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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 25 @ 4:04 PM ET


ohh dopps
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 25 @ 4:04 PM ET
Is there a video attached to the article?
- Feeling Glucky?


Yeah, you're right, I just read the article originally.........then, figured out it may have been mentioned in the video.

No mention of "being cash strapped" ........ just want to unload a bad contract, and with no takers so far, perhaps a prospect is the way to go.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 25 @ 4:08 PM ET
Yeah, you're right, I just read the article originally.........then, figured out it may have been mentioned in the video.

No mention of "being cash strapped" ........ just want to unload a bad contract, and with no takers so far, perhaps a prospect is the way to go.

- D0PPELGANGER

Why would a team with plenty of cap space and no financial issues want to move player from their AHL team so badly that they'd include a prospect just to get him out the door?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 25 @ 4:15 PM ET
Why would a team with plenty of cap space and no financial issues want to move player from their AHL team so badly that they'd include a prospect just to get him out the door?
- Feeling Glucky?


He's been deemed no longer part of the team's future, and want to get rid of him to free up a roster spot in Binghamton and his pro contract, so have the flexibility to to make further moves down the road.

Reducing expenses is a prudent managerial move as well.

Do you not reduce expenses and economize when you can?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 25 @ 4:40 PM ET
He's been deemed no longer part of the team's future, and want to get rid of him to free up a roster spot in Binghamton and his pro contract, so have the flexibility to to make further moves down the road.

Reducing expenses is a prudent managerial move as well.

Do you not reduce expenses and economize when you can?

- D0PPELGANGER


Reducing expenses that will be gone in <2 years at the expense of giving up assets isn't exactly the most ideal plan... and it's not one a team that feels it's in a comfortable situation financially would do.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 25 @ 4:47 PM ET
He's been deemed no longer part of the team's future, and want to get rid of him to free up a roster spot in Binghamton and his pro contract, so have the flexibility to to make further moves down the road.

Reducing expenses is a prudent managerial move as well.

Do you not reduce expenses and economize when you can?

- D0PPELGANGER



So they want him gone so bad they're going to open up 2 roster spots to get it done?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
Colin Greening sucks.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 25 @ 5:12 PM ET
Points = good
No points = very bad
OT wins = good
SO wins = bad in respect to tie breaker
OT loss within conference = bad
OT loss out of conference = OK
SO loss within conference = bad
SO loss out of conference = OK

- D0PPELGANGER



the NHL points *doppelmatrix

*adjust as needed ...according to your place in the standings
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 25 @ 6:54 PM ET
Colin Greening sucks.
- Pecafan Fan


Yes, and that's why they want him to move on, and get him off their books.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 25 @ 7:00 PM ET
Yes, and that's why they want him to move on, and get him off their books.
- D0PPELGANGER

nobody is questioning moving him.


It's including another asset that'd be dumb. Better off to just keep him buried until the end of next year.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 25 @ 7:20 PM ET
nobody is questioning moving him.


It's including another asset that'd be dumb. Better off to just keep him buried until the end of next year.

- Feeling Glucky?




Unless there is some financial reason to do so....,
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Nov 26 @ 8:48 AM ET
He's been deemed no longer part of the team's future, and want to get rid of him to free up a roster spot in Binghamton and his pro contract, so have the flexibility to to make further moves down the road.

Reducing expenses is a prudent managerial move as well.

Do you not reduce expenses and economize when you can?

- D0PPELGANGER

muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Nov 26 @ 8:49 AM ET
I'm waiting for the day dopps reveals he was Matt Barry all along...
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 26 @ 12:05 PM ET

- muffin_man

They're not looking to trade him with a prospect because they're short on money.


They're looking to trade him with a prospect because they want to save money.
Because every team dumps prospects to move contracts, just to economize things.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 26 @ 12:21 PM ET
They're not looking to trade him with a prospect because they're short on money.


They're looking to trade him with a prospect because they want to save money.
Because every team dumps prospects to move contracts, just to economize things.

- Feeling Glucky?


Teams will try almost anything to move undesirable contracts off their books. Sometimes they throw in a late round pick, or a prospect.........or even take another bad contract off the hands of the other team.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 26 @ 1:41 PM ET
Teams will try almost anything to move undesirable contracts off their books. Sometimes they throw in a late round pick, or a prospect.........or even take another bad contract off the hands of the other team.
- D0PPELGANGER



Doesn't taking back a bad contract negate your supposed stance that they want to do it solely for the roster spot?


Can you find an example of a team "paying" someone to take a bad contrac out of the ahl?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 26 @ 10:46 PM ET
Doesn't taking back a bad contract negate your supposed stance that they want to do it solely for the roster spot?


Can you find an example of a team "paying" someone to take a bad contrac out of the ahl?

- burn

Also, who do they want to free up a roster spot for on the AHL team?

The franchise is already devoid of valuable prospects, and we're talking about moving a prospect to get rid of Greening... For who? Who is fighting for a job on that team?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 27 @ 9:20 AM ET
The Senators have not hidden the fact that they want to move Colin Greening, they've offered him around the league, put him on waivers, and now, apparently are willing to sweeten the pot with a prospect. Their motivation is probably a combination of saving a fer dollars, freeing up a roster spot, allowing Colin to move on to another organization.

