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daeth
Nashville Predators
Location: shambles, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 3 @ 8:36 PM ET
weird, when i check the senators wikipedia page it says they have 0 cups.
AGalchenyuk27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 3 @ 8:36 PM ET
weird, when i check the senators wikipedia page it says they have 0 cups.
- daeth

check doppsipedia.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 3 @ 8:40 PM ET
weird, when i check the senators wikipedia page it says they have 0 cups.
- daeth



Canadian tire centre rafters > Wikipedia
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 3 @ 9:56 PM ET
1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1909, 1910, 1911, 1920, 1921, 1923, 1927
- D0PPELGANGER

Yes, but not the current senators. And was that even NHL era?


Which one is the one they awarded themselves?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 3 @ 10:01 PM ET
Agreed. Way too many teams competing for them.

They're not legit like when there were only 6 teams.

- golfingsince

I love it when trolls show they don't know hockey.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 3 @ 10:03 PM ET
Different names, even you should have figured that out.


- D0PPELGANGER

Hmmm

The Team/Franchise represented Ottawa, that's all that matters.

The Senators re-joined the NHL, and the history comes along with them ............ whether you like it or not. The Banners hang in the rafters at the CTC.

- D0PPELGANGER

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

May 4 @ 9:45 PM ET
All Sens fans can do is talk about the past. We have the future. Now I hear you want to hire Randy Carlyle...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 4 @ 9:54 PM ET
All Sens fans can do is talk about the past. We have the future. Now I hear you want to hire Randy Carlyle...
- RogerRoeper


I think he's banking on global warming destroying Toronto before you reap the benefits of this rebuild
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

May 4 @ 10:38 PM ET
I think he's banking on global warming destroying Toronto before you reap the benefits of this rebuild
- PhillySportsGuy

RogerRoeper doesn't need you to explain this poop
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 5 @ 8:27 AM ET
even if we allowed them to include cups from the totally unrelated old ottawa team we couldn't include like 6 of those cups since they were won before the NHL even existed. the first nhl season was in 1917.
- daeth


A Stanley Cup Win is a Stanley Cup win. The NHL did not "legitimize" the Stanley Cup.

If a City's team has their name engraved on the Cup, it's a "Stanley Cup winner".

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 5 @ 8:30 AM ET
Agreed. Way too many teams competing for them.

They're not legit like when there were only 6 teams.

- golfingsince


And when teams had enforced territoriality rights from which to Draft players from ......... was so fair back then eh?

Fewer playoff rounds back in the "original six " era .............. way too easy to win the Cup these day.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 5 @ 8:39 AM ET
I think he's banking on global warming destroying Toronto before you reap the benefits of this rebuild
- PhillySportsGuy


This "rebuild" will turn out quite similar to Edmonton's rebuild, if they continue to rely to much on analytics to evaluate prospects, as the Oilers did.

Let's see what happens in Arizona, now that they're handing the GM position to their 26 year old analytics guy.

Start listening at the 13:50 minute mark
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/o...aying-their-game-1.483932
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 5 @ 8:51 AM ET
This "rebuild" will turn out quite similar to Edmonton's rebuild, if they continue to rely to much on analytics to evaluate prospects, as the Oilers did.

Let's see what happens in Arizona, now that they're handing the GM position to their 26 year old analytics guy.

Start listening at the 13:50 minute mark
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/o...aying-their-game-1.483932

- D0PPELGANGER


Barking up the wrong A_Tree, bud
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 5 @ 8:51 AM ET
This "rebuild" will turn out quite similar to Edmonton's rebuild, if they continue to rely to much on analytics to evaluate prospects, as the Oilers did.

Let's see what happens in Arizona, now that they're handing the GM position to their 26 year old analytics guy.

Start listening at the 13:50 minute mark
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/o...aying-their-game-1.483932

- D0PPELGANGER



What the? oil didn't rely on analytics. Their issue was the rushing of their picks with no support.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 5 @ 8:52 AM ET
A Stanley Cup Win is a Stanley Cup win. The NHL did not "legitimize" the Stanley Cup.

