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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 4 @ 3:06 PM ET
the sens are garbage. put in your big boy pants and face that.
- prock



Ottawa currently has the 6th best record in the NHL, and the leafs have the 19th best record............... so they must be worse than garbage, based on your logic.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 4 @ 3:08 PM ET


You won't even consider the downfalls and negatives the Brassard and Phaneuf deals bring with them. .

- systemtool


You won't even consider the upside and positives the Brassard and Phaneuf deals brought with them.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
You won't even consider the upside and positives the Brassard and Phaneuf deals brought with them.
- D0PPELGANGER


Don't see much of them. But my point isn't for everyone to be objective. It's simply to call out Spatso and his unwillingness to do it while trolling the Leafs about it. I was just making my point.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
So now you're changing the meaning of what you've based your whole narrative on for the past couple of months?

"Win Now" only means winning the Cup.


- D0PPELGANGER



Also means going all on to make the playoffs. You know, by winning games now.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
Don't see much of them. But my point isn't for everyone to be objective. It's simply to call out Spatso and his unwillingness to do it while trolling the Leafs about it. I was just making my point.
- systemtool


I am wonderfully and gracefully objective. Always have been. It does not make me less objective merely because you or other koolaid drinkers think differently.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 4 @ 4:05 PM ET
Also means going all on to make the playoffs. You know, by winning games now.
- systemtool


So for the past couple of months, when you've be claiming the Senators were in "win now mode", you really meant they've been trying to make the playoffs???

So why didn't you just say that?



Never mind, I've read enough of your spin, backtracking and weak attempts of face-saving .................. you've been caught with your false narrative, and you've been pushing it as if it was true ........... the Citizen article I posted earlier proved you to have been 100% wrong all along.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 4 @ 4:17 PM ET
I am wonderfully and gracefully objective. Always have been. It does not make me less objective merely because you or other koolaid drinkers think differently.
- spatso


And this goes for the tang drinking comments you make when it comes to Matthews...or more specifically. .Laine.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 4 @ 4:19 PM ET
So for the past couple of months, when you've be claiming the Senators were in "win now mode", you really meant they've been trying to make the playoffs???

So why didn't you just say that?



Never mind, I've read enough of your spin, backtracking and weak attempts of face-saving .................. you've been caught with your false narrative, and you've been pushing it as if it was true ........... the Citizen article I posted earlier proved you to have been 100% wrong all along.

- D0PPELGANGER

I've always said the Sens are in win now mode. Never suggested anything different. They're trying to make the playoffs and through that win a cup. Nothing has changed and I've never said anything different. Feel free to quote me otherwise instead of just making poop up. I await the post yoy produce that has me saying the Sens are rebuilding. They're in win now mode and the moves they made isn't going to get them far.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 4 @ 4:29 PM ET
I've always said the Sens are in win now mode. Never suggested anything different. They're trying to make the playoffs and through that win a cup. Nothing has changed and I've never said anything different. Feel free to quote me otherwise instead of just making poop up. I await the post yoy produce that has me saying the Sens are rebuilding. They're in win now mode and the moves they made isn't going to get them far.
- systemtool



So far they are doing pretty good.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 4 @ 5:34 PM ET
So far they are doing pretty good.
- spatso


Better than I thought but so much season left. Leafs are doing better than you thought so I guess all is good in hockey land. Still a little under 75% of the season left should be interesting
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 5 @ 12:28 AM ET
I do try to defend your hockey knowledge. But you need to stop every once and awhile and clean up your act.
- spatso



or doest really require hockey knowledge to decipher.....

the last few cup winners have had centres like toews, Crosby, malkin, kopitar, etc. and Ottawa had kyle (frank)ing turris. lol.

the last few cup winners had elite wingers like Hossa, kunitz, Carter. Ottawa has bobby ryan. lol.

defense. the last few cup champsugar had two way beasts like Chara, keith, doughty. Ottawa has none of this.

goalies? whatever
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 5 @ 1:54 AM ET
I predict spatso becomes a Habs fan within 3 years
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 5 @ 3:18 AM ET
I predict spatso becomes a Habs fan within 3 years
- twiztedmike


Never been negative about the Habs. I was very young when my father brought me (on a chartered bus) to my very first NHL game. There were several buses arranged by Ottawa postal workers including some kids and other family members.

I remember the electricity in the Forum every time Guy Lafleur touched the puck. I was a Leaf fan and wore a Leaf sweater to the game even though Les Canadiens were playing Boston.

My father was not a hockey fan. He only went on the trip to bring me to see my first game. I played a lot of hockey up until the beginning of midget age when it quickly became apparent I was a combination of too slow, too small and too weak to effectively participate at that level. My father attended all my games he drove to every tournament and event I played in. But my favourite hockey memory of him was his taking me to my very first NHL game at the Montreal Forum.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 5 @ 3:43 AM ET
or doest really require hockey knowledge to decipher.....

the last few cup winners have had centres like toews, Crosby, malkin, kopitar, etc. and Ottawa had kyle (frank)ing turris. lol.

the last few cup winners had elite wingers like Hossa, kunitz, Carter. Ottawa has bobby ryan. lol.

defense. the last few cup champsugar had two way beasts like Chara, keith, doughty. Ottawa has none of this.

goalies? whatever

- prock


Turris is a great #2 on any team in the league. He has 10 goals, including multiple game winners. But there is no doubt he would benefit enormously if he got to play behind a big horse in the middle. Ottawa has Colin White and Logan Brown coming in their system. Colin White has the same size and game as Turris. He should have played in the NHL this year. Ottawa has said he will sign and play in Ottawa this season as soon as his Boston College season has been completed. Logan Brown had an amazing start to his season but injured his wrist and has been out a very long stretch.

