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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 11 @ 8:21 PM ET
He's showing how easy it is to make an argument if you just ignore massive amounts of data, and just cherry pick the facts that suit your needs.


In reality, the Leafs have a comparable, if not superior pool of talent from late in the draft.

But reality is biased against everything Dopps believes in.

- Feeling Glucky?


I would be interested in those names, do any come to mind?

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 11 @ 8:55 PM ET
I would be interested in those names, do any come to mind?
- D0PPELGANGER


Your mom.

Looks dropped her down to the later rounds.

Her willingness to get on her knees and into the dirty areas made her a valuable player for years.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

May 11 @ 10:38 PM ET
Your mom.

Looks dropped her down to the later rounds.

Her willingness to get on her knees and into the dirty areas made her a valuable player for years.

- Tumbleweed

he got under your skin and you replied like a child
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: everyday i see my dream
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 11 @ 11:06 PM ET
he got under your skin and you replied like a child
- Pie


Oh
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

May 12 @ 7:31 AM ET
I would be interested in those names, do any come to mind?
- D0PPELGANGER



Kaberle

Off the top of my head.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

May 12 @ 8:10 AM ET
Oh
- Tumbleweed

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 12 @ 9:56 AM ET
Sens fans celebrating Chris Neil

meanwhile...leafs Prospect..Mitch Marner wins Wayne Gretzky Award for ‘Most Valuable Player’ in OHL Playoffs.


Jeff Veillette ‏@JeffVeillette
Mitch Marner's 2.44 PTS/GP is one of the highest scoring rates in an OHL playoff run, ever. http://theleafsnation.com...-marner-named-playoff-mvp

The Leafs Nation ‏@TLNdc
List of OHLers who have won season and playoff MVP in the same season within a year of draft eligibility: Connor McDavid, Mitch Marner.


D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 13 @ 8:25 AM ET
He's showing how easy it is to make an argument if you just ignore massive amounts of data, and just cherry pick the facts that suit your needs.


In reality, the Leafs have a comparable, if not superior pool of talent from late in the draft.

But reality is biased against everything Dopps believes in.

- Feeling Glucky?

I would be interested in those names, do any come to mind?
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 13 @ 8:26 AM ET
not the WHO was previously in a better situation thread
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 12 grands is NOTHING in the art market.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 13 @ 8:27 AM ET
I hate to say it, but any rational person would be hard pressed not to recognize that the Leafs are in a better situation
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 13 @ 9:34 AM ET
I hate to say it, but any rational person would be hard pressed not to recognize that the Leafs are in a better situation
- Crimsoninja



If i told you the Sens drafted Chris Neil 161st overall.. does that sway you at all?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 13 @ 12:41 PM ET
If i told you the Sens drafted Chris Neil 161st overall.. does that sway you at all?
- senstroll



sad that you have to take things out of context, to mock others, when you can't address the point of the original post.

But when you can't point to the standings, making the playoffs, advancing to the finals, winning a Presidents trophy .............. or pretty much anything on the ice ............ I guess you have to grasp at straws eh?

leafs have failed terribly at drafting, whether in the first round, but most notably in later rounds, where the Senators have been stronger than most teams.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 12 grands is NOTHING in the art market.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 13 @ 12:43 PM ET
If i told you the Sens drafted Chris Neil 161st overall.. does that sway you at all?
- senstroll

senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 13 @ 12:51 PM ET
sad that you have to take things out of context, to mock others, when you can't address the point of the original post.

But when you can't point to the standings, making the playoffs, advancing to the finals, winning a Presidents trophy .............. or pretty much anything on the ice ............ I guess you have to grasp at straws eh?

leafs have failed terribly at drafting, whether in the first round, but most notably in later rounds, where the Senators have been stronger than most teams.

- D0PPELGANGER


the pendulum has swung so far in the Leafs favour now there is nothing left to do but that.

I mean JFC you posted a picture of the Sens banners from the 1920's as proof of something.. .I mean the (frank)ing 20's??!!

I feel I went easy on you
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

May 13 @ 5:30 PM ET
sad that you have to take things out of context, to mock others, when you can't address the point of the original post.

