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penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i really am (frank)ing great. i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 17 @ 9:05 PM ET
who will the Flyers trade for him?
- twiztedmike

simmonds, sanheim and a 2nd
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I guess you can't touch or make comments to millennials... - SensFan25
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:08 PM ET
simmonds, sanheim and a 2nd
- penguininnevada

Simmonds Sanheim Gostisbehere, Giroux, a 2018 1st and 2019 1st.

That is the only possible fair offer

Love,

Spazz'Doops
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I guess you can't touch or make comments to millennials... - SensFan25
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:12 PM ET
Hoffman's value is not at all impacted by having a psycho fiance.

Karlsson's value is not at all impacted by the serious injuries or by the fact that he doesn't have the faintest idea how to play defense or that his next contract won't be even close to worth it about 7 picoseconds after he signs.



Love,
All the (frank)ing idiot Senators fans who are too stupid to give up on this tire fire.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: i really am (frank)ing great. i think i need an actual gun pressed between my eyes
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 17 @ 9:24 PM ET
Hoffman's value is not at all impacted by having a psycho fiance.

Karlsson's value is not at all impacted by the serious injuries or by the fact that he doesn't have the faintest idea how to play defense or that his next contract won't be even close to worth it about 7 picoseconds after he signs.



Love,
All the (frank)ing idiot Senators fans who are too stupid to give up on this tire fire.

- Aetherial

BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:29 AM ET
We're now at 51 days and counting without a Derps sighting. I'm really starting to get worried.

I have zero interest in grass diving, cars turning left or either version of stick ball (throw and swing or on the ground and swing).

With the official start of summer only a couple days away I'm left to wonder how I'll pass the doldrums with no Sens summer talk.

And what about System Tool? There won't be any new material for a summer talk retrospective going into next season. I mean the greatest hits are always good for a laugh but sometimes I like to read something fresh.

Speaking of Toolsie, where has he been? I know he always has to poo but that doesn't mean he can't bring his phone into the poopter with him. And I'd really like to know his take on the manliness of the Sens organization since they clearly always have to poo as evidenced by the fact that they are constantly poopting their pants.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I guess you can't touch or make comments to millennials... - SensFan25
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 18 @ 1:29 PM ET
We're now at 51 days and counting without a Derps sighting. I'm really starting to get worried.

I have zero interest in grass diving, cars turning left or either version of stick ball (throw and swing or on the ground and swing).

With the official start of summer only a couple days away I'm left to wonder how I'll pass the doldrums with no Sens summer talk.

And what about System Tool? There won't be any new material for a summer talk retrospective going into next season. I mean the greatest hits are always good for a laugh but sometimes I like to read something fresh.

Speaking of Toolsie, where has he been? I know he always has to poo but that doesn't mean he can't bring his phone into the poopter with him. And I'd really like to know his take on the manliness of the Sens organization since they clearly always have to poo as evidenced by the fact that they are constantly poopting their pants.

- BlueBallz


well done
GudasNew
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.03.2015

Jun 19 @ 8:10 AM ET
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TRADE: The #Sens have acquired forward Mikkel Boedker, defenceman Julius Bergman and a sixth-round choice in the 2020 NHL Draft from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Mike Hoffman, Cody Donaghy and Ottawa’s fifth-round pick in 2020:

BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 19 @ 8:24 AM ET
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TRADE: The #Sens have acquired forward Mikkel Boedker, defenceman Julius Bergman and a sixth-round choice in the 2020 NHL Draft from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Mike Hoffman, Cody Donaghy and Ottawa’s fifth-round pick in 2020:


- GudasNew

Lol

That sums it up nicely.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:34 AM ET
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TRADE: The #Sens have acquired forward Mikkel Boedker, defenceman Julius Bergman and a sixth-round choice in the 2020 NHL Draft from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Mike Hoffman, Cody Donaghy and Ottawa’s fifth-round pick in 2020:


- GudasNew


kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i should go watch some movie about sodomy in Serbian that's all sepia tone instead I guess
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 19 @ 9:05 AM ET
lol
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:09 AM ET
well done
- Aetherial

Thank you, sir.

It took a while to get there but I think it was worth the journey.

As we see once again, this morning with the Hoffman trade, the pants poopting continues. Without any insight from Toolsie I'm forced to believe that the Sens are the alpha males of the NHL.
daeth
Detroit Red Wings
Location: toronto won the cup, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 19 @ 9:14 AM ET
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TRADE: The #Sens have acquired forward Mikkel Boedker, defenceman Julius Bergman and a sixth-round choice in the 2020 NHL Draft from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Mike Hoffman, Cody Donaghy and Ottawa’s fifth-round pick in 2020:


- GudasNew

so a star winger for a bunch of trash?

not a great situation.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i should go watch some movie about sodomy in Serbian that's all sepia tone instead I guess
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 19 @ 9:18 AM ET
so a star winger for a bunch of trash?

not a great situation.