As I said before, other teams have taken back another "bad contract" to bury it in their system just to get rid of a player with a handcuffing contract on their roster.

Some of you seem to think that the Senators financial viability are at a critical tipping point and the very future of their franchise hinges on getting rid of this contract.

This is not the case. As much as you'd like to see the only successful NHL team in Ontario be forced to relocate or fold.............don't hold your breath, and perhaps you'd be better off worrying about the diminishing value of the leafs, and the prospect of another NHL int he GTA if the league expands to further cut into the leafs share of the revenue pie in their backyard.
habman75
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Une plotzza, une plotine, and , QC
Joined: 09.07.2007

Nov 27 @ 10:01 AM ET
The Senators have not hidden the fact that they want to move Colin Greening, they've offered him around the league, put him on waivers, and now, apparently are willing to sweeten the pot with a prospect. Their motivation is probably a combination of saving a fer dollars, freeing up a roster spot, allowing Colin to move on to another organization.

As I said before, other teams have taken back another "bad contract" to bury it in their system just to get rid of a player with a handcuffing contract on their roster.

Some of you seem to think that the Senators financial viability are at a critical tipping point and the very future of their franchise hinges on getting rid of this contract.

This is not the case. As much as you'd like to see the only successful NHL team in Ontario be forced to relocate or fold.............don't hold your breath, and perhaps you'd be better off worrying about the diminishing value of the leafs, and the prospect of another NHL int he GTA if the league expands to further cut into the leafs share of the revenue pie in their backyard.

- D0PPELGANGER



OH SNAP!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 27 @ 10:53 AM ET
The Senators have not hidden the fact that they want to move Colin Greening, they've offered him around the league, put him on waivers, and now, apparently are willing to sweeten the pot with a prospect. Their motivation is probably a combination of saving a fer dollars, freeing up a roster spot, allowing Colin to move on to another organization.

As I said before, other teams have taken back another "bad contract" to bury it in their system just to get rid of a player with a handcuffing contract on their roster.

Some of you seem to think that the Senators financial viability are at a critical tipping point and the very future of their franchise hinges on getting rid of this contract.

This is not the case. As much as you'd like to see the only successful NHL team in Ontario be forced to relocate or fold.............don't hold your breath, and perhaps you'd be better off worrying about the diminishing value of the leafs, and the prospect of another NHL int he GTA if the league expands to further cut into the leafs share of the revenue pie in their backyard.

- D0PPELGANGER

I don't think the Sens will fold.(though it wouldn't be the first time it's happened)

I just don't think they'll ever compete until they get a new owner.

willing to trade away futures to save a few bucks is just in line with everything Melnyk is known for.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 27 @ 12:58 PM ET
The Senators have not hidden the fact that they want to move Colin Greening, they've offered him around the league, put him on waivers, and now, apparently are willing to sweeten the pot with a prospect. Their motivation is probably a combination of saving a fer dollars, freeing up a roster spot, allowing Colin to move on to another organization.

As I said before, other teams have taken back another "bad contract" to bury it in their system just to get rid of a player with a handcuffing contract on their roster.

Some of you seem to think that the Senators financial viability are at a critical tipping point and the very future of their franchise hinges on getting rid of this contract.

This is not the case. As much as you'd like to see the only successful NHL team in Ontario be forced to relocate or fold.............don't hold your breath, and perhaps you'd be better off worrying about the diminishing value of the leafs, and the prospect of another NHL int he GTA if the league expands to further cut into the leafs share of the revenue pie in their backyard.

- D0PPELGANGER



i have not slept in days since hearing this news
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 27 @ 1:37 PM ET
i have not slept in days since hearing this news
- senstroll

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 27 @ 3:09 PM ET
I don't think the Sens will fold.(though it wouldn't be the first time it's happened)

I just don't think they'll ever compete until they get a new owner.

willing to trade away futures to save a few bucks is just in line with everything Melnyk is known for.

- Feeling Glucky?



How many times do the leafs have to change ownership, before they ever become competitive?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 27 @ 4:27 PM ET
How many times do the leafs have to change ownership, before they ever become competitive?
- D0PPELGANGER

We'll see how the current group does.


But at least there's the illusion of wanting to compete... and not dumping futures to save a few bucks.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 27 @ 5:56 PM ET
The Senators have not hidden the fact that they want to move Colin Greening, they've offered him around the league, put him on waivers, and now, apparently are willing to sweeten the pot with a prospect. Their motivation is probably a combination of saving a fer dollars, freeing up a roster spot, allowing Colin to move on to another organization.

As I said before, other teams have taken back another "bad contract" to bury it in their system just to get rid of a player with a handcuffing contract on their roster.

Some of you seem to think that the Senators financial viability are at a critical tipping point and the very future of their franchise hinges on getting rid of this contract.

This is not the case. As much as you'd like to see the only successful NHL team in Ontario be forced to relocate or fold.............don't hold your breath, and perhaps you'd be better off worrying about the diminishing value of the leafs, and the prospect of another NHL int he GTA if the league expands to further cut into the leafs share of the revenue pie in their backyard.

- D0PPELGANGER



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