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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 15 @ 7:56 PM ET
With 3 wins in 4 games, the Toronto Maple Leafs wiped the floor with the Ottawa Senators in the 2013/14 NHL season. With a .750 win% against them, a few more games against the Ottawa Senators likely would have put the Leafs in the playoffs.
- prock



And yet the Senators finished ahead of the leafs in standing at the end of the season.

If memory serves me correctly, the Senators have finished ahead of the leafs in the standings, 8 times in the last 11 seasons.


Ottawa also made the playoffs 6 times in the last 9 seasons, to the 1 time in the same span for the leafs.


So clearly the Senators are the better team when compared to the other Ontario based team, for the past 10 plus seasons.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 15 @ 8:55 PM ET
If both teams are going to miss the playoffs I hope the leafs finish behind Ottawa again. Its a win for everyone. Leafs get the better prospect and Sens fans get to feel good because they were less awful than Toronto.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:00 AM ET
Guys, we still don't know WHO is in a better situation: LEAFS or SENS?

Please stay on topic.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 16 @ 7:08 AM ET
Guys, we still don't know WHO is in a better situation: LEAFS or SENS?

Please stay on topic.

- Pecafan Fan

Did you not see the score of that rookie game? 6-2 Ottawa.

So the answer right now is SENS.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:21 AM ET
man, this thread is ridiculous.

just for fun, i went back and read teh first few pages......didn't realize how long ago this was created.

people were arguing about the two teams cores......

schenn, kaberle, sundin, etc.....leafs had tons of prospects, young roster players and cap room

vs

heatley, spezza, alfi, philips.....sens were tied down by big contracts and had no cap room



if only people knew then what they do now
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 16 @ 7:28 AM ET
He's still pushing his anti-olympic agenda, holy (frank) lol.

Why not bring up the big ice again while we're at it. That argument went so well for you dopps.

- daeth



Ottawa's playoff hopes were squashed when Hasek sustained an injury that kept him out of the playoffs, when they had a good chance to go deep..............so yes I'm not a fan of the NHL compressing their schedule for an entire season to accommodate the Olympics. Perhaps some more leaf fans now think so too, as Bernier's injury could also have ties to the compressed schedule after a long layoff for the Olympics.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:31 AM ET
Ottawa's playoff hopes were squashed when Hasek sustained an injury that kept him out of the playoffs, when they had a good chance to go deep..............so yes I'm not a fan of the NHL compressing their schedule for an entire season to accommodate the Olympics. Perhaps some more leaf fans now think so too, as Bernier's injury could also have ties to the compressed schedule after a long layoff for the Olympics.
- Doppleganger


You're suggesting Bernier was injured because... he was too rested?
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:32 AM ET
You're suggesting Bernier was injured because... he was too rested?
- Pecafan Fan


bed sores?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:35 AM ET
bed sores?
- sensarmy_11


I'm wondering...
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:38 AM ET
I'm wondering...
- Pecafan Fan


could be pins and needles from spending too much time on teh couch.......i get that a lot on NFL sundays
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 771 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Sep 16 @ 7:43 AM ET
Jesus tap dancing Christ shut the (frank) up
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:46 AM ET
Jesus tap dancing Christ shut the (frank) up
- Cape Breton Bruins

sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:49 AM ET
Jesus tap dancing Christ shut the (frank) up
- Cape Breton Bruins


Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 16 @ 7:54 AM ET
You're suggesting Bernier was injured because... he was too rested?
- Pecafan Fan



Yes. When do most groin or Hamstring injuries occur? Early in the season, after a lay off, and perhaps this was a contributing factor to his groin injury. A three week plus layoff and then jumping back into a compressed schedule, not an impossibility.

Perhaps you know exactly the reason?

