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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 28 @ 4:47 PM ET
dopps is the most one putting importance on a single goal.
- Feeling Glucky?



NAWWW, an OT winner that sends your team to the Memorial Cup Finals is totally meaningless.


Prediction, Lazar gets sent back to Junior.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 28 @ 4:51 PM ET
dopps is the most one putting importance on a single goal.
- Feeling Glucky?



prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 29 @ 7:28 PM ET

- Doppleganger


Wow. He must have been named to the tournament all star team.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 30 @ 6:52 AM ET
Wow. He must have been named to the tournament all star team.
- prock



NO, he wasn't..............it was a meaningless goal by a passenger, as you say.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 30 @ 7:43 AM ET
NO, he wasn't..............it was a meaningless goal by a passenger, as you say.
- Doppleganger


Were there other guys on his team that were?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 30 @ 8:01 AM ET
Were there other guys on his team that were?
- prock



As much as you might covet an "all star" spot after a tournament or playoffs, I'm pretty sure anyone who participates in a tournament or playoffs, have their eyes firmly set on winning the Championship.

Perhaps you should ask those who were selected to the 2014 Memorial Cup all star team, who did not play for the Oil Kings if they would rather win the Memorial Cup, of are happier with their selection to the all star team??
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 30 @ 8:09 AM ET
As much as you might covet an "all star" spot after a tournament or playoffs, I'm pretty sure anyone who participates in a tournament or playoffs, have their eyes firmly set on winning the Championship.

Perhaps you should ask those who were selected to the 2014 Memorial Cup all star team, who did not play for the Oil Kings if they would rather win the Memorial Cup, of are happier with their selection to the all star team??

- Doppleganger

I'm sure they would.

It's a statement about who played the most important roles on the team. i.e. LAzar was third/fourth fiddle on that team.

Catch up, big guy.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 30 @ 9:20 AM ET
your stupidity knows absolutely no limits. he was the 3rd leading scorer in a 4-5 game tournament, so that makes him 3rd or 4th fiddle on the entire team? you ignore the fact that he was the captain, as well as 2nd leading scorer (1st in goals) for the actual season, despite missing significant time due to playing in the world jrs. want to talk about 4th, or perhaps more appropriately, 18th fidde on his team....lets talk about nylander. didn't even make the world jr team, and had virtually no points on his swedish team.

it makes me laugh every day how absolutely obsessed you are with the sens.............keep it up. every time i think of your obsession with the sens, all i can picture is this.


- sensarmy_11

Nylander was 2 ppg in the world juniors, and did better in the SHL than pretty much any NHLer has at that age.


soo...


yea...

sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 30 @ 9:23 AM ET
Nylander was 2 ppg in the world juniors, and did better in the SHL than pretty much any NHLer has at that age.


soo...


yea...


- Feeling Glucky?


nylander didn't make the swedish world jr team.....he played in the under 18 tournament. so he dominated against 16 and 17 year olds........WOW!!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 30 @ 9:26 AM ET
nylander didn't make the swedish world jr team.....he played in the under 18 tournament. so he dominated against 16 and 17 year olds........WOW!!
- sensarmy_11

and unlike Lazar, he's also been PPG vs veteran players.

PS- what was Lazar doing at the same age?
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 30 @ 9:32 AM ET
and unlike Lazar, he's also been PPG vs veteran players.

PS- what was Lazar doing at the same age?

- Feeling Glucky?


wow, 19pts against what essentially boils down to teh ECHL of Sweden, which is probably 4 levels lower than the actual ECHL.

OMG, so incredible.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 30 @ 9:34 AM ET
nylander didn't make the swedish world jr team.....he played in the under 18 tournament. so he dominated against 16 and 17 year olds........WOW!!
- sensarmy_11


nylanders stats > at the same stage. Nylander didn't play in u20 as a 17 year old, and nor did lazar. Lazar didn't play u18, nylander did and dominated.


You not doing yourself any favors here
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 30 @ 9:34 AM ET
wow, 19pts against what essentially boils down to teh ECHL of Sweden, which is probably 4 levels lower than the actual ECHL.

OMG, so incredible.

- sensarmy_11



sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 30 @ 9:39 AM ET
nylanders stats > at the same stage. Nylander didn't play in u20 as a 17 year old, and nor did lazar. Lazar didn't play u18, nylander did and dominated.


