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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
Yeah that's insane. No patience at all from Melynk. Hey (frank) o maybe invest some money on an NHL roster. I can't envision any coach getting anymore out of that squad then Maclean did.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Wouldn't mind if the Leafs looked into him this summer.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
Wouldn't mind if the Leafs looked into him this summer.
- Feeling Glucky?

Look the Leafs should focus on hockey and leave the prostate exams to the professionals.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 9 @ 2:43 PM ET
Look the Leafs should focus on hockey and leave the prostate exams to the professionals.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Couldn't have been a dental check-up? Had to be prostate?


Interesting that's the first place your mind went.
Pickle
Joined: 04.24.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:06 PM ET
Couldn't have been a dental check-up? Had to be prostate?


Interesting that's the first place your mind went.

- Feeling Glucky?

to be fair most people think ass when they read your posts
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
109 games into his new contract.

Try getting a few facts right.

- Doppleganger

Signed his first 3 year deal in July 2011, meaning it expired in July 2014.

They've played 25 games this season.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 9 @ 5:52 PM ET
to be fair most people think ass when they read your posts
- Pickle


Bravo.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Dec 9 @ 7:35 PM ET
Signed his first 3 year deal in July 2011, meaning it expired in July 2014.

They've played 25 games this season.

- Feeling Glucky?



Yeah, you're right, but it's been 109 games since he signed the extension, back in July of 2013.

I apologize to Pecafan Fan, sorry.



BTW
Senators have played 27 games this season.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
Bravo.
- Mr_Squeaks
'

I'd say he could've done better.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 10 @ 1:28 PM ET
'

I'd say he could've done better.

- Feeling Glucky?


By the standards of this thread, I'll take what I can get.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 11 @ 12:51 PM ET
So Maclean is fired because he helped make the team horribly overachieve 2 seasons ago?

Does Melnyk think that is a good roster?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Dec 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
Two years ago they still had Gonchar, Alfredsson and Spezza. They also had a healthy Methot.

This year they don't.

So they did not "overachieve" two seasons ago, they had a stronger more experienced lineup and played to their potential.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 11 @ 2:26 PM ET
Two years ago they still had Gonchar, Alfredsson and Spezza. They also had a healthy Methot.

This year they don't.

So they did not "overachieve" two seasons ago, they had a stronger more experienced lineup and played to their potential.

- Doppleganger

Hard to establish any identity when you have six coaches in eight years. Melynk has certainly earned himself the distinction of being one of the worst owners in the NHL.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
Two years ago they still had Gonchar, Alfredsson and Spezza. They also had a healthy Methot.

This year they don't.

So they did not "overachieve" two seasons ago, they had a stronger more experienced lineup and played to their potential.

- Doppleganger


We also had a Chris Neil and a Zach Smith who could put up numbers from the Energy Line position, a full-speed Karlsson and quite a bit of luck.

This year we have outstanding goaltending that is solely responsible for us still being ahead of Buffalo. Big gaps in defensive coverage and transition. Gaps that have not been addressed. Paul Maclean was fired because he failed to implement a working system and apparently lost control of the team. Another Sens fan described Maclean's Bye Bye conference: "This feels a lot like a winner saying goodbye to a bunch of losers." I remain concerned, since Dave Cameron was part of Maclean's coaching staff, and if he has the magic formula for success then maybe he could have sticky-noted it for Paul...

The team is what it is until it's sumpin' else.
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 11 @ 4:00 PM ET
We also had a Chris Neil and a Zach Smith who could put up numbers from the Energy Line position, a full-speed Karlsson and quite a bit of luck.

This year we have outstanding goaltending that is solely responsible for us still being ahead of Buffalo. Big gaps in defensive coverage and transition. Gaps that have not been addressed. Paul Maclean was fired because he failed to implement a working system and apparently lost control of the team. Another Sens fan described Maclean's Bye Bye conference: "This feels a lot like a winner saying goodbye to a bunch of losers." I remain concerned, since Dave Cameron was part of Maclean's coaching staff, and if he has the magic formula for success then maybe he could have sticky-noted it for Paul...

The team is what it is until it's sumpin' else.

- Mr_Squeaks


So it's settled then? Leafs are in a better position ?
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
So it's settled then? Leafs are in a better position ?
- golfingsince

WHO do you think you are not capitalizing every letter in LEAFS?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 11 @ 6:23 PM ET
So it's settled then? Leafs are in a better position ?
- golfingsince

yes

Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 11 @ 9:16 PM ET
So it's settled then? Leafs are in a better position ?
- golfingsince


If the thread had started this year, then yes, I'd call it settled. I just wish there was a Year indicator on these threads! We've wasted how many seasons on this thread...

So I'll say the Leafs are ahead in the standings right now, and few would debate me on that.

And neither team is close to winning the Stanley cup.

And since the Leafs are basically dedicated to winning it with guys like Kessel and JVR, they're doomed to fall very short. Their window will close and they'll still be waiting.

As for us, kind of hard to tell what team WE'RE going to settle for...

So enjoy your December...
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 11 @ 9:38 PM ET
If the thread had started this year, then yes, I'd call it settled. I just wish there was a Year indicator on these threads! We've wasted how many seasons on this thread...

So I'll say the Leafs are ahead in the standings right now, and few would debate me on that.

And neither team is close to winning the Stanley cup.

And since the Leafs are basically dedicated to winning it with guys like Kessel and JVR, they're doomed to fall very short. Their window will close and they'll still be waiting.

As for us, kind of hard to tell what team WE'RE going to settle for...

So enjoy your December...

- Mr_Squeaks

Yea, it'd be a lot easier if we had an exact number on how little Melnyk will spend.
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 11 @ 9:39 PM ET
Yea, it'd be a lot easier if we had an exact number on how little Melnyk will spend.
- Feeling Glucky?


You don't need to see into the future - this thread is foreeeeevvvveeeerrrrrr, maaaaaaaaannnnnn
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Dec 12 @ 7:48 AM ET
You don't need to see into the future - this thread is foreeeeevvvveeeerrrrrr, maaaaaaaaannnnnn
- Mr_Squeaks


Until there are no more leaf or Senator fans.............
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 12 @ 9:23 AM ET
ummmm......Ottawa?
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 12 @ 9:47 AM ET
Ottawa is 11-17

I dont think that is very good
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 12 @ 10:21 AM ET
Ottawa is 11-17

I dont think that is very good

- senstroll

certainly not a desirable situation
Mr_Squeaks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Location: Location: Glitch in
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 12 @ 11:57 AM ET
certainly not a desirable situation
- the_cause2000


The only desirable situation is Stanley Cup. Until one of these two teams is in a position to win one, this thread will continue to be meaningless. And finally, for an entire summer you'll have us three Sens fans on this thread, plus the 212 derpish bandwagon hoppers dancing through the thread. September of that year (2017, thank you very much) the Leafs fans will retort with, "Yeah, but now that's done. Who's in a better position now?"

Please note that the above paragraph contained hypotheticals, written towards the most likely scenario, but not something that will necessarily come to pass. I have no idea how many bandwagon jumpers will come to hockeybuzz.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 12 @ 12:27 PM ET
Two years ago they still had Gonchar, Alfredsson and Spezza. They also had a healthy Methot.

This year they don't.

So they did not "overachieve" two seasons ago, they had a stronger more experienced lineup and played to their potential.

- Doppleganger


They had a better lineup, but that doesn't mean they did not overachieve.

The real reason for the success two seasons ago was insane goaltending which made the team look better than it was. I said at that time they'd regress because that goaltending would not repeat those numbers.
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