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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
No where did i say that.We cant touch their high end stuff up front ,but we should better their secondary stuff easily .Kinda like the Rangers ,good top 9 that can score at a top 10 pace by committee ,our ace is EK

- top shelf 15


So your comparison to pitts made zero sense. Agreed.

Anderson = Lundqvist
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
So your comparison to pitts made zero sense. Agreed.

Anderson = Lundqvist

- Tumbleweed
You make zero sense
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:59 AM ET
You make zero sense

- top shelf 15


You think ottawa has a good team.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 12:03 PM ET
You think ottawa has a good team.
- Tumbleweed
Meh ,i said they are in the mix .I have TB as the best team in the division ,then the rest .We fall into the rest
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 12:11 PM ET
Meh ,i said they are in the mix .I have TB as the best team in the division ,then the rest .We fall into the rest
- top shelf 15



Keep fighting the good fight.... Only leaf fans delusional.

How are you better/in the mix with the divison leader (when they improved and you didnt)?
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
Keep fighting the good fight.... Only leaf fans delusional.

How are you better/in the mix with the divison leader (when they improved and you didnt)?

- burn
What fight,Ottawa did improve .Your the one being delusional if you cant see that
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:34 PM ET
Meh ,i said they are in the mix .I have TB as the best team in the division ,then the rest .We fall into the rest
- top shelf 15



The rest as in Bufall toronto new Jersey and Carolina.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:36 PM ET
What fight,Ottawa did improve .Your the one being delusional if you cant see that
- top shelf 15


Improve how? By bringing back the same roster that failed last year or am I missing the part where you guys got a goalie, a number one center, good ufas. ..where amd how did they improve? The Sens have a brutal goaltending tandem. Going to be hard to be better in the division and conference without above par goaltending.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:37 PM ET
No where did i say that.We cant touch their high end stuff up front ,but we should better their secondary stuff easily .Kinda like the Rangers ,good top 9 that can score at a top 10 pace by committee ,our ace is EK

- top shelf 15


And the Pens have aces. Not an ace. And they win cups. Not miss the playoffs and claim improvement.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 12:41 PM ET
Improve how? By bringing back the same roster that failed last year or am I missing the part where you guys got a goalie, a number one center, good ufas. ..where amd how did they improve?
- Gunslinger

How is it the same roster ??
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:45 PM ET
How is it the same roster ??
- top shelf 15


Oh I'm sorry. Forgot that trading Zibanejad for Brassard shook everything up.

Give me some proof of a roster shake up. I see that same d core same goaltending same group of forwards. Help me out here. Prove me wrong.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 17 @ 12:53 PM ET
Improve how? By bringing back the same roster that failed last year or am I missing the part where you guys got a goalie, a number one center, good ufas. ..where amd how did they improve? The Sens have a brutal goaltending tandem. Going to be hard to be better in the division and conference without above par goaltending.
- Gunslinger


If you ignore the 1/3 of their roster that is declining/likely to decline, then yes, than sens have improved.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:55 PM ET
If you ignore the 1/3 of their roster that is declining/likely to decline, then yes, than sens have improved.
- Tumbleweed


At 85 years old Anderson is just entering his prime.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:00 PM ET
Oh I'm sorry. Forgot that trading Zibanejad for Brassard shook everything up.

Give me some proof of a roster shake up. I see that same d core same goaltending same group of forwards. Help me out here. Prove me wrong.

- Gunslinger
Meh, two of our teams better possession T6 guy,s where lost for half the season,added an upgrade in this very same manner with Brassard over Zibby ,and its not at all unlikely to see an uptick in defensive zone stats .As well as special teams .Health like it is for every other team ,is the most important variable
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:00 PM ET
At 85 years old Anderson is just entering his prime.
- Gunslinger
He is 34
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:03 PM ET
Oh I'm sorry. Forgot that trading Zibanejad for Brassard shook everything up.

Give me some proof of a roster shake up. I see that same d core same goaltending same group of forwards. Help me out here. Prove me wrong.

- Gunslinger

Apparently you don't appreciate the contributions of Tom Pyatt?
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
Apparently you don't appreciate the contributions of Tom Pyatt?
- walshyleafsfan
Him and Kelley do one thing well,which is PK .We get to middle of the pack and we easily shave 15 or so goals off our G/A .Only 15 more,and Ottawa is a middle of the pack defensive team,which combined with a top 10 offense puts us solidly in the playoffs
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 17 @ 1:35 PM ET
Him and Kelley do one thing well,which is PK .We get to middle of the pack and we easily shave 15 or so goals of a G/A .Only 15 more,and Ottawa is a middle of the pack defensive team,which combined with a top 10 offense puts us solidly in the playoffs

- top shelf 15


But what about the negative impact they will have playing even strength?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I genuinely think the IQ level is alot lower there than here, so I get to win more arguments. Walshy
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:42 PM ET
Him and Kelley do one thing well,which is PK .We get to middle of the pack and we easily shave 15 or so goals off our G/A .Only 15 more,and Ottawa is a middle of the pack defensive team,which combined with a top 10 offense puts us solidly in the playoffs

- top shelf 15

This has been said by Sens fans for 3 years now.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:44 PM ET
But what about the negative impact they will have playing even strength?
- Tumbleweed
How much time do you think they will play??8 to 10 mins a game at 5 on 5??Again scoring isnt Ottawa,s issue ,its main two problem areas were puck possession,and player quality in the top 4 .Both are related ,and fed into the trainwreck of a defensive season we had .Having the puck more is what the game is all about ,getting back Both Turris and Macarther,two of Ottawa,s better guys at possesion. Along with upgrading from a terrible possession guy in Zibby to a much more solid one in Brassard.Add,s in more ways than just production .

Kelley.Pyatt and in some ways Phanuef ,help us more when we dont have the puck
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
This has been said by Sens fans for 3 years now.
- walshyleafsfan
What has been said ??
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:48 PM ET
Him and Kelley do one thing well,which is PK .We get to middle of the pack and we easily shave 15 or so goals off our G/A .Only 15 more,and Ottawa is a middle of the pack defensive team,which combined with a top 10 offense puts us solidly in the playoffs

- top shelf 15


You are entirely correct. This team has been entirely reshaped around Karlsson. Everything done starting with the Phaneuf deal, bringing in Guy Boucher and trading for Brassard is all about winning behind Karlsson's attacking game. I am more upbeat about this season than I have been for a few years.

I think they need one more burner up front and Duschene would be an outstanding addition.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
What fight,Ottawa did improve .Your the one being delusional if you cant see that
- top shelf 15



Dont let Dopps see that
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:58 PM ET
You are entirely correct. This team has been entirely reshaped around Karlsson. Everything done starting with the Phaneuf deal, bringing in Guy Boucher and trading for Brassard is all about winning behind Karlsson's attacking game. I am more upbeat about this season than I have been for a few years.

I think they need one more burner up front and Duschene would be an outstanding addition.

- spatso
Would love to add one ,but i think we will have to hope on one of the kids making a push .We are getting pretty thin on cap space with some pretty big rises coming over the next few seasons

Joined: 12.31.1969

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