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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:50 AM ET
Scott told kessel he was going to jump him. if he doesnt say that, then the stick swinging wouldnt have happened.
- senstroll


The axe chops to the ankles were pretty bad, but it was the spear at the end that should get him suspended.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:51 AM ET
The axe chops to the ankles were pretty bad, but it was the spear at the end that should get him suspended.
- Doppleganger


Scott told kessel he was going to jump him. if he doesnt say that, then the spear wouldnt have happened.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:51 AM ET
With the focus shifted back to Divisional standings this seems like their MO to qualify for the Playoffs, and once in anything can happen seems to be their thinking.

I can see Kessel getting suspended for his gutless spear at the end of the brawl.

- Doppleganger
Buffalo was probably sending some sort of message there ,i didnt see the game did the leafs target any of buffalo,s skill??
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:58 AM ET
Buffalo was probably sending some sort of message there ,i didnt see the game did the leafs target any of buffalo,s skill??
- top shelf 15


A fight between Devane 6'5" and Tropp 6' ...where Tropp went down with Devane on top of him and Tropp hit his head on the ice and was dazed was the catalyst.

Apparently Devane turned down a fight with Scott earlier, but accepted the fight invite from Tropp.



top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
A fight between Devane 6'5" and Tropp 6' ...where Tropp went down with Devane on top of him and Tropp hit his head on the ice and was dazed was the catalyst.

Apparently Devane turned down a fight with Scott earlier, but accepted the fight invite from Tropp.

- senstroll
Meh when players of this nature get together ,stupid stuff sometimes happens .Kessel is fine and will play on the top line making millions ,Scott will go back to being the 2 min a night goon barely holding on to his job in the nhl
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 23 @ 10:46 AM ET
Buffalo was probably sending some sort of message there ,i didnt see the game did the leafs target any of buffalo,s skill??
- top shelf 15

that'd be pretty hard to do.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 23 @ 10:47 AM ET
Just watched the "line brawl" and if Kessel keeps his hands to himself Scott would not have started swinging. That is unless there was something else that happened before.

Still don't like the two handed chops tot he ankles and then well after the melee when Scott has tied up Kessel comes in and spears him like a coward.

- Doppleganger

You might want to watch it again. If Scott doesn't jump Kessel, the fight doesn't happen.

How you can find blame with anyone other than Scott for what happened is mind boggling.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
that'd be pretty hard to do.
- Feeling Glucky?
Well played sir
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
You might want to watch it again. If Scott doesn't jump Kessel, the fight doesn't happen.

How you can find blame with anyone other than Scott for what happened is mind boggling.

- Feeling Glucky?


Does not matter. It is Kessel and Clarkson who are at risk of being suspended. Scott did his job, perhaps really, really well.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
Does not matter. It is Kessel and Clarkson who are at risk of being suspended. Scott did his job, perhaps really, really well.
- spatso

I like him but whenever a guy like JGP gets a punch in the head from him and takes a penality. For getting into a shoving match,with Kadri you have to wonder if he is doing this with little too much vigor so far.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:02 AM ET
You might want to watch it again. If Scott doesn't jump Kessel, the fight doesn't happen.

How you can find blame with anyone other than Scott for what happened is mind boggling.

- Feeling Glucky?


the only part I dont understand is why Kessel put his hand on Scotts arm...just before it went to hell
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
I like him but whenever a guy like JGP gets a punch in the head from him and takes a penality. For getting into a shoving match,with Kadri you have to wonder if he is doing this with little too much vigor so far.
- top shelf 15


I just re watched that melee a couple times to see exactly what happened.

I didnt see Clarkson punch him in the head
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
I just re watched that melee a couple times to see exactly what happened.