If a City's team has their name engraved on the Cup, it's a "Stanley Cup winner".

- D0PPELGANGER



OTtawa only team celebrating other franchise wins.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 5 @ 9:37 AM ET
This "rebuild" will turn out quite similar to Edmonton's rebuild, if they continue to rely to much on analytics to evaluate prospects, as the Oilers did.

Let's see what happens in Arizona, now that they're handing the GM position to their 26 year old analytics guy.

Start listening at the 13:50 minute mark
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/o...aying-their-game-1.483932

- D0PPELGANGER



where the (frank) did you get that info on the Oilers? I have not heard of them doing that?

John Chayka will be interesting to watch.. he started stathletes ..but his methodologies and how he uses stats is unknown.. he didnt go the route most of the Analytics hires have... his work is not out in the public ..wasnt peer reviewed etc..

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If you dish it out, you should be able to take it. - D0PPELGANGER
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 5 @ 12:14 PM ET
1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1909, 1910, 1911, 1920, 1921, 1923, 1927
- D0PPELGANGER

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

May 5 @ 5:21 PM ET
And when teams had enforced territoriality rights from which to Draft players from ......... was so fair back then eh?

Fewer playoff rounds back in the "original six " era .............. way too easy to win the Cup these day.

- D0PPELGANGER

So much easier than when teams could literally award themselves the cup
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Xizord : I am Eklund
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 5 @ 6:00 PM ET
This "rebuild" will turn out quite similar to Edmonton's rebuild, if they continue to rely to much on analytics to evaluate prospects, as the Oilers did.

Let's see what happens in Arizona, now that they're handing the GM position to their 26 year old analytics guy.

Start listening at the 13:50 minute mark
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/o...aying-their-game-1.483932

- D0PPELGANGER


Sens should hire mcguire to coach the team
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 5 @ 8:19 PM ET
This "rebuild" will turn out quite similar to Edmonton's rebuild, if they continue to rely to much on analytics to evaluate prospects, as the Oilers did.

Let's see what happens in Arizona, now that they're handing the GM position to their 26 year old analytics guy.

Start listening at the 13:50 minute mark
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/o...aying-their-game-1.483932

- D0PPELGANGER

We've been over this, the French Canadian drafting rights thing yielded only 2 inhalers, the better of whom was Rejean Houle so not exactly dynasty building.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 5 @ 8:22 PM ET
where the (frank) did you get that info on the Oilers? I have not heard of them doing that?

John Chayka will be interesting to watch.. he started stathletes ..but his methodologies and how he uses stats is unknown.. he didnt go the route most of the Analytics hires have... his work is not out in the public ..wasnt peer reviewed etc..

- senstroll

I'm curious to see how agents and other gms treat him. Knowing stats to evaluate players is one thing, being able to negotiate is something else
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 6 @ 8:26 AM ET
Sens should hire mcguire to coach the team
- Tumbleweed


Dops would love Pierre "Stats are fools gold" McGuire
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 6 @ 8:46 AM ET
I'm curious to see how agents and other gms treat him. Knowing stats to evaluate players is one thing, being able to negotiate is something else
- muffin_man


As shown by Marc Bergevin.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

May 6 @ 8:48 AM ET
Dops would love Pierre "Stats are fools gold" McGuire
- senstroll

If my memory serves me, I think he worked as a pro scout and assistant coach for the Senators in the mid 90's.

Know he's been interviewed a few times in the past couple of years for a few open GM positions...............
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 6 @ 9:28 AM ET
If my memory serves me, I think he worked as a pro scout and assistant coach for the Senators in the mid 90's.

Know he's been interviewed a few times in the past couple of years for a few open GM positions...............

- D0PPELGANGER



We can dream he ends up in charge of a team again


http://theleafsnation.com...-pierre-mcguire-s-opinion

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