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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 29 @ 9:22 AM ET
Ottawa's only chance to make the playoff, is to finish in 2nd or 3rd in their division.

I see Boston, Tampa and Ottawa in contention for those two spots, and Ottawa must stay ahead of at lest one of those two teams, but it will not be easy, as Tampa is beginning to get some of their injured players back, and when Stamkos gets back, it will surely increase their playoff hopes.

Ottawa needs to get Anderson back, and in early season form as well, and that may not happen in time for Ottawa to maintain a lead over those two teams ........... so I'm not putting any money on them as this time.

- D0PPELGANGER


pretty realistic
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 29 @ 9:24 AM ET
Tampa will likely jump over Ottawa but I doubt Boston will. With Barkov out (not sure how long) I don't see Florida as a big threat for the 3rd spot and the Leafs are probably still too young to expect any sort of consistency down the stretch.

Montreal, Tampa, Ottawa are my guesses for the top 3 spots.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 29 @ 9:26 AM ET
Tampa will likely jump over Ottawa but I doubt Boston will. With Barkov out (not sure how long) I don't see Florida as a big threat for the 3rd spot and the Leafs are probably still too young to expect any sort of consistency down the stretch.

Montreal, Tampa, Ottawa are my guesses for the top 3 spots.

- daeth


leafs have their california trip in early march and then a brutal 3 weeks to end the season right after.

i expect the leafs will hang close until then, but inexperience and a tough schedule down the stretch will get the better of them.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 29 @ 9:30 AM ET
leafs have their california trip in early march and then a brutal 3 weeks to end the season right after.

i expect the leafs will hang close until then, but inexperience and a tough schedule down the stretch will get the better of them.

- Tumbleweed

Sounds about right.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 29 @ 9:31 AM ET
leafs have their california trip in early march and then a brutal 3 weeks to end the season right after.

i expect the leafs will hang close until then, but inexperience and a tough schedule down the stretch will get the better of them.

- Tumbleweed

That SJ, LA, Ducks trip will be painful. Caps, Bolts, Pens, Jackets to finish isn't nice either lol. Who knew the Jackets would actually be a tough game though?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 29 @ 9:35 AM ET
That SJ, LA, Ducks trip will be painful. Caps, Bolts, Pens, Jackets to finish isn't nice either lol. Who knew the Jackets would actually be a tough game though?
- daeth


from March 14 - April 9, they essentially play every other day (but more with 2 back-to-backs and only 1 two-day break).
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 29 @ 9:40 AM ET
Tampa will likely jump over Ottawa but I doubt Boston will. With Barkov out (not sure how long) I don't see Florida as a big threat for the 3rd spot and the Leafs are probably still too young to expect any sort of consistency down the stretch.

Montreal, Tampa, Ottawa are my guesses for the top 3 spots.

- daeth



Looking at the Odds, you make a good point. But there is still a lot of "race track" left.


Ottawa 62.6%
toronto 54.2%
Tampa 48.6%
Boston 38.1%
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
Tampa will likely jump over Ottawa but I doubt Boston will. With Barkov out (not sure how long) I don't see Florida as a big threat for the 3rd spot and the Leafs are probably still too young to expect any sort of consistency down the stretch.

Montreal, Tampa, Ottawa are my guesses for the top 3 spots.

- daeth



I think Boston is decent.
My prediction is

Montreal
Boston
Toronto/TB fight it out for 3rd

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
My favourite thing about Spasto's Laine/Matthews stance is that he has to hide himself both when the Sens struggle or the Leafs do well, AND when Laine struggles or Matthews does well.

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
My favourite thing about Spasto's Laine/Matthews stance is that he has to hide himself both when the Sens struggle or the Leafs do well, AND when Laine struggles or Matthews does well.


- Feeling Glucky?


Its Bizarre and sad at the same time.. hitching his wagon to a player on another team, not even a Sen.

Matthews is exceeding my expectations at this point...going over the last 10 or so drafts.. there is Mcdavid alone..but its starting to look like Matthews might be the notch just below...even above Tavares/Stamkos as #1 go

I dont always agree with DJ on stuff...but on this...yes

David Johnson ‏@hockeyanalysis
I was thinking of writing a Matthews vs Laine article but I can't seem to find any evidence Laine is better than Matthews.

David Johnson ‏@hockeyanalysis
I am afraid the article would be pretty dull. Matthews has a better 5v5 G/60, A/60, Pts/60, IPP and plays with inferior line mates.


David Johnson ‏@hockeyanalysis
Plus Matthews is a center and center is a far more important position. I'll always take an equally talented center over winger.

David Johnson ‏@hockeyanalysis
This is not a knock against Laine. He looks to be a great player, but there should be little debate that Matthews is better.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Dec 29 @ 1:27 PM ET

LEAFS
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 29 @ 1:41 PM ET
LEAFS
- Not_Yan

and is it even close?
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 29 @ 3:34 PM ET
Sportsnet Stats Verified account
‏@SNstats
#Leafs rookies have combined for 123 points this season. That is 80 more than the next closest team (#NHLJets - 43).


D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 29 @ 3:57 PM ET
Sportsnet Stats Verified account
‏@SNstats
#Leafs rookies have combined for 123 points this season. That is 80 more than the next closest team (#NHLJets - 43).

- senstroll



Jets have (currently) 5 rookies for a total of 132 man games played for 43 points
which is .326 points per man game played

leafs have (currently) 8 rookies for a total of 232 man games played for 123 points
which is .530 points per man game played

(hope my math is correct)
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 29 @ 4:07 PM ET
Jets have (currently) 5 rookies for a total of 132 man games played for 43 points
which is .326 points per man game played

leafs have (currently) 8 rookies for a total of 232 man games played for 123 points
which is .530 points per man game played

- D0PPELGANGER

d0pps, your math was excellent!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 29 @ 8:23 PM ET
18th goal for Matthews. this kid is unreal.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 29 @ 9:07 PM ET
Matthews is easily the best rookie.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 9:18 PM ET
Matthews is easily the best rookie.
- RogerRoeper



so?

Crosby wasnt even the best rookie his rookie year
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 9:19 PM ET
18th goal for Matthews. this kid is unreal.
- prock

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 29 @ 9:20 PM ET
so?

Crosby wasnt even the best rookie his rookie year

- penguininnevada

crosby has been the more complete player from year 1 to now
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 9:25 PM ET
crosby has been the more complete player from year 1 to now
- daeth

so?

what does that have to do with rookie smugness
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 9:26 PM ET
so?

what does that have to do with rookie smugness

- penguininnevada


he means that laine will be a superstar, and matthews, we will never holding a stanley cup
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 9:26 PM ET
he means that laine will be a superstar, and matthews, we will never holding a stanley cup
- penguininnevada

understood
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 29 @ 9:27 PM ET
so?

what does that have to do with rookie smugness

- penguininnevada

i thought we moved on to WHO is in a better situation: CROSBY or OVECHKIN?
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 29 @ 9:28 PM ET
he means that laine will be a superstar, and matthews, we will never holding a stanley cup
- penguininnevada

on a scale from toaster to bookshelf how high are you right now
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