You not doing yourself any favors here

- burn


how do you figure? lazar's stats in the WHL are significantly better than nylander's stats in Tier 2 SHL (which is where he played a majority of his time)...and in his 22 games in the actual tier 1 league, he had 7 pts.

he'll be a good player, but he hasn't shown any more potential than lazar.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 30 @ 9:42 AM ET
how do you figure? lazar's stats in the WHL are significantly better than nylander's stats in Tier 2 SHL (which is where he played a majority of his time)...and in his 22 games in the actual tier 1 league, he had 7 pts.
- sensarmy_11



How can you compare the two league? How do you know that those stats in the who are significantly better? You don't.

But we do know that when they played internationally nylander > stats are better.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 30 @ 9:45 AM ET
wow, 19pts against what essentially boils down to teh ECHL of Sweden, which is probably 4 levels lower than the actual ECHL.

OMG, so incredible.

- sensarmy_11

more like swedish AHL... which means the competition is a lot harder than CHL. Since he's playing against, you know, adults, not the 16/17 year olds you derided a couple of posts back.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 30 @ 9:51 AM ET
more like swedish AHL... which means the competition is a lot harder than CHL. Since he's playing against, you know, adults, not the 16/17 year olds you derided a couple of posts back.
- Feeling Glucky?



Nylander didn't even make the u20 team as a 17 year old!!! (Ignore the fact lazar didn't make the u20 team as a 17 year old either)


Omg nylander dominated 16/17 year olds (ignoring that he was 17 and lazar didn't play in the tournament when he was th same age)


prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:52 AM ET
nylander didn't make the swedish world jr team.....he played in the under 18 tournament. so he dominated against 16 and 17 year olds........WOW!!
- sensarmy_11


Point proven. You overrate this chump so badly. Couldn't even break top 20 in WHL scoring.

Great third line prospect you got there. Bolland is the perfect comparison.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 30 @ 9:57 AM ET
more like swedish AHL... which means the competition is a lot harder than CHL. Since he's playing against, you know, adults, not the 16/17 year olds you derided a couple of posts back.
- Feeling Glucky?


i would actually say the tier 1 SEL is comparable to the AHL, which means the tier 2 would be the ECHL.

either way, it's difficult to compare leagues. but prock dismissing lazar, while claiming that nylander is the next coming wayne gretzky seems pretty ridiculous.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 30 @ 10:08 AM ET
i would actually say the tier 1 SEL is comparable to the AHL, which means the tier 2 would be the ECHL.

either way, it's difficult to compare leagues. but prock dismissing lazar, while claiming that nylander is the next coming wayne gretzky seems pretty ridiculous.

- sensarmy_11



Why are we talking about tier 2? Nylander played elite league and tier 1.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 30 @ 10:18 AM ET
Why are we talking about tier 2? Nylander played elite league and tier 1.
- burn


however you call it, he played 22 games with the big club (which is comparable in level to hte AHL) and the rest of hte season with the lower tier club, which is probably comparable to the ECHL
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 30 @ 10:19 AM ET
Point proven. You overrate this chump so badly. Couldn't even break top 20 in WHL scoring.

Great third line prospect you got there. Bolland is the perfect comparison.

- prock



I didnt realize Bolland had such good OHL stats... crushes lazar
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 30 @ 10:28 AM ET
however you call it, he played 22 games with the big club (which is comparable in level to hte AHL) and the rest of hte season with the lower tier club, which is probably comparable to the ECHL
- sensarmy_11



False.

And even if you believe that how is it better to dominate 16/17 year olds in the whl rather than take a regular shift at 17 in a pro league? To me the 17 year old playing in a men's league and playing regularly and producing is a step up from a 19 year old playing against teenagers.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 30 @ 10:50 AM ET
False.

And even if you believe that how is it better to dominate 16/17 year olds in the whl rather than take a regular shift at 17 in a pro league? To me the 17 year old playing in a men's league and playing regularly and producing is a step up from a 19 year old playing against teenagers.

- burn


you do realize that a majority of hte players in the WHL are 18/19/20 right, not 16/17.

there are probably more NHL drafted players in the WHL then there are in tier 1 SEL.

what's the difference between playing against a 19/20 year old kid who's good enough to get drafted in the NHL vs playing against a 27 year old who was never good enough to even get a sniff. does being 7 years older, but less talented make it a harder league to play in?
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 30 @ 10:52 AM ET
I didnt realize Bolland had such good OHL stats... crushes lazar
- senstroll


magnus paarjavi had better stats in the SEL than nylander..........crushes him. so i guess nylander is headed for 4th line/AHL duties.
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