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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 16 @ 6:32 AM ET
When Binghamton had a great team Sens fans could not shut-up about it
- RogerRoeper



They did win the Calder Cup, so I guess we should have not mentioned it.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 16 @ 7:22 AM ET
They did win the Calder Cup, so I guess we should have not mentioned it.
- D0PPELGANGER



Can't or won't answer the question?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
Can't or won't answer the question?
- burn


What question?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
What question?
- D0PPELGANGER




There is no answer to such a Moronic question.


Why'd you change from 4pts back with 2 games in hand to tied with 2 games in hand?

- burn

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 16 @ 3:17 PM ET
[quote=burn]

Both scenarios can occur, and are magnified the closer you get tot he end of the season.

Last season the Sens (92) trailed the Bruins (95) on April the 4th.

The Sens had a game in hand on them, and managed to pass the Bruins in part because they had four games/chances to gain points while the Bruins only had three.

IF the schedule had both teams sitting with an equal number of games remaining (four) perhaps things would have not turned out the way they did.

Having one more game to play than the team you're chasing, in the last week of the season, before the end of the schedule, improves your teams' odds of tying or passing them.

golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jan 16 @ 7:05 PM ET
Both scenarios can occur, and are magnified the closer you get tot he end of the season.

Last season the Sens (92) trailed the Bruins (95) on April the 4th.

The Sens had a game in hand on them, and managed to pass the Bruins in part because they had four games/chances to gain points while the Bruins only had three.

IF the schedule had both teams sitting with an equal number of games remaining (four) perhaps things would have not turned out the way they did.

Having one more game to play than the team you're chasing, in the last week of the season, before the end of the schedule, improves your teams' odds of tying or passing them.

- D0PPELGANGER

Ottawa made the playoffs because they got 4 points in their last 2 games while Boston got 1. It's that simple.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jan 17 @ 9:53 AM ET
Ottawa made the playoffs because they got 4 points in their last 2 games while Boston got 1. It's that simple.
- golfingsince



It's also about how the schedule unfolds at the end of the season my friend.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:38 PM ET
It's also about how the schedule unfolds at the end of the season my friend.
- D0PPELGANGER

So the team with a game in hand is in better position than the team 3 points up. Gotcha!

I await your post ignoring my point and simply pointing out who made the playoffs
senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:31 AM ET
top 10 NHL prospect pools in the Winter edition of the 2015-16 NHL Team Rankings

http://www.hockeysfuture....antic-division-influence/

10. Anaheim Ducks (3)
9. Detroit Red Wings (4)
8. New York Islanders (2)
7. Edmonton Oilers
6. Tampa Bay Lightning (7)
5. Boston Bruins (21)
4. Toronto Maple Leafs (20)
3. Buffalo Sabres (6)
2. Winnipeg Jets (1)
1. Arizona Coyotes (5)



Strengths: It’s almost surreal to see the Toronto Maple Leafs with not one, but two elite prospects. Yet that is what Toronto has in both William Nylander and Mitch Marner. Both players were drafted as centers, but it is unlikely they both play the position with the Maple Leafs. The players highlight an emphasis on skill above all else, as do the majority of the 2015 draft picks. Frederik Gauthier, a pick from the previous regime, is acclimating himself better than expected in his first AHL season and could become the ideal bottom-six center for the Maple Leafs.

Weaknesses: Goaltending. Both Antoine Bibeau and Garret Sparks, the organization’s only two goaltending prospects, have already worn the Maple Leafs jersey, but not because they were ready. During that time, Sparks proved he could carve out a NHL career, but his weaknesses are noticeable—his timing and ability to track the puck leave a lot to be desired. Bibeau, meanwhile, is having a down year after a strong rookie season in the AHL. The Maple Leafs will almost certainly select at least one goaltender in the 2016 NHL Draft.

Top 5 Prospects: 1. Mitch Marner, C; 2. William Nylander, C; 3. Kasperi Kapanen, RW; 4. Scott Harrington, D; 5. Connor Brown, RW
Key Additions: Mitch Marner (Draft), Kasperi Kapanen (Trade – PIT), Scott Harrington (Trade – PIT), Travis Dermott (Draft), Jeremy Bracco (Draft), Zach Hyman (Trade – FLA), Nikita Shoshnikov (Free agent)
Key Losses: Carter Verhaeghe (Trade – NYI), Matt Finn (Trade – NYI)
senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
Its also worth noting that the 3 teams ahead of the leafs have multiple players already in the NHL. All of the leafs prospects are still in the minors
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 18 @ 10:24 PM ET
top 10 NHL prospect pools in the Winter edition of the 2015-16 NHL Team Rankings

http://www.hockeysfuture....antic-division-influence/

10. Anaheim Ducks (3)
9. Detroit Red Wings (4)
8. New York Islanders (2)
7. Edmonton Oilers
6. Tampa Bay Lightning (7)
5. Boston Bruins (21)
4. Toronto Maple Leafs (20)
3. Buffalo Sabres (6)
2. Winnipeg Jets (1)
1. Arizona Coyotes (5)



Strengths: It’s almost surreal to see the Toronto Maple Leafs with not one, but two elite prospects. Yet that is what Toronto has in both William Nylander and Mitch Marner. Both players were drafted as centers, but it is unlikely they both play the position with the Maple Leafs. The players highlight an emphasis on skill above all else, as do the majority of the 2015 draft picks. Frederik Gauthier, a pick from the previous regime, is acclimating himself better than expected in his first AHL season and could become the ideal bottom-six center for the Maple Leafs.

