Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: NHL Talk :: WHO is in a better situation: LEAFS or SENS?
Author Message
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:06 PM ET
Well if they watch the tape of Calgary / Vancouver then they'll target someone else.
- golfingsince


regardless of your feelings towards the player- the argument still stands.

Leafs cleared contract spots so they could acquire some guys they felt might get them picks.

Different situation than giving away a pick/prospect to clear money.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
Well if they watch the tape of Calgary / Vancouver then they'll target someone else.
- golfingsince



He's not nearly as physical/gritty as I had figured/hoped he would be.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
SO funny.

EVERYTHING the leaf do is perfect ............ But Ottawa can't do anything right.


Oh, excepts make the playoffs on a regular basis over the past 10 seasons.

- D0PPELGANGER

Ottawa can do stuff right.

But their owner is too cheap to build upon what they do right.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 28 @ 2:33 PM ET
Ottawa can do stuff right.

But their owner is too cheap to build upon what they do right.

- Feeling Glucky?



Who is this? Why are you using Glucker's account?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:08 AM ET
Ottawa can do stuff right.

But their owner is too cheap to build upon what they do right.

- Feeling Glucky?

Bingo. Even though they are in a better situation in the short term, their long term situation sucks and theirmedium term (5-8 years) situation is exactly the same as it is now. Bubble team with early exits
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
I reported a post by accident. Sorry...
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 8:12 AM ET
At this point PAP and Mathias are looking like the only ones they will be able to flip for a pick. Grabner, Boyes and Arco no to much.. but lots will change over the next 35-40 games.

they also have Spaling, Polak and Reimer as UFAs..lots of picks to come
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 30 @ 8:29 AM ET
At this point PAP and Mathias are looking like the only ones they will be able to flip for a pick. Grabner, Boyes and Arco no to much.. but lots will change over the next 35-40 games.

they also have Spaling, Polak and Reimer as UFAs..lots of picks to come

- senstroll


Reimer's value may never be higher than it is now........ waiting until the Trade Deadline might be a mistake.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 8:31 AM ET
Reimer's value may never be higher than it is now........ waiting until the Trade Deadline might be a mistake.
- D0PPELGANGER



I dont know that they are even looking at trading him.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 30 @ 8:35 AM ET
I dont know that they are even looking at trading him.
- senstroll


trading him now, when his value is at it's highest (Don Cherry) may also aid in tanking for the draft.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Nov 30 @ 9:57 AM ET
Bingo. Even though they are in a better situation in the short term, their long term situation sucks and theirmedium term (5-8 years) situation is exactly the same as it is now. Bubble team with early exits
- muffin_man
Lets see a top 10 offense ,a very good starting and backup tandem in nets .What could be the issue??Money or trade cant get us the player we need ,because nobody is moving a top 4 LHD with some skill .

MTL got what they needed to finish their top 4 when they got Petry.We havent found our guy yet that,s all .So we are using the only option left ,and that is to draft and develop what we need. And judging on how many homegrown guys we have on our roster i would say that is probably the best route to go
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
trading him now, when his value is at it's highest (Don Cherry) may also aid in tanking for the draft.
- D0PPELGANGER



agreed

but that doesnt mean thats the way Shanny/Lou/Dubas/Hunter/Babcock see it... in terms of whats best for the org and the future
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 30 @ 12:05 PM ET
agreed

but that doesnt mean thats the way Shanny/Lou/Dubas/Hunter/Babcock see it... in terms of whats best for the org and the future

- senstroll



The question them becomes whether or not they see both of their current goaltenders, and part of the future team, that they believe will contend for the Cup. Now how far into the future that is, is anyone guess........but if Reimer is not part of that plan, then it becomes choosing the nest time to trade him for the assets they want.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Nov 30 @ 9:33 PM ET
Lets see a top 10 offense ,a very good starting and backup tandem in nets .What could be the issue??Money or trade cant get us the player we need ,because nobody is moving a top 4 LHD with some skill .

MTL got what they needed to finish their top 4 when they got Petry.We havent found our guy yet that,s all .So we are using the only option left ,and that is to draft and develop what we need. And judging on how many homegrown guys we have on our roster i would say that is probably the best route to go

- top shelf 15

So are the send cup contenders? Because if not, I fail to see how you will suddenly become great while anderson begins his descent and you continue to pick outside of the top 10 year after year with a crappy farm system...
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 1 @ 12:58 AM ET
I reported a post by accident. Sorry...
- Pecafan Fan


To be fair they should probably all be reported.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 1 @ 9:43 AM ET
At this point PAP and Mathias are looking like the only ones they will be able to flip for a pick. Grabner, Boyes and Arco no to much.. but lots will change over the next 35-40 games.

they also have Spaling, Polak and Reimer as UFAs..lots of picks to come

- senstroll

Grabner's been great on the PK. His contract is up at the end of the season, so the Leafs can retain salary no problem on him.

