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muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jul 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
Yeah I don't like the trade.
- Pecafan Fan

DATA NERD!!
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 15 @ 3:57 PM ET
DATA NERD!!
- muffin_man



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 15 @ 8:04 PM ET
It is too bad that we did not have more of a chance to talk about this prior to the draft. You know there will be loud howls if Laine jumps off to a big start. Fans will need to be reminded that they support their choice.
- spatso




habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Jul 16 @ 12:38 PM ET

- D0PPELGANGER



D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 17 @ 4:22 PM ET

Ottawa's a good town if you like being close to Montreal. You know what city is better for proximity to Montreal? Montreal.

Cities like Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver- they stand up in their own right. If parliament wasn't in Ottawa, it'd receive less attention then Barrie... and the only reason parliament is there in the first place is because it was a small town that the government at the time knew would be inconspicuous enough to not be attacked by the states.

The town's whole identity is based around being a place nobody would look twice.

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golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
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- D0PPELGANGER


Money sense

Also, did you notice Ottawa has good weather and Vancouver doesn't? That kind of takes the legitimacy of the article away right off the top.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 17 @ 8:41 PM ET
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- D0PPELGANGER

Guess that's why everybody is moving there eh?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m,...you guys are going to look somewhat silly.spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 17 @ 11:37 PM ET
Money sense

Also, did you notice Ottawa has good weather and Vancouver doesn't? That kind of takes the legitimacy of the article away right off the top.

- golfingsince

habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Jul 18 @ 3:07 AM ET
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Seriously dude? Could you get even a tiny fragment more pathetic? Seems impossible to me. But I am sure you can surprise me!
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 18 @ 9:45 AM ET
Money sense

Also, did you notice Ottawa has good weather and Vancouver doesn't? That kind of takes the legitimacy of the article away right off the top.

- golfingsince



Weather is subjective ............ Sure Vancouver does not get the Snow and cold temps that Ottawa does......... but they don't have anything like skating on the Rideau canal either. They get a LOT of rain, while Ottawa does not ........... but Ottawa has humidity that Vancouver would not want.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 18 @ 9:49 AM ET
Guess that's why everybody is moving there eh?
- Feeling Glucky?


Well many people are......... they're building new houses allover the place, because people cannot aboard the prices being asked in toronto and Vancouver.

Canadian Cities Average House Prices June 2015

Vancouver, BC $922,000 + 16 %
Toronto, Ont $639,000 + 12 %
Calgary, Alb $466,000 – 0.2 %
Ottawa, Ont $383,000 + 5.0 %

Bet you don't own the roof over your head, and the prospects of doing so for the foreseeable future is pretty grim.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:00 AM ET
Well many people are......... they're building new houses allover the place, because people cannot aboard the prices being asked in toronto and Vancouver.

Canadian Cities Average House Prices June 2015

Vancouver, BC $922,000 + 16 %
Toronto, Ont $639,000 + 12 %
Calgary, Alb $466,000 – 0.2 %
Ottawa, Ont $383,000 + 5.0 %

Bet you don't own the roof over your head, and the prospects of doing so for the foreseeable future is pretty grim.

- D0PPELGANGER

I don't own, but the prospects of doing so within the next year are actually pretty good.


Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand?
AGalchenyuk27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
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Jul 18 @ 10:55 AM ET
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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 18 @ 1:58 PM ET
I don't own, but the prospects of doing so within the next year are actually pretty good.


Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand?

- Feeling Glucky?



House, condo ?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m,...you guys are going to look somewhat silly.spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:01 PM ET
I find it funny when teams trade young cheap players that are getting better for expensive 28 year-old veterans coming off career seasons.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i consider the complexity of the dungeons part of the difficulty, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
LOL!




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senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:11 PM ET
I find it funny when teams trade young cheap players that are getting better for expensive 28 year-old veterans coming off career seasons.
- Tumbleweed


Only other thing is MZ will need a new contract next season and could be around the same if he takes another step forward

But i dont get this move for the Sens.. I mean I kinda do listening to the Sens sports talk, but its more of a win now type move that may not move the needle much at all...for a player much older and swap of downgrading a pick
AGalchenyuk27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:14 PM ET
Sens just got dopplegangbanged in the ass
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If they sign Shattenkirk at 8 years for $65m,...you guys are going to look somewhat silly.spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:14 PM ET
Only other thing is MZ will need a new contract next season and could be around the same if he takes another step forward

But i dont get this move for the Sens.. I mean I kinda do listening to the Sens sports talk, but its more of a win now type move that may not move the needle much at all...for a player much older and swap of downgrading a pick

- senstroll


Clearly another desperation move to save a few bucks. I don't get the 2nd either ... very benning esque.

Rangers win this trade.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes
Senators have had three top-10 picks since 2005. All of them have now been traded away:

Brian Lee
Jared Cowen
Mika Zibanejad


The 6th Sens ‏@6thSens
Brassard turns 29 in September.


The 6th Sens ‏@6thSens
Brassard has cracked 45+ points three times.

Zibanejad twice.

Zibanejad's almost six years younger and Sens gave up a 2nd to make deal.


The 6th Sens ‏@6thSens
Zibanejad has two 20+ goal seasons in his career. Brassard has one.


The 6th Sens ‏@6thSens
Maybe the Sens are better in the interim for making the deal, but it's totally conceivable that Mika makes this trade look awful next year



daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: every day, once a day, give yourself a present, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 2:57 PM ET
Ok that's a pretty funny trade. Ottawa back to being stupid I guess.

It fits the cheap owner narrative perfectly too. lol
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 18 @ 3:04 PM ET
Ottawa gets older and not much if at all better and adds a 2nd?


daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: every day, once a day, give yourself a present, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 3:06 PM ET
Ottawa gets older and not much if at all better and adds a 2nd?



- burn

$5M cap hit while only paying out $3M though.

Perfect for the Sens.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GMTM on Eichel: "He certainly won't get his pee pee slapped by me for being a little more outspoken., ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 18 @ 3:08 PM ET
Ok that's a pretty funny trade. Ottawa back to being stupid I guess.

It fits the cheap owner narrative perfectly too. lol

- daeth



Brassard set to make $10 over next 3 yrs = 3.33mil is actual salary.

MZ likely gonna make more than that on next deal.


This looks nothing more than the sens trading a guy to save money.

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