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senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 14 @ 12:48 PM ET
You make it sound as if we are done rebuilding, or developing our youth.Our team is littered with 20 year old first and second year players ,you seem to think that what a player does in the lower leagues automatically ensures the exact type of production at a higher level . Iam sure some of your kids will struggle with making the jump ,and have a hard time being consistant .But iam sure i wont be here belittling your team
- top shelf 15


ok..what year of the rebuild are you in now?
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Dec 14 @ 12:55 PM ET
ok..what year of the rebuild are you in now?
- senstroll
There is no time limit on a rebuild ,and there are 29 other teams that technically retool or rebuild every season .With the cap, you cant buy or force your way into being a winning team.But you can try to bring your youth along and try to instill a winning foundation .Which Ottawa has done for the most part ,making the playoffs with very young teams 3 of the last 4 seasons .Are they a finished product ??no can they still grow yes
senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 14 @ 12:59 PM ET
There is no time limit on a rebuild ,and there are 29 other teams that technically retool or rebuild every season .With the cap, you cant buy or force your way into being a winning team.But you can try to bring your youth along and try to instill a winning foundation .Which Ottawa has done for the most part ,making the playoffs with very young teams 3 of the last 4 seasons .Are they a finished product ??no can they still grow yes
- top shelf 15



Ok..well maybe get together with your fellow Sens fan Dopps and hash it out .. I was commenting based on his comment

Ottawa went thought it's re-build a number of years ago, and the leafs just started theirs
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Dec 14 @ 1:01 PM ET
Ok..well maybe get together with your fellow Sens fan Dopps and hash it out .. I was commenting based on his comment
- senstroll
Meh Dopps is dopps i cant speak for him ,i love what the leafs have done TBH .No more excuses and look to be serious about grinding it out and developing a winning team
senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
Meh Dopps is dopps i cant speak for him ,i love what the leafs have done TBH .No more excuses and look to be serious about grinding it out and developing a winning team
- top shelf 15


Leafs in a better situation ^^^
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Dec 14 @ 1:10 PM ET
Leafs in a better situation ^^^
- senstroll
Than they were when blowhard was there ??yes .Better than my team ??not too sure .Need to see what their kids are like first
senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 14 @ 1:24 PM ET
Than they were when blowhard was there ??yes .Better than my team ??not too sure .Need to see what their kids are like first
- top shelf 15



who are the sens young players on the roster that are the impact players..or potential ones?

these are the players 22 and under I can see

Zibanejad 22
ceci 21
Lazar 20
Puempel 22

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 14 @ 1:29 PM ET
I dont see him as a mess.
feels a lot like the leafs and their best players...get poop on for not being everything all the time when the team is not doing so well.

He is just so much better than everyone else.

- senstroll

A mess > Karlsson
senstroll
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 14 @ 1:32 PM ET
A mess > Karlsson
- Cape Breton Bruins



27 shots in 1 period is mighty impressive.. even the horrid Leafs with Carlyle didnt accomplish that.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Dec 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
who are the sens young players on the roster that are the impact players..or potential ones?

these are the players 22 and under I can see

Zibanejad 22
ceci 21
Lazar 20
Puempel 22

- senstroll
And who would be the leafs options to be world class players ,at the nhl level ??Easy to play this game,also didnt realise players stop being able to grow after 22 years old
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the arena with no parking
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
World's best coach
- RogerRoeper

jesus christ
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
jesus christ
- Crimsoninja


This time last year Babcock was the consensus top coach. What changed?

If a Detroit fan said this last season, would your reaction have been the same?

Phil Kessel, despite production being down with better players seems to not be getting any criticism like the last 6 years. What has changed?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 14 @ 2:07 PM ET
did you miss the part where I mentioned Henrik Lundqvist?
- D0PPELGANGER

You failed to answer my question.

Are statkeepers at home running up the visitor's shot totals, making the whole team look bad, to make sure the goalie looked good?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the arena with no parking
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
This time last year Babcock was the consensus top coach. What changed?

If a Detroit fan said this last season, would your reaction have been the same?

Phil Kessel, despite production being down with better players seems to not be getting any criticism like the last 6 years. What has changed?

- RogerRoeper

calm down with your leafs fan victim martyrdom

I've always thought Babcock was an overrated egomaniac, nothing to do with him being with the Leafs now

And to routinely call someone "best coach in the world" is just absurd, imo. I don't care who it is. A statement like that is ridiculous and impossible to quantify.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:14 PM ET
calm down with your leafs fan victim martyrdom

I've always thought Babcock was an overrated egomaniac, nothing to do with him being with the Leafs now

And to routinely call someone "best coach in the world" is just absurd, imo. I don't care who it is. A statement like that is ridiculous and impossible to quantify.

- Crimsoninja


You know very well Babcock was considered the best coach prior to coming to Toronto.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the arena with no parking
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:21 PM ET
You know very well Babcock was considered the best coach prior to coming to Toronto.
- RogerRoeper

call him one of the best coaches or a top coach or whatever

but to continually preface his name with "Best Coach in the World Mike Babcock" like it was some freaking lifetime achievement award he won is pathetic


one Cup, one finals and squeezed some early round exits out of a few of his detroit teams. Good sure, but anyone saying he (or any coach) is the definitive "Best in the World" just sounds like a moron
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:22 PM ET
By looking at the standings, I'm starting to think the Leafs will need an even BETTER coach than the best coach in the world.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
By looking at the standings, I'm starting to think the Leafs will need an even BETTER coach than the best coach in the world.
- Pecafan Fan

Look deeper.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:46 PM ET
Look deeper.
- Cape Breton Bruins


*looks deeper*
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the arena with no parking
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:48 PM ET
*looks deeper*
- Pecafan Fan

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
*looks deeper*
- Pecafan Fan

Deeper
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
LEAFS
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:56 PM ET
*hits bottom*
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 14 @ 2:58 PM ET
*hits bottom*
- Pecafan Fan

Welcome.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 14 @ 2:58 PM ET
Deeper
- Cape Breton Bruins

for some reason this convo reminds me of the song stinkfist from tool
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