Weaknesses: Goaltending. Both Antoine Bibeau and Garret Sparks, the organization’s only two goaltending prospects, have already worn the Maple Leafs jersey, but not because they were ready. During that time, Sparks proved he could carve out a NHL career, but his weaknesses are noticeable—his timing and ability to track the puck leave a lot to be desired. Bibeau, meanwhile, is having a down year after a strong rookie season in the AHL. The Maple Leafs will almost certainly select at least one goaltender in the 2016 NHL Draft.

Top 5 Prospects: 1. Mitch Marner, C; 2. William Nylander, C; 3. Kasperi Kapanen, RW; 4. Scott Harrington, D; 5. Connor Brown, RW
Key Additions: Mitch Marner (Draft), Kasperi Kapanen (Trade – PIT), Scott Harrington (Trade – PIT), Travis Dermott (Draft), Jeremy Bracco (Draft), Zach Hyman (Trade – FLA), Nikita Shoshnikov (Free agent)
Key Losses: Carter Verhaeghe (Trade – NYI), Matt Finn (Trade – NYI)

- senstroll

By next year when they add a top 5pick along with all the other pics they have(Hopefully Pittburgh makes it) they will be consensus #1.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
HABS
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 19 @ 10:52 AM ET
By next year when they add a top 5pick along with all the other pics they have(Hopefully Pittburgh makes it) they will be consensus #1.
- RogerRoeper

If any of the teams ahead of them on that list win the lottery the Leafs will at best be #2 on that list next season. It's all meaningless but that's basically how it works.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 19 @ 11:28 AM ET
HABS
- daeth


MATTHEWS!!!!
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 21 @ 12:16 AM ET
If any of the teams ahead of them on that list win the lottery the Leafs will at best be #2 on that list next season. It's all meaningless but that's basically how it works.
- daeth


All those teams have players who will not be counted as prospects anymore.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 21 @ 7:52 AM ET
All those teams have players who will not be counted as prospects anymore.
- RogerRoeper

Yeah but that website consistently overrates whatever team gets the first pick.

Or at least that what it seems like.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 21 @ 8:35 AM ET
MATTHEWS!!!!
- Pecafan Fan

I haven't been paying attention lately... but why the (frank) did montreal trade Tinordi for Scott?


Even if you don't think Tinordi is much better than a Schenn/Cowen type player... that's still awful value.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 21 @ 8:45 AM ET
I haven't been paying attention lately... but why the (frank) did montreal trade Tinordi for Scott?


Even if you don't think Tinordi is much better than a Schenn/Cowen type player... that's still awful value.

- Feeling Glucky?


Tinordi is nothing more than Ryan O'byrne.

Also, Scott was a throw in. They got Victor Bartley in that trade.

But yeah, all in all, it,S a pretty underwhelming move, even if Tinordi proves to me a massive bust.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 21 @ 9:42 AM ET
Tinordi is nothing more than Ryan O'byrne.

Also, Scott was a throw in. They got Victor Bartley in that trade.

But yeah, all in all, it,S a pretty underwhelming move, even if Tinordi proves to me a massive bust.

- Pecafan Fan

really hard to tell which one is the throw-in between the two.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 21 @ 9:46 AM ET
really hard to tell which one is the throw-in between the two.
- Feeling Glucky?

one is an all-star..
senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 21 @ 12:30 PM ET
Leafs Better

http://www.thestar.com/sp...-are-leading-the-ahl.html

Marlies were down 4-2 and came back to win on a nice OT goal by Leipsic

top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jan 21 @ 1:52 PM ET
Leafs Better

http://www.thestar.com/sp...-are-leading-the-ahl.html

Marlies were down 4-2 and came back to win on a nice OT goal by Leipsic

- senstroll
Wouldnt that make the Marlies better??
senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 21 @ 2:30 PM ET
Wouldnt that make the Marlies better??

- top shelf 15


yes the marlies are better than the sens

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 21 @ 2:30 PM ET
Wouldnt that make the Marlies better??

- top shelf 15

According to Dopps, it's proof positive the leafs are in a better position. Unless of course the logic has changed, now that it doesn't support his side.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 21 @ 2:33 PM ET
yes the marlies are better than the sens
- senstroll

I'd be tempted to take the Marlies' roster over the Leafs', if not for Rielly.
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