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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:31 PM ET
Between Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Reilly, Gardiner and Zaitsev they've got a pretty good foundation. A few key moves for more stabilizing veteran presence and they'll be better.

Might I suggest Benoit Pouliot?

- TheTaoOfSemenko


no
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 6 @ 4:34 PM ET
no
- Tumbleweed

I can't even suggest him?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:35 PM ET
I can't even suggest him?
- TheTaoOfSemenko





I prefer not
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 6 @ 4:37 PM ET



I prefer not

- Tumbleweed

I suggest Benoit Pouliot
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
The Sens have had a good year. Goalies stepped up real good for them. However they are clearly a go nowhere team that is simply happy to be in a playoff spot.

Need to be careful in setting expectations for next year. Very good chance team comes back to the second half base. They will not surprise other teams next year. The Sens stole a bunch of OT/shoot-out points. May not be nearly as easy as some people think.

- Tumbleweed



"Stole a bunch of single points". So stupid. It's not the team that loses stealing the extra point of a 3 point game, it's the winning team. If you want to look for teams that stand a bigger chance of sliding, look for the ones with a high number of OT/SO wins.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
I suggest Benoit Pouliot
- TheTaoOfSemenko


TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 6 @ 4:46 PM ET

- Tumbleweed

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 6 @ 4:53 PM ET
Funny how Sens fans talk about team success while Leaf fans focus on personal insults. Need to lighten up and enjoy the hockey.
- spatso

What success are you talking about? A Jets prospect's success?

I'm sorry if you're insulted by my accurate description of your posts.

If you don't like being called stupid, maybe try posting things that aren't stupid.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
What success are you talking about? A Jets prospect's success?

I'm sorry if you're insulted by my accurate description of your posts.

If you don't like being called stupid, maybe try posting things that aren't stupid.

- Feeling Glucky?



Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 4:55 PM ET

- TheTaoOfSemenko


spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:33 PM ET
What success are you talking about? A Jets prospect's success?

I'm sorry if you're insulted by my accurate description of your posts.

If you don't like being called stupid, maybe try posting things that aren't stupid.

- Feeling Glucky?


Sens win again. Rolled 4 strong lines. Starting to look playoff ready.

Play Colorado, Arizona and Dallas in next three games.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 6 @ 11:02 PM ET
I'm well aware Karlamov was a great player. There weren't very many outside the NHL in those days though.
- prock


How could you possible know that?

The Red army Team practically beat the NHL All Star team in the Summit Series of 1972 ......... what makes you think that there were not very many good Russian hockey players, in the mid sixties, that could have easily played in the NHL?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 6 @ 11:13 PM ET
"Stole a bunch of single points". So stupid. It's not the team that loses stealing the extra point of a 3 point game, it's the winning team. If you want to look for teams that stand a bigger chance of sliding, look for the ones with a high number of OT/SO wins.
- prock



Ottawa has 32 ROWs in 64 games. (only 4 SO wins)
They have the 6th best record in the Eastern Conference.
Only 3 teams in the conference have allowed fewer goals.

Ottawa is "full value" for where they sit in the standings, no smoke and mirrors, no more or less "stolen games" than any other team.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 7 @ 6:14 AM ET
Last night Karlsson chased down Pasternak. Hard to believe anyone else in the NHL can match those wheels. Overall a very strong show by the Sens.

"I thought they did a really good job standing in front and creating the screens. That was one of the better teams I've faced in a long time. They get big bodies moving around and finding open space. We didn't do a very good job defending a lot of times." -- Bruins goaltender Tuukka Rask
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 7 @ 8:31 AM ET
The Leafs have had a good year. Young players stepped up real good for them. However they have clearly faded in the second half and struggling to try and keep contact with the teams fighting for a playoff spot.

Need to be careful in setting expectations for next year. Very good chance team comes back to the second half base. They will not surprise other teams next year. The Leafs stole a bunch of single points. May not be nearly as easy as some people think.

- spatso



Really its come down to the goalies.. they just havent got the same level since the all star break.