I didnt see Clarkson punch him in the head

- senstroll
I listened to the game on the radio ,so maybe iam off here sorry .But i heard it was between JGP and Kadri ,then I heard Clarkson getting involved and taking a penality
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Clarkson is in there why though ??Its JGP vrs Kadri

- top shelf 15


Well just before Clarkson got there....its was 2 sens on Kadri. From what the announcers were saying...clarkson was trying to remove JGP helmet...so Kardi could fight him they said.

whatever the reason...its good to know Clarkson will stick up for any teamates...whether its JGP or Scott. reminds me of Roberts
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:22 AM ET
Well just before Clarkson got there....its was 2 sens on Kadri. From what the announcers were saying...clarkson was trying to remove JGP helmet...so Kardi could fight him they said.

whatever the reason...its good to know Clarkson will stick up for any teamates...whether its JGP or Scott. reminds me of Roberts

- senstroll
Again didnt see the game ,this is what happens when you homers broadcasting on the radio you really dont get a clear picture
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
Does not matter. It is Kessel and Clarkson who are at risk of being suspended. Scott did his job, perhaps really, really well.
- spatso


Scott did his job? Nope.

FYI puck hasn't dropped yet, that's a suspension.

“@darenmillard: No“@jimmytee22: @darenmillard @MikeInBuffalo was the puck even dropped?””
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 23 @ 12:57 PM ET
the only part I dont understand is why Kessel put his hand on Scotts arm...just before it went to hell
- senstroll



That's what sparked the fight.........if Kessel does not do that, neither he or Clarkson get suspended.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 1:00 PM ET
That's what sparked the fight.........if Kessel does not do that, neither he or Clarkson get suspended.
- Doppleganger



That's not true.... Scott told kessel he was going to jump him and Phil pushed him. Get your facts straight
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 23 @ 1:01 PM ET
That's what sparked the fight.........if Kessel does not do that, neither he or Clarkson get suspended.
- Doppleganger



I've never seen anything like your aversion to the truth/to logic... on pretty much every subject. It's amazing
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 1:15 PM ET
That's what sparked the fight.........if Kessel does not do that, neither he or Clarkson get suspended.
- Doppleganger


I have watched that part over and over, and it doesnt look like a move of aggression at that point. It looks like he is nudging him to say something...probably like... please dont hurt me. Scott takes it as a sign Kessel wants to go. kessel then is startled and goes nuts.

I am sure Kessel did not expect Scott to come at him at all. Same with Carlyle, he said thats why he put him out there.



Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
Scott told kessel he was going to jump him. if he doesnt say that, then the stick swinging wouldnt have happened.
- senstroll



I have watched that part over and over, and it doesnt look like a move of aggression at that point. It looks like he is nudging him to say something...probably like... please dont hurt me. Scott takes it as a sign Kessel wants to go. kessel then is startled and goes nuts.

I am sure Kessel did not expect Scott to come at him at all. Same with Carlyle, he said thats why he put him out there.

- senstroll



So you're claiming Scott told Kessel that he's going to fight him, and then Kessel nudges him which Scott takes as the bell ringing, and then you say Kessel did not expect Scott to do exactly what he had just said he'd do. Should he have thought that Scott was going to score a Hatrick?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 1:25 PM ET
So you're claiming Scott told Kessel that he;s going to fight him, and then Kessel nudges him which Scott takes as the bell ringing, and then you say Kessel did not expect Scott to do exactly what he had just said he'd do.

- Doppleganger




That's exactly it..... Oh and the puck wasn't dropped yet.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 23 @ 1:27 PM ET
That's exactly it..... Oh and the puck wasn't dropped yet.
- burn


So is Kessel stupid or really stupid?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 23 @ 1:28 PM ET
So is Kessel stupid or really stupid?
- Doppleganger



not sure how that correlates to what happened.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
So you're claiming Scott told Kessel that he's going to fight him, and then Kessel nudges him which Scott takes as the bell ringing, and then you say Kessel did not expect Scott to do exactly what he had just said he'd do. Should he have thought that Scott was going to score a Hatrick?

- Doppleganger


right....the play hadnt started yet. its pretty obvious kessel did not expect him to start fighting then and there. It just looks like Kessel turns to say something to him, whatever it might be.

6 emotions... really?
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