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 16 @ 7:55 AM ET
Ottawa's playoff hopes were squashed when Hasek sustained an injury that kept him out of the playoffs, when they had a good chance to go deep..............so yes I'm not a fan of the NHL compressing their schedule for an entire season to accommodate the Olympics. Perhaps some more leaf fans now think so too, as Bernier's injury could also have ties to the compressed schedule after a long layoff for the Olympics.
- Doppleganger

I got to cheer for a winner and witness one of the best defensive efforts in the history of hockey as Canada won gold. I'd have a hard time trying to spin that into a negative.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 7:59 AM ET
Yes. When do most groin or Hamstring injuries occur? Early in the season, after a lay off, and perhaps this was a contributing factor to his groin injury. A three week plus layoff and then jumping back into a compressed schedule, not an impossibility.

Perhaps you know exactly the reason?

- Doppleganger


Well, if Bernier was too stupid to stay fit during the Olympic Break, I guess he's got only himself to blame for that.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 16 @ 8:02 AM ET
I got to cheer for a winner and witness one of the best defensive efforts in the history of hockey as Canada won gold. I'd have a hard time trying to spin that into a negative.
- daeth


Don't get me wrong. I enjoy Olympic hockey just as much as the next guy. I just dislike the price paid by the NHL to accommodate the Olympics.

I there was a way to separate the two, that would be perfect, but don't see a way.

I would like to see the WJC moved to the Olympics every four years, and let the NHL alone. But that's not going to happen.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 16 @ 8:03 AM ET
It's always fun reading old posts.

Gionta IS better than Kessel. It doesn't mean that Kessel isn't any good (I can admit his talent even though he plays for Toronto), but Brian Gionta is presently a better hockey player than Phil Kessel.

You just have a hard time believing it because Gionta is a Hab and is the smallest player in the NHL.

- Discofunk
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:04 AM ET
It's always fun reading old posts.
- daeth


Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:04 AM ET
Don't get me wrong. I enjoy Olympic hockey just as much as the next guy. I just dislike the price paid by the NHL to accommodate the Olympics.

I there was a way to separate the two, that would be perfect, but don't see a way.

I would like to see the WJC moved to the Olympics every four years, and let the NHL alone. But that's not going to happen.

- Doppleganger


I'd be ok with that as well.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 16 @ 8:06 AM ET
Well, if Bernier was too stupid to stay fit during the Olympic Break, I guess he's got only himself to blame for that.
- Pecafan Fan


Because it was his choice to shutdown the NHL season?

There's two sides to having the NHL shutdown for 3 plus weeks in the stretch drive to the playoffs. The Senators got screwed when they lost Hasek, and I'm suggesting that perhaps the shutdown contributed to Bernier's injury, as I don't see how it can be completely ruled out.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 16 @ 8:10 AM ET
I just love Olympic hockey. It sucks when someone like Hasek, Tavares, Sakic, etc gets hurt but as a fan I feel it's still worth the risk.
sensarmy_11
Ottawa Senators
Location: If Ottawa traded ryan for clarkson sens would need to add a pick - Prock, NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:10 AM ET
It's always fun reading old posts.
- daeth



RogerRoepper
Kaberle is without a doubt worth a first rounder.


SpOOnz
Having an owner with deep pockets and a desire to win keeps the Senators in the NHL


sens4life_
He actually is worth billions...he is a top money maker in horse racing and could care less if he loses a couple million in the senators which is why he is trying to get an ottawa professional team. If he wasn't a money maker he couldn't afford two professional teams lol or am i wrong??



hindsight is awesome.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Drink full, and descend, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 16 @ 8:12 AM ET
RogerRoepper

SpOOnz

sens4life_


hindsight is awesome.

- sensarmy_11

kabs went for a 1st, a 1st round prospect, and a 2nd believe it or not

www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=354402
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:14 AM ET
Because it was his choice to shutdown the NHL season?

There's two sides to having the NHL shutdown for 3 plus weeks in the stretch drive to the playoffs. The Senators got screwed when they lost Hasek, and I'm suggesting that perhaps the shutdown contributed to Bernier's injury, as I don't see how it can be completely ruled out.

- Doppleganger


No, because he's a highly paid professional and it's his responsibility to stay in shape and be ready to play when needed.
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