- prock


OMG so desperate even for small victories. Very good. Well done. We are certain that will be recorded forever as one of the great Leaf achievements. Again, well done!
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:13 PM ET
OMG so desperate even for small victories. Very good. Well done. We are certain that will be recorded forever as one of the great Leaf achievements. Again, well done!
- spatso


I'm pretty sure the NHL announced at the GM meetings that they would be awarding a "we have 3 awesome rookies" version of the Stanley cup this year.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:13 PM ET
the irritation and butthurt that you display on a daily basis based on the fact that Ottawa is a better team than you is delicious. Ottawa's farm system, as in outside the NHL, is better than Toronto's. our roster at the NHL level, as indicated by the standings, is better than Toronto's.

yes, you have 3 superstar rookies, nobody denies that, congrats man..........that's ALL you have. as was mentioned in previous posts.....you have no defence with no help on the way, and you have mediocre and inconsistent goaltending. congrats on having guys who can score, and the end of the day it means nothing when you can't keep the puck out of your net.

- sensarmy_11


Bottom dwelling Binghamton led by ahl lifers = greater farm system than Marlies led by 20/21 year-old players.

That’s rich.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:14 PM ET
No.

The sens will be floundering because they don't have a good roster. I thought that part was obvious.

The whole aging thing, combined with not having any top quality prospects, is there to illustrate that they don't have any room for internal improvement.

And from previous posts, they don't have the financial or player assets to improve externally.


I'm sorry if that was too complicated for you to understand. I hope this cleared things up.

- Feeling Glucky?


Take some time to review the prospect roster evaluations for NHL teams. Ottawa is near the top with a load of blue chip prospects. During this year's WJC two Sens prospects were regarded as the two best players in the tournament. So, what part of the concept of player prospect do you not understand?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:16 PM ET
Bottom dwelling Binghamton led by ahl lifers = greater farm system than Marlies led by 20/21 year-old players.

That’s rich.

- Tumbleweed


Not one of the Sens top five prospects played in the AHL this season.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Bottom dwelling Binghamton led by ahl lifers = greater farm system than Marlies led by 20/21 year-old players.

That’s rich.

- Tumbleweed


none of Ottawa's prospects are in binghampton, they're in junior or Europe............so not really sure what your point is.

now I could point out the fact that all your "elite" prospects do play for the marlies and they sit 15th overall.......you would think that such a highly touted group of prospects would be a bit better
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:20 PM ET
Bottom dwelling Binghamton led by ahl lifers = greater farm system than Marlies led by 20/21 year-old players.

That’s rich.

- Tumbleweed


oh, and wasn't your AHL teams leading scorer that Froese guy who you guys all claimed was useless and not even considered a good prospect. I mean how good can your prospects be if they can't even outscore that (frank)ing guy.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:20 PM ET
Not one of the Sens top five prospects played in the AHL this season.
- spatso


Agreed, they have a longer path and even more uncertainty attached to them the leafs prospects leading the marlies.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
oh, and wasn't your AHL teams leading scorer that Froese guy who you guys all claimed was useless and not even considered a good prospect. I mean how good can your prospects be if they can't even outscore that (frank)ing guy.
- sensarmy_11


he was being outscored on a ppg basis by more than 1. but thanks for trying.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
OMG so desperate even for small victories. Very good. Well done. We are certain that will be recorded forever as one of the great Leaf achievements. Again, well done!
- spatso



LOL, Your senatard friend was the one that said the Leafs have only 3 quality forwards. Just pointing out, 5 of the top 6 scoring players between the teams are Leafs. That puts all but one forward for the Sens well down the list past players that are not considered quality.

It was your short bus friend that made the statement.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
I'm pretty sure the NHL announced at the GM meetings that they would be awarding a "we have 3 awesome rookies" version of the Stanley cup this year.
- sensarmy_11


Are those the 3 quality forwards better than your entire roster, according to you?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
Are those the 3 quality forwards better than your entire roster, according to you?
- prock


Do you not think that your perpetual "let's talk about forwards" is not noticed. Ottawa's best player is the entirely fabulous Eric Karlsson. Psst, not a forward.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:31 PM ET
Do you not think that your perpetual "let's talk about forwards" is not noticed. Ottawa's best player is the entirely fabulous Eric Karlsson. Psst, not a forward.
- spatso



Arguable.

And even if you consider him one of the top 5 d in the NHL, what team has ever won a cup with one forward that is better than a replacement part?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:31 PM ET
Are those the 3 quality forwards better than your entire roster, according to you?
- prock


Hey, step up your game. Your letting the new guy knock you around pretty easy. Are you not feeling well?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:32 PM ET
Arguable.
- prock


Your either tired or bored. I won't harass you.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:33 PM ET
Are those the 3 quality forwards better than your entire roster, according to you?
- prock


I wouldn't take any of them over karlsson (don't think most rational people...which excludes you....would)

the only one I'd take over stone is Matthews

marner and Hoffman are close, but nylander isn't as good as Hoffman

I wouldn't trade Chabot for nylander

but you go ahead and live in your little delusional world where your players are better than everyone...............maybe you have a triple personality, your prock, spatso, AND tanner.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:33 PM ET
Hey, step up your game. Your letting the new guy knock you around pretty easy. Are you not feeling well?
- spatso



I'm just waiting for answers. Lots of senatard fans deflecting, because they can't answer the questions.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
I'm just waiting for answers. Lots of senatard fans deflecting, because they can't answer the questions.
- prock


Naw he is doing pretty good. I think your just going soft.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
I wouldn't take any of them over karlsson (don't think most rational people...which excludes you....would)

the only one I'd take over stone is Matthews

marner and Hoffman are close, but nylander isn't as good as Hoffman

I wouldn't trade Chabot for nylander

but you go ahead and live in your little delusional world where your players are better than everyone...............maybe you have a triple personality, your prock, spatso, AND tanner.

- sensarmy_11



Sorry buddy, Marner, Nylander, Kadri, even JVR, all better than Hoffman.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
Sorry buddy, Marner, Nylander, Kadri, even JVR, all better than Hoffman.
- prock


sure they are tanner....
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:45 PM ET
I'm pretty sure the NHL announced at the GM meetings that they would be awarding a "we have 3 awesome rookies" version of the Stanley cup this year.
- sensarmy_11


And the Leafs wont win because they have 6
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:48 PM ET
Naw he is doing pretty good. I think your just going soft.
- spatso



I haven't seen an answer to him saying the Leafs have 3 quality forwards, while they have FIVE forwards outscoring the Sens second highest scoring forward.

Do you have a decent response to that?
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
I haven't seen an answer to him saying the Leafs have 3 quality forwards, while they have FIVE forwards outscoring the Sens second highest scoring forward.

Do you have a decent response to that?

- prock


sure, it's really easy to put up points when your entire team doesn't give a rats ass about playing any semblance of defence. Ottawa did it last year, they scored lots of goals and had lots of guys with good point totals but didn't play a lick of D.............how'd that work out for them again.

Toronto puts up lots of goals but are completely incapable or unwilling (probably incapable) of playing D...........SHOCKINGLY sitting on the outside of the playoffs looking in...................WITH THE GREATEST GROUP OF ROOKIES IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE. I mean with the greatest assembly of offense the world has ever seen you'd think they could AT LEAST make the playoffs.
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