- daeth

i wonder if dErps has worked out that wicked hook in his drive yet.
daeth
Detroit Red Wings
Location: toronto won the cup, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 19 @ 9:21 AM ET
i wonder if dErps has worked out that wicked hook in his drive yet.
- kicksave856

the only way this could get worse for ottawa would be if t hey relocated to quebec or something. you just know karlsson is gone the first second he's able to leave.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:28 AM ET
i wonder if dErps has worked out that wicked hook in his drive yet.
- kicksave856

52 days since his last post. Not much to talk about in Sens land I guess.

He'll be on the senior PGA tour in no time.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i should go watch some movie about sodomy in Serbian that's all sepia tone instead I guess
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
52 days since his last post. Not much to talk about in Sens land I guess.

He'll be on the senior PGA tour in no time.

- BlueBallz

speaking of his drive, i'm pretty sure there are curb feelers and the left turn signal has been on for 20 minutes.
daeth
Detroit Red Wings
Location: toronto won the cup, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 19 @ 9:38 AM ET
i'd keep the pick myself but ottawa really should be considering giving colorado their 1st this year since they might be the worst team in the league next year.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
the only way this could get worse for ottawa would be if t hey relocated to quebec or something. you just know karlsson is gone the first second he's able to leave.
- daeth

It will continue to get worse. Much worse. Their delusional view of the state of the franchise was on full display at the deadline.

They could have moved both EK and MH at the deadline for a killing. They knew about the fiancé situation prior to the deadline when they were miles out of the playoff race and waited until the poop hit the fan forcing them to move him for pennies on the dollar this morning.

Vegas gave up a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Tatar. TATAR! What would they have given up for EK?

I have no reason to believe at this point that they aren't so out of touch with reality that they think EK will sign an extension. That means he'll walk for nothing next July. And even if he did sign an extension they have shown a complete inability to build a good team around him so they'll just continue to squander the best years of a star talent.

They look like they're keeping the 4th OA this year which in addition to the initial folly of making the Duchene trade is demonstrating a Brian Burke level of team talent evaluation.

Colorado will be picking 4th OA at worst next year when Lolttawa finishes dead last and they have a chance at picking another potential franchise centre with that pick if they win the lottery.
daeth
Detroit Red Wings
Location: toronto won the cup, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 19 @ 9:52 AM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mikkel-boedker

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mike-hoffman

so buddy has a $4M cap hit but only gets paid $3M in his last 2 seasons. it's the opposite with hoffman. $5M cap hit with a $5.65M actual salary.

is melnickel and dime at it again?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 19 @ 10:13 AM ET
i'd keep the pick myself but ottawa really should be considering giving colorado their 1st this year since they might be the worst team in the league next year.
- daeth


I think they should. Trade all of Karlsson, Duchene, and maybe even Stone. Get multiple 1st round picks in this years draft and some decent prospects.

Let Colorado have their 1st this year and be the worst team in the league next. At worst, they end up with the same pick next year; 4th.

Honesty, this is probably the best thing they could do. Admit how bad they are and build from there.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: Once when I was 12, I was licked by the Bushwackers and was told to shut my stupid mouth by Zeus. R, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:03 AM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mikkel-boedker

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mike-hoffman

so buddy has a $4M cap hit but only gets paid $3M in his last 2 seasons. it's the opposite with hoffman. $5M cap hit with a $5.65M actual salary.

is melnickel and dime at it again?

- daeth

I love that so much.
daeth
Detroit Red Wings
Location: toronto won the cup, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 19 @ 11:25 AM ET
I love that so much.
- Cape Breton Bruins

who was the first to use that? its perfect
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: the Steven Stamkos contract already looks bad and it's just two years old. james tanner
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 11:45 AM ET
hoffmen probably gets traded this year in a dumb cost cutting move and they probably lose karlssun next year anyways.

idk. hoffnam and a 2nd for sheary.

- Tumbleweed


christmas talk
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: the Steven Stamkos contract already looks bad and it's just two years old. james tanner
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 11:46 AM ET
The best thing about the conditional 1st that they traded is that even if they don't give it up this year they're forced to next year and Ottawa could arguably be a worse team next season.
- GreatGigInTheSky


more christmas talk
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: the Steven Stamkos contract already looks bad and it's just two years old. james tanner
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 11:46 AM ET
somebody's been real busy deleting all the old summer talk
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