Arco is nothing, obviously.

Boyes hasn't been bad, either. Good two way game.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 1 @ 9:48 AM ET
Grabner's been great on the PK. His contract is up at the end of the season, so the Leafs can retain salary no problem on him.

Arco is nothing, obviously.

Boyes hasn't been bad, either. Good two way game.

- Feeling Glucky?


Anything to say about Sparks
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 1 @ 9:49 AM ET
Anything to say about Sparks
- D0PPELGANGER

Highest sv% in the NHL

WOO!
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 1 @ 9:56 AM ET
Highest sv% in the NHL

WOO!

- Feeling Glucky?



All the toronto based "National" Sport TV stations are making a big fricken deal out of his performance last night............ stopping short of planning a parade.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Dec 1 @ 10:00 AM ET
So are the send cup contenders? Because if not, I fail to see how you will suddenly become great while anderson begins his descent and you continue to pick outside of the top 10 year after year with a crappy farm system...
- muffin_man
Our system is crappy because our best kids are in the nhl
Next crop we have coming looks great though names like Chabot ,White are the highlites,as for being a contender i dont see it this season .But we will see if we make the playoffs anything could happen i suppose.

As for the spending money part ,what should Ottawa spend money on??We need a top 4 LHD with skill ,as a must .Do you know of anybody willing to trade one of those???Yeah me either ,so we will bide our time and look to improve in other areas .Rather than waste assets and cap on so/so players to fill the viod
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 1 @ 10:00 AM ET
Our system is crappy because our best kids are in the nhl
Next crop we have coming looks great though names like Chabot ,White are the highlites,as for being a contender i dont see it this season .But we will see if we make the playoffs anything could happen i suppose.

As for the spending money part ,what should Ottawa spend money on??We need a top 4 LHD with skill ,as a must .Do you know of anybody willing to trade one of those???Yeah me either ,so we will bide our time and look to improve in other areas .Rather than waste assets and cap on so/so players to fill the viod

- top shelf 15

Better to waste assets on getting rid of players, to save a buck.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 1 @ 10:02 AM ET
Our system is crappy because our best kids are in the nhl
Next crop we have coming looks great though names like Chabot ,White are the highlites,as for being a contender i dont see it this season .But we will see if we make the playoffs anything could happen i suppose.

As for the spending money part ,what should Ottawa spend money on??We need a top 4 LHD with skill ,as a must .Do you know of anybody willing to trade one of those???Yeah me either ,so we will bide our time and look to improve in other areas .Rather than waste assets and cap on so/so players to fill the viod

- top shelf 15

http://www.hockeysfuture....t-rankings-2015-16/page/5

I couldn't find White on this list.

I wonder if Chabot would have even ranked if they didn't have to include at least one prospect from each team.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Dec 1 @ 10:06 AM ET
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/preseason-prospect-rankings-2015-16/page/5

I couldn't find White on this list.

I wonder if Chabot would have even ranked if they didn't have to include at least one prospect from each team.

- Feeling Glucky?
Yeah ,you mean you cant find Colin White who is over a ppg as a freshman in the NCAA
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Dec 1 @ 10:06 AM ET



https://soundcloud.com/be...rret-sparks-debut-shutout
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 1 @ 10:10 AM ET
Yeah ,you mean you cant find Colin White who is over a ppg as a freshman in the NCAA