I think the proper context is the Leafs gave away the extra points, they didnt steal 1 point. The were leading a lot of games, not the other way around

James Mirtle‏Verified account @mirtle
ICYMI Comparing the slumping Leafs to non-slumping. Save percentage is the biggest difference

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 7 @ 8:52 AM ET
Really its come down to the goalies.. they just havent got the same level since the all star break.

I think the proper context is the Leafs gave away the extra points, they didnt steal 1 point. The were leading a lot of games, not the other way around



- senstroll


It is a good break down. It is not unusual that a young team discovers that the game becomes a lot more intense after the all star break. Last night, the game between Ottawa and Boston was an incredibly hard physical game. Both teams pounded on each other for 60 minutes. Most of the Leaf rookies have not been exposed to that level of physical intensity. They will figure it out and I expect they will have a bit of positive run to end the season.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:02 AM ET
Burrows has 3 goals in 3 games. Both he and Stalman (1 goal) have been a really big physical presence all over the ice.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 7 @ 9:21 AM ET
Really its come down to the goalies.. they just havent got the same level since the all star break.

I think the proper context is the Leafs gave away the extra points, they didnt steal 1 point. The were leading a lot of games, not the other way around



- senstroll

People didn't like it much when I said the biggest difference between the early season Leafs and current Leafs was goaltending.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:27 AM ET
People didn't like it much when I said the biggest difference between the early season Leafs and current Leafs was goaltending.
- daeth


Too simple an explanation. Big difference maintaining a strong GAA in a run and gun game played before the all star game and the crash and bang style that is characteristic of playoff hockey.

It might be less about the goaltender and more about the ability of the defence to keep the attacking players from constantly crashing the goalie's space.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 7 @ 9:31 AM ET
Too simple an explanation. Big difference maintaining a strong GAA in a run and gun game played before the all star game and the crash and bang style that is characteristic of playoff hockey.

It might be less about the goaltender and more about the ability of the defence to keep the attacking players from constantly crashing the goalie's space.

- spatso

the stats and eye test all point towards goaltending. going from unsustainably good goaltending to average goaltending is enough to kill any borderline playoff team.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 7 @ 9:59 AM ET
People didn't like it much when I said the biggest difference between the early season Leafs and current Leafs was goaltending.
- daeth


Sounds about right
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:12 AM ET
Last night Karlsson chased down Pasternak. Hard to believe anyone else in the NHL can match those wheels. Overall a very strong show by the Sens.

"I thought they did a really good job standing in front and creating the screens. That was one of the better teams I've faced in a long time. They get big bodies moving around and finding open space. We didn't do a very good job defending a lot of times." -- Bruins goaltender Tuukka Rask

- spatso

Pastrnak isn't a speed demon at all and it was the end of a shift where the Sens leaned on the Bruins in their own zone for about 45 seconds.

Winning is never boring but man as a non fan I kind of forgot about Bouchers trap game, especially with a two goal lead. Not much room out there.

If Anderson plays well you guys have a legit shot of making the ECF.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 7 @ 10:34 AM ET
Pastrnak isn't a speed demon at all and it was the end of a shift where the Sens leaned on the Bruins in their own zone for about 45 seconds.

Winning is never boring but man as a non fan I kind of forgot about Bouchers trap game, especially with a two goal lead. Not much room out there.

If Anderson plays well you guys have a legit shot of making the ECF.

- Cape Breton Bruins

Just say it. The Senators, winning or not, are boring af to watch.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 7 @ 12:06 PM ET
Just say it. The Senators, winning or not, are boring af to watch.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Sens Fan TSN radio host disagrees

Steve Warne™‏ @TSNSteve
I thought if Guy Boucher could turn the Sens around, it would be all ugly, boring wins. Not so. They're now winning AND entertaining

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 7 @ 12:17 PM ET
Just say it. The Senators, winning or not, are boring af to watch.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



Yes, as a Senator fan, that watches all the games, on TV or in person (unless traveling) I agree, the games, for the most part are boring to watch ........... but it does help that they win more than they lose ........... it's NJ Devils Jacques Lemaire boring.
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