Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: NHL Talk :: WHO is in a better situation: LEAFS or SENS?
Author Message
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 22 @ 5:45 AM ET
So, now that Cowen has taken Leafs to arbitration I was wonderng how that deal was working out for you?
- spatso


Great! We got Mattews. And we even found a more dysfunctional team than us to take Phaneuf. I know eh, I can't believe it either! They even gave us a prospect and a 2nd rounder.

So now that the Sens missed the playoffs, I was wondering how that deal was working out for you?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 22 @ 6:49 AM ET
Great! We got Mattews. And we even found a more dysfunctional team than us to take Phaneuf. I know eh, I can't believe it either! They even gave us a prospect and a 2nd rounder.

So now that the Sens missed the playoffs, I was wondering how that deal was working out for you?

- systemtool


Well as you know, I believe the Leafs got the draft pick bet suited to their own profile. Soon, we can begin to talk about the profiles of this year' rookie prospects and the leading candidates for the Calder.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 22 @ 7:04 AM ET
So, now that Cowen has taken Leafs to arbitration I was wonderng how that deal was working out for you?
- spatso



Hes gone eitherway, so who cares
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 22 @ 8:15 AM ET
Hes gone eitherway, so who cares
- burn



Spatso

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 22 @ 9:37 AM ET
Well as you know, I believe the Leafs got the draft pick bet suited to their own profile. Soon, we can begin to talk about the profiles of this year' rookie prospects and the leading candidates for the Calder.
- spatso


Yup. Needed a center and they got it. And by the majority of scouts, gm , rankings and such accounts, the best player with the highest potential too. Win win. Doesn't matter who wins the Calder. What matters is how their overall careers go and the impacts they have on their team.

For example, Skinner winning the Calder doesn't make him better than Hall or Seguin.

Fun fact. Toews. Crosby. Tavares. Stamkos. None won the calder. Neither did Karlsson
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 22 @ 10:18 AM ET
Does mentioning the fact the Sens were the worst team when it came to goals against make it correct? Or the fact he's 35 and declining line all normal athlet's do at that age make it correct? Got anything that proves it incorrect?
- systemtool



Anderson is a decent goalie. Middle of the pack, even better than that. He's just left out to dry over, and over, and over. And the funny part is, when a certain player is not on the ice, they're among the better teams in the league in terms of giving up goals. When that player is on the ice, they're by far the worst. Every. Single. year.

I'm pretty reluctant to blame Anderson on that.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 22 @ 10:41 AM ET
So, now that Cowen has taken Leafs to arbitration I was wonderng how that deal was working out for you?
- spatso



I'm not really familiar with the ins and outs of what's happening with Jared Cowen. But can't they still buy him out? as planned?

And if he goes to arbitration, can't tehy walk away from a settlement?

To be honest, I was always of the opinion that they shouldn't buy him out, and just let him rot, anyway. If they do that, he's off the books at the end of this year, end of story.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:04 AM ET
I'm not really familiar with the ins and outs of what's happening with Jared Cowen. But can't they still buy him out? as planned?

And if he goes to arbitration, can't tehy walk away from a settlement?

To be honest, I was always of the opinion that they shouldn't buy him out, and just let him rot, anyway. If they do that, he's off the books at the end of this year, end of story.

- prock


He’s taking the buyout to arbitration – says he is injured and can’t be bought out.

I’d prefer the buyout. But if not, it won’t change much; and yeah the upside is no caphit next year.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:12 AM ET
Well as you know, I believe the Leafs got the draft pick bet suited to their own profile. Soon, we can begin to talk about the profiles of this year' rookie prospects and the leading candidates for the Calder.
- spatso


On a scale of 1-10 of stupidity – was it a 9 or 10 out of 10 for you to question why the leafs didn’t sign Mathews earlier in the month?

I profile you as a 10.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:03 PM ET
Anderson is a decent goalie. Middle of the pack, even better than that. He's just left out to dry over, and over, and over. And the funny part is, when a certain player is not on the ice, they're among the better teams in the league in terms of giving up goals. When that player is on the ice, they're by far the worst. Every. Single. year.

I'm pretty reluctant to blame Anderson on that.

- prock


He's an average goalie. Perhaps better than average. In his prime. He's about to turn 35. I'd move on. Or at least get a better back up than Hammond. The blame isn't on Anderson solely but he's part of the problem at this stage in his career
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:19 PM ET
He's an average goalie. Perhaps better than average. In his prime. He's about to turn 35. I'd move on. Or at least get a better back up than Hammond. The blame isn't on Anderson solely but he's part of the problem at this stage in his career
- systemtool



oh, for sure, I wouldn't argue that. If the Sens started building towards a cup today, it would probably be 5 to 7 years before they can contend. He will be retired by then.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
So, now that Cowen has taken Leafs to arbitration I was wonderng how that deal was working out for you?
- spatso

We still have a quote from a Senators prospect saying they never did any skill drills.