- top shelf 15

Lemme check the list again.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, 232, 233, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 257, 258, 259, 260, 261, 262, 263, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 272, 273, 274, 275, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280, 281, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 288, 289, 290, 291, 292, 293, 294, 295, 296, 297, 298, 299, 300, 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 330, 331, 332, 333, 334, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 340, 341, 342, 343, 344, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 350, 351, 352, 353, 354, 355, 356, 357, 358, 359, 360, 361, 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 367, 368, 369, 370, 371, 372, 373, 374, 375, 376, 377, 378, 379, 380, 381, 382, 383, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 396, 397, 398, 399, 400, 401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 410, 411, 412, 413, 414, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 420, 421, 422, 423, 424, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 430, 431, 432, 433, 434, 435, 436, 437, 438, 439, 440, 441, 442, 443, 444, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449, 450, 451, 452, 453, 454, 455, 456, 457, 458, 459, 460, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 466, 467, 468, 469, 470, 471, 472, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 479, 480, 481, 482, 483, 484, 485, 486, 487, 488, 489, 490, 491, 492, 493, 494, 495, 496, 497, 498, 499, 500, 501, 502, 503, 504, 505, 506, 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512, 513, 514, 515, 516, 517, 518, 519, 520, 521, 522, 523, 524, 525, 526, 527, 528, 529, 530, 531, 532, 533, 534, 535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 542, 543, 544, 545, 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 551, 552, 553, 554, 555, 556, 557, 558, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563, 564, 565, 566, 567, 568, 569, 570, 571, 572, 573, 574, 575, 576, 577, 578, 579, 580, 581, 582, 583, 584, 585, 586, 587, 588, 589, 590, 591, 592, 593, 594, 595, 596, 597, 598, 599, 600, 601, 602, 603, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609, 610, 611, 612, 613, 614, 615, 616, 617, 618, 619, 620, 621, 622, 623, 624, 625, 626, 627, 628, 629, 630, 631, 632, 633, 634, 635, 636, 637, 638, 639, 640, 641, 642, 643, 644, 645, 646, 647, 648, 649, 650, 651, 652, 653, 654, 655, 656, 657, 658, 659, 660, 661, 662, 663, 664, 665, 666, 667, 668, 669, 670, 671, 672, 673, 674, 675, 676, 677, 678, 679, 680, 681, 682, 683, 684, 685, 686, 687, 688, 689, 690, 691, 692, 693, 694, 695, 696, 697, 698, 699, 700, 701, 702, 703, 704, 705, 706, 707, 708, 709, 710, 711, 712, 713, 714, 715, 716, 717, 718, 719, 720, 721, 722, 723, 724, 725, 726, 727, 728, 729, 730, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 736, 737, 738, 739, 740, 741, 742, 743, 744, 745, 746, 747, 748, 749, 750, 751, 752, 753, 754, 755, 756, 757, 758, 759, 760, 761, 762, 763, 764, 765, 766, 767, 768, 769, 770, 771, 772, 773, 774, 775, 776, 777, 778, 779, 780, 781, 782, 783, 784, 785, 786, 787, 788, 789, 790, 791, 792, 793, 794, 795, 796, 797, 798, 799, 800, 801, 802, 803, 804, 805, 806, 807, 808, 809, 810, 811, 812, 813, 814, 815, 816, 817, 818, 819, 820, 821, 822, 823, 824, 825, 826, 827, 828, 829, 830, 831, 832, 833, 834, 835, 836, 837, 838, 839, 840, 841, 842, 843, 844, 845, 846, 847, 848, 849, 850, 851, 852, 853, 854, 855, 856, 857, 858, 859, 860, 861, 862, 863, 864, 865, 866, 867, 868, 869, 870, 871, 872, 873, 874, 875, 876, 877, 878, 879, 880, 881, 882, 883, 884, 885, 886, 887, 888, 889, 890, 891, 892, 893, 894, 895, 896, 897, 898, 899, 900, 901, 902, 903, 904, 905, 906, 907, 908, 909, 910, 911, 912, 913, 914, 915, 916, 917, 918, 919, 920, 921, 922, 923, 924, 925, 926, 927, 928, 929, 930, 931, 932, 933, 934, 935, 936, 937, 938, 939, 940, 941, 942, 943, 944, 945, 946, 947, 948, 949, 950, 951, 952, 953, 954, 955, 956, 957, 958, 959, 960, 961, 962, 963, 964, 965, 966, 967, 968, 969, 970, 971, 972, 973, 974, 975, 976, 977, 978, 979, 980, 981, 982, 983, 984, 985, 986, 987, 988, 989, 990, 991, 992, 993, 994, 995, 996, 997, 998, 999, 1000, 1001, 1002, 1003, 1004, 1005, 1006, 1007, 1008, 1009, 1010, 1011, 1012, 1013, 1014, 1015, 1016, 1017, 1018, 1019, 1020, 1021, 1022, 1023, 1024, 1025, 1026, 1027, 1028, 1029, 1030, 1031, 1032, 1033, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1037, 1038, 1039, 1040, 1041, 1042, 1043, 1044, 1045, 1046, 1047, 1048, 1049, 1050, 1051, 1052, 1053, 1054, 1055, 1056, 1057, 1058, 1059, 1060, 1061, 1062, 1063, 1064, 1065, 1066, 1067, 1068, 1069, 1070, 1071, 1072, 1073, 1074, 1075, 1076, 1077, 1078, 1079, 1080, 1081, 1082, 1083, 1084, 1085, 1086, 1087, 1088, 1089, 1090, 1091, 1092, 1093, 1094, 1095, 1096, 1097, 1098, 1099, 1100, 1101, 1102, 1103, 1104, 1105, 1106, 1107, 1108, 1109, 1110, 1111, 1112, 1113, 1114, 1115, 1116, 1117, 1118, 1119, 1120, 1121, 1122, 1123, 1124, 1125, 1126, 1127, 1128, 1129, 1130, 1131, 1132, 1133, 1134, 1135, 1136, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1140, 1141, 1142, 1143, 1144, 1145, 1146, 1147, 1148, 1149, 1150, 1151, 1152, 1153, 1154, 1155, 1156  Next