But when you can't point to the standings, making the playoffs, advancing to the finals, winning a Presidents trophy .............. or pretty much anything on the ice ............ I guess you have to grasp at straws eh?

leafs have failed terribly at drafting, whether in the first round, but most notably in later rounds, where the Senators have been stronger than most teams.

- D0PPELGANGER


The problem is this all in the past. Should I brag the Leafs have the 2nd most Stanley cups as a rebuttal?

The Leafs are in a better situation. It's okay to admit what we all already know.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 13 @ 11:24 PM ET
I would be interested in those names, do any come to mind?
- D0PPELGANGER

Yup
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 13 @ 11:36 PM ET
Yup
- Feeling Glucky?



Did not think you could produce them. Your inability to list late round picks only goes to show how much better the Sens have been over the years at drafting players, in the later rounds, that go on to play in the NHL .................. while the leafs, not so much.

Daniel Alfredsson 133rd overall
Chris Neil 161st overall
Mike Fisher 44th overall
Chris Kelly 94th overall
Brian Elliott 291st overall
Zack Smith 79th overall
Mike Hoffman 130th overall
Mark Stone 178th overall
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 14 @ 7:51 AM ET
Did not think you could produce them. Your inability to list late round picks only goes to show how much better the Sens have been over the years at drafting players, in the later rounds, that go on to play in the NHL .................. while the leafs, not so much.

Daniel Alfredsson 133rd overall
Chris Neil 161st overall
Mike Fisher 44th overall
Chris Kelly 94th overall
Brian Elliott 291st overall
Zack Smith 79th overall
Mike Hoffman 130th overall
Mark Stone 178th overall

- D0PPELGANGER

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 14 @ 9:05 AM ET
leafs Prospect..Mitch Marner wins Wayne Gretzky Award for ‘Most Valuable Player’ in OHL Playoffs.
- senstroll


Francis Perron of the Rouyn-Noranda Huskies, drafted 190th overall by the Ottawa Senators in 2014, wins the Guy Lafleur Trophy as the QMJHL President Cup playoffs MVP.

Again, further proof that Ottawa has been much more successful, than the leafs, when drafting in the later rounds.

Perron, was also named the league’s regular season MVP, becoming the first player since Jonathan Drouin of the Halifax Mooseheads to win both awards.



muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 14 @ 9:08 AM ET
Francis Perron of the Rouyn-Noranda Huskies, drafted 190th overall by the Ottawa Senators in 2014, wins the Guy Lafleur Trophy as the QMJHL President Cup playoffs MVP.

Perron, was also named the league’s regular season MVP, becoming the first player since Jonathan Drouin of the Halifax Mooseheads to win both awards.




- D0PPELGANGER

So since last year? 2 years ago?
Also let me guess, 20 year old?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 14 @ 9:09 AM ET
So since last year? 2 years ago?
- muffin_man

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 14 @ 9:16 AM ET
Did not think you could produce them. Your inability to list late round picks only goes to show how much better the Sens have been over the years at drafting players, in the later rounds, that go on to play in the NHL .................. while the leafs, not so much.

Daniel Alfredsson 133rd overall
Chris Neil 161st overall
Mike Fisher 44th overall
Chris Kelly 94th overall
Brian Elliott 291st overall
Zack Smith 79th overall
Mike Hoffman 130th overall
Mark Stone 178th overall

- D0PPELGANGER

Kaberle
Ponikarovski
Komarov
Stralman
Gunnarson
Reimer
Stalberg
Markov


That's off the top of my head, and without having to go as high as the second round to include a 3rd liner to help prove my point.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 14 @ 9:17 AM ET
So since last year? 2 years ago?
Also let me guess, 20 year old?

- muffin_man



Jealousy has a way of making people like Dopps seem even dumber.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 14 @ 9:20 AM ET
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

May 14 @ 10:40 AM ET
Did not think you could produce them. Your inability to list late round picks only goes to show how much better the Sens have been over the years at drafting players, in the later rounds, that go on to play in the NHL .................. while the leafs, not so much.

Daniel Alfredsson 133rd overall
Chris Neil 161st overall
Mike Fisher 44th overall
Chris Kelly 94th overall
Brian Elliott 291st overall
Zack Smith 79th overall
Mike Hoffman 130th overall
Mark Stone 178th overall

- D0PPELGANGER





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