So pretty fantastically.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 22 @ 1:33 PM ET
He’s taking the buyout to arbitration – says he is injured and can’t be bought out.

I’d prefer the buyout. But if not, it won’t change much; and yeah the upside is no caphit next year.

- Tumbleweed

honestly, at this point I don;t know if the Leafs even fight it.

Would have been important if they'd signed Stamkos and needed the negative cap hit from the buyout, but now that they've got space next season, may as well absorb the whole cap hit, rather than deffer it.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 22 @ 5:33 PM ET
honestly, at this point I don;t know if the Leafs even fight it.

Would have been important if they'd signed Stamkos and needed the negative cap hit from the buyout, but now that they've got space next season, may as well absorb the whole cap hit, rather than deffer it.

- Feeling Glucky?


Worst case to me with no buyout is we end up with some bonus overage penalties > cowen’s buyout caphit for next year.

I’m not sweating it either way.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
Worst case to me with no buyout is we end up with some bonus overage penalties > cowen’s buyout caphit for next year.

I’m not sweating it either way.

- Tumbleweed


Yup it's not like we're Ottawa and we need to count our pennies to aquire 30 year olds.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tenav for drouin. lol @ canucks
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 22 @ 10:02 PM ET
Yup it's not like we're Ottawa and we need to count our pennies to aquire 30 year olds.
- systemtool


crunk
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
Worst rat's nest in the history of fishing. Tangled with another line just as I was starting my cast. Must have done 30 tangled revolutions. Fishing not good this morning, totally skunked. We caught 10 last time out.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: every day, once a day, give yourself a present, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 23 @ 2:44 PM ET
Worst rat's nest in the history of fishing. Tangled with another line just as I was starting my cast. Must have done 30 tangled revolutions. Fishing not good this morning, totally skunked. We caught 10 last time out.
- spatso

While the fish may not be impressed I'm sure you'll find plenty to take your bait here.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 23 @ 7:39 PM ET
While the fish may not be impressed I'm sure you'll find plenty to take your bait here.
- daeth

...crickets...
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jul 24 @ 8:31 AM ET
He's an average goalie. Perhaps better than average. In his prime. He's about to turn 35. I'd move on. Or at least get a better back up than Hammond. The blame isn't on Anderson solely but he's part of the problem at this stage in his career
- systemtool

He was above average on a below average team that thought they were contenders so they kept. Him over bishop and Lehrer...
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 24 @ 8:36 AM ET
He was above average on a below average team that thought they were contenders so they kept. Him over bishop and Lehrer...
- muffin_man



honestly, at this point, their "retool" type youth movement of the past few years isn't good enough to get them anywhere anyway. With or without Bishop. Eventually, they need to trade off what they can and try again.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:29 PM ET
This thread is still going eh? Pretty obvious answer.
So sad Karlsson's prime is being absolutely wasted.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: most philly media sucks outside Bill and Eskin, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
This thread is still going eh? Pretty obvious answer.
So sad Karlsson's prime is being absolutely wasted.

- RogerRoeper


Same with Kadri
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 6:58 PM ET
This thread is still going eh? Pretty obvious answer.
So sad Karlsson's prime is being absolutely wasted.

- RogerRoeper



Why Roger?

Why not Stanley?