Karlsson will win the Norris this year. He has never played better and his defensive play has been unbelievably strong. He leads the league in blocked shots on a team that is playing strong defensive hockey. And, as he always does, he will pull away from the rest of defensive pack in scoring in the second half of the season.

Karlsson needs to win a Stanley Cup to secure his legacy as a Hall of Fame premier attraction (every past 2 time Norris winner has been a 1st ballot inductee). Ottawa is having a great season playing a very strong defensive game and Karlsson still remains Ottawa's leading scorer, a remarkable talent.



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 5 @ 3:56 AM ET
Better than I thought but so much season left. Leafs are doing better than you thought so I guess all is good in hockey land. Still a little under 75% of the season left should be interesting
- systemtool


Duh! Give your head a shake. Leafs are in 13th place.

Scoreboard and standings matter.

By Christmas (every year) the standings will tell us the top 12 teams in the NHL that will make the playoffs and the 10 that will fight for the last 4 spots. The Leafs will have done "better than I thought" if they put themselves in the group of 10 fighting for a post season berth. I did expect that they would be in the group of 8 speculating on the best picks in the upcoming amateur draft.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 5 @ 5:55 AM ET
Never been negative about the Habs. I was very young when my father brought me (on a chartered bus) to my very first NHL game. There were several buses arranged by Ottawa postal workers including some kids and other family members.

I remember the electricity in the Forum every time Guy Lafleur touched the puck. I was a Leaf fan and wore a Leaf sweater to the game even though Les Canadiens were playing Boston.

My father was not a hockey fan. He only went on the trip to bring me to see my first game. I played a lot of hockey up until the beginning of midget age when it quickly became apparent I was a combination of too slow, too small and too weak to effectively participate at that level. My father attended all my games he drove to every tournament and event I played in. But my favourite hockey memory of him was his taking me to my very first NHL game at the Montreal Forum.

- spatso

Sorry for the loss of your father. My favourite memories with my dad involve us watching the Sundin era Leafs.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 5 @ 5:55 AM ET
Never been negative about the Habs. I was very young when my father brought me (on a chartered bus) to my very first NHL game. There were several buses arranged by Ottawa postal workers including some kids and other family members.

I remember the electricity in the Forum every time Guy Lafleur touched the puck. I was a Leaf fan and wore a Leaf sweater to the game even though Les Canadiens were playing Boston.

My father was not a hockey fan. He only went on the trip to bring me to see my first game. I played a lot of hockey up until the beginning of midget age when it quickly became apparent I was a combination of too slow, too small and too weak to effectively participate at that level. My father attended all my games he drove to every tournament and event I played in. But my favourite hockey memory of him was his taking me to my very first NHL game at the Montreal Forum.

- spatso

Sorry for the loss of your father. My favourite memories with my dad involve us watching the Sundin era Leafs.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 5 @ 6:36 AM ET
Duh! Give your head a shake. Leafs are in 13th place.

Scoreboard and standings matter.


- spatso


You said they would be 30th by December. You fool. Wrong as usual!
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 5 @ 6:42 AM ET
or doest really require hockey knowledge to decipher.....

the last few cup winners have had centres like toews, Crosby, malkin, kopitar, etc. and Ottawa had kyle (frank)ing turris. lol.

the last few cup winners had elite wingers like Hossa, kunitz, Carter. Ottawa has bobby ryan. lol.

defense. the last few cup champsugar had two way beasts like Chara, keith, doughty. Ottawa has none of this.

goalies? whatever

- prock



just stop posting man........
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 5 @ 6:43 AM ET
You said they would be 30th by December. You fool. Wrong as usual!
- systemtool


Tehee!

You just make this way too easy. The Leafs are 13th in the conference and 25th overall. They are farther away from the Sens (7 pts) than the the last place Avalanche (6 its).
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 5 @ 7:58 AM ET
Tehee!

You just make this way too easy. The Leafs are 13th in the conference and 25th overall. They are farther away from the Sens (7 pts) than the the last place Avalanche (6 its).

- spatso

So your comeback to being proved wrong is to agree that you're wrong, and take pride in the fact that your team, that has mortgaged its future for the current assembly of mediocrity is only 4 games ahead of a team with 6 rookies on roster?


Oi
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:14 AM ET
just stop posting man........
- sensarmy_11



You say things but at the same time you really are not saying anything.

I asked you earlier time respond to a post regarding Karlsson, which was 100% facts. you declined and only tried to laugh.

why cut you respond?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:17 AM ET
Turris is a great #2 on any team in the league. He has 10 goals, including multiple game winners. But there is no doubt he would benefit enormously if he got to play behind a big horse in the middle. Ottawa has Colin White and Logan Brown coming in their system. Colin White has the same size and game as Turris. He should have played in the NHL this year. Ottawa has said he will sign and play in Ottawa this season as soon as his Boston College season has been completed. Logan Brown had an amazing start to his season but injured his wrist and has been out a very long stretch.

Karlsson will win the Norris this year. He has never played better and his defensive play has been unbelievably strong. He leads the league in blocked shots on a team that is playing strong defensive hockey. And, as he always does, he will pull away from the rest of defensive pack in scoring in the second half of the season.

Karlsson needs to win a Stanley Cup to secure his legacy as a Hall of Fame premier attraction (every past 2 time Norris winner has been a 1st ballot inductee). Ottawa is having a great season playing a very strong defensive game and Karlsson still remains Ottawa's leading scorer, a remarkable talent.

- spatso


sound like you should be planning a parade!
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Xizord : I am Eklund
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
sound like you should be planning a parade!
- prock


Sounds like he has the route mapped out already
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:51 AM ET
Sounds like he has the route mapped out already
- Tumbleweed



what 8s happening with the leafs is truly special.

it seems to have people like spatso squirming.
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