Joined: 12.31.1969

Deleted Post []
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, 232, 233, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 257, 258, 259, 260, 261, 262, 263, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 272, 273, 274, 275, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280, 281, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 288, 289, 290, 291, 292, 293, 294, 295, 296, 297, 298, 299, 300, 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 330, 331, 332, 333, 334, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 340, 341, 342, 343, 344, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 350, 351, 352, 353, 354, 355, 356, 357, 358, 359, 360, 361, 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 367, 368, 369, 370, 371, 372, 373, 374, 375, 376, 377, 378, 379, 380, 381, 382, 383, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 396, 397, 398, 399, 400, 401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 410, 411, 412, 413, 414, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 420, 421, 422, 423, 424, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 430, 431, 432, 433, 434, 435, 436, 437, 438, 439, 440, 441, 442, 443, 444, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449, 450, 451, 452, 453, 454, 455, 456, 457, 458, 459, 460, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 466, 467, 468, 469, 470, 471, 472, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 479, 480, 481, 482, 483, 484, 485, 486, 487, 488, 489, 490, 491, 492, 493, 494, 495, 496, 497, 498, 499, 500, 501, 502, 503, 504, 505, 506, 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512, 513, 514, 515, 516, 517, 518, 519, 520, 521, 522, 523, 524, 525, 526, 527, 528, 529, 530, 531, 532, 533, 534, 535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 542, 543, 544, 545, 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 551, 552, 553, 554, 555, 556, 557, 558, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563, 564, 565, 566, 567, 568, 569, 570, 571, 572, 573, 574, 575, 576, 577, 578, 579, 580, 581, 582, 583, 584, 585, 586, 587, 588, 589, 590, 591, 592, 593, 594, 595, 596, 597, 598, 599, 600, 601, 602, 603, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609, 610, 611, 612, 613, 614, 615, 616, 617, 618, 619, 620, 621, 622, 623, 624, 625, 626, 627, 628, 629, 630, 631, 632, 633, 634, 635, 636, 637, 638, 639, 640, 641, 642, 643, 644, 645, 646, 647, 648, 649, 650, 651, 652, 653, 654, 655, 656, 657, 658, 659, 660, 661, 662, 663, 664, 665, 666, 667, 668, 669, 670, 671, 672, 673, 674, 675, 676, 677, 678, 679, 680, 681, 682, 683, 684, 685, 686, 687, 688, 689, 690, 691, 692, 693, 694, 695, 696, 697, 698, 699, 700, 701, 702, 703, 704, 705, 706, 707, 708, 709, 710, 711, 712, 713, 714, 715, 716, 717, 718, 719, 720, 721, 722, 723, 724, 725, 726, 727, 728, 729, 730, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 736, 737, 738, 739, 740, 741, 742, 743, 744, 745, 746, 747, 748, 749, 750, 751, 752, 753, 754, 755, 756, 757, 758, 759, 760, 761, 762, 763, 764, 765, 766, 767, 768, 769, 770, 771, 772, 773, 774, 775, 776, 777, 778, 779, 780, 781, 782, 783, 784, 785, 786, 787, 788, 789, 790, 791, 792, 793, 794, 795, 796, 797, 798, 799, 800, 801, 802, 803, 804, 805, 806, 807, 808, 809, 810, 811, 812, 813, 814, 815, 816, 817, 818, 819, 820, 821, 822, 823, 824, 825, 826, 827, 828, 829, 830, 831, 832, 833, 834, 835, 836, 837, 838, 839, 840, 841, 842, 843, 844, 845, 846, 847, 848, 849, 850, 851, 852, 853, 854, 855, 856, 857, 858, 859, 860, 861, 862, 863, 864, 865, 866, 867, 868, 869, 870, 871, 872, 873, 874, 875, 876, 877, 878, 879, 880, 881, 882, 883, 884, 885, 886, 887, 888, 889, 890, 891, 892, 893, 894, 895, 896, 897, 898, 899, 900, 901, 902, 903, 904, 905, 906, 907, 908, 909, 910, 911, 912, 913, 914, 915, 916, 917, 918, 919, 920, 921, 922, 923, 924, 925, 926, 927, 928, 929, 930, 931, 932, 933, 934, 935, 936, 937, 938, 939, 940, 941, 942, 943, 944, 945, 946, 947, 948, 949, 950, 951, 952, 953, 954, 955, 956, 957, 958, 959, 960, 961, 962, 963, 964, 965, 966, 967, 968, 969, 970, 971, 972, 973, 974, 975, 976, 977, 978, 979, 980, 981, 982, 983, 984, 985, 986, 987, 988, 989, 990, 991, 992, 993, 994, 995, 996, 997, 998, 999, 1000, 1001, 1002, 1003, 1004, 1005, 1006, 1007, 1008, 1009, 1010, 1011, 1012, 1013, 1014, 1015, 1016, 1017, 1018, 1019, 1020, 1021, 1022, 1023, 1024, 1025, 1026, 1027, 1028, 1029, 1030, 1031, 1032, 1033, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1037, 1038, 1039, 1040, 1041, 1042, 1043, 1044, 1045, 1046, 1047, 1048, 1049, 1050, 1051, 1052, 1053, 1054, 1055, 1056, 1057, 1058, 1059, 1060, 1061, 1062, 1063, 1064, 1065, 1066, 1067, 1068, 1069, 1070, 1071, 1072, 1073, 1074, 1075, 1076, 1077, 1078, 1079, 1080, 1081, 1082, 1083, 1084, 1085, 1086, 1087, 1088, 1089, 1090, 1091, 1092, 1093, 1094, 1095, 1096, 1097, 1098, 1099, 1100, 1101, 1102, 1103, 1104, 1105, 1106, 1107, 1108, 1109, 1110, 1111, 1112, 1113, 1114, 1115, 1116, 1117, 1118, 1119, 1120, 1121, 1122, 1123, 1124, 1125, 1126, 1127, 1128, 1129, 1130, 1131, 1132, 1133, 1134, 1135, 1136, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1140, 1141, 1142, 1143, 1144, 1145, 1146, 1147, 1148, 1149, 1150, 1151, 1152, 1153, 1154, 1155, 1156, 1157, 1158, 1159, 1160  Next