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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Show me specifically what I said and how that is not consistent with what I said earlier.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 1 @ 11:33 PM ET
Oh ffs.
- Feeling Glucky?

god i hope the league folds
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 2:59 PM ET

Matt Cane
‏ @Cane_Matt
Been getting a lot of questions about whether Mark Stone will really get $9M this off-season (like my model suggests). I personally think that's a high estimate, *but* I'd probably set his floor at around 8M, which I think is higher than what the Sens/Sens fans are expecting...


bye bye Mark Stone?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:04 PM ET
bye bye Mark Stone?
- senstroll


hmmm.

i'd offer sheet him at ~$7.5M.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 3:08 PM ET
hmmm.

i'd offer sheet him at ~$7.5M.

- Tumbleweed


so 7.5 x 5?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:09 PM ET
so 7.5 x 5?
- senstroll


sure. at least that in term.

he's 25. term doesn't bother me with him.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
sure. at least that in term.

he's 25. term doesn't bother me with him.

- Tumbleweed


iirc the way offer sheets work you divde the total money /5

so 7.5 x 7 works out to a cap hit of 10.5 and 4 1sts compensation if they dont match
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Brian Boyle is better than Patrick Marleau - Dopps, SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
don't actually die, I'd feel really poopty about this.
- Feeling Glucky?


no you were right the first time
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
iirc the way offer sheets work you divde the total money /5

so 7.5 x 7 works out to a cap hit of 10.5 and 4 1sts

- senstroll


forgot about that.

so 5 years it is.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
forgot about that.

so 5 years it is.

- Tumbleweed


I think you can offer up to 6.4 x 7 and it would be Two First Rounds, Second and Third Round

Sens are probably hoping for an offer sheet
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Brian Boyle is better than Patrick Marleau - Dopps, SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
iirc the way offer sheets work you divde the total money /5

so 7.5 x 7 works out to a cap hit of 10.5 and 4 1sts compensation if they dont match

- senstroll


Yeah, but if you were to go 5 years @ $7.5 Million instead then you're at a 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
Yeah, but if you were to go 5 years @ $7.5 Million instead then you're at a 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
- BINGO!


I think 7.5 is still .. 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
I think 7.5 is still .. 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
- senstroll


Over $5,888,960 to $7,851,948 First-round, second-round and third-round pick


those limits will also go up this year with the cap.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Brian Boyle is better than Patrick Marleau - Dopps, SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
Over $5,888,960 to $7,851,948 First-round, second-round and third-round pick


those limits will also go up this year with the cap.

- Tumbleweed


Yep. Possibly substantially.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:29 PM ET
Yep. Possibly substantially.
- BINGO!


assuming the old limits, you do something like (as long as cap compliant):

1 - 10
2 - 9
3- 7
4 - 7
5 - 6
total - 39M

drop a ~$9m signing bonus in year 1 and watch melynk squirm.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 6 @ 10:44 PM ET
iirc the way offer sheets work you divde the total money /5

so 7.5 x 7 works out to a cap hit of 10.5 and 4 1sts compensation if they dont match

- senstroll

You only divide by 5 if it's 5 years or over.
I don't know if that's still the case though, it was to prevent GMs from doing the crazy long term cap-screwing deals... but with the 7 year limit in place, it might have been taken out.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 7 @ 6:43 AM ET
Laine has 7 goals in his last 3 games played.


So... Sens?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 7 @ 7:32 AM ET
god i hope the league folds
- Crimsoninja


At least they give us lockouts every 5 years
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 8 @ 2:39 PM ET
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Mar 8 @ 6:29 PM ET
no you were right the first time
- BINGO!

Better to be dead than to live in your shoes (and pen)... idiot.
daeth
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: shambles, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 9 @ 8:35 PM ET
RAPTORS or REDBLACKS
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Mar 10 @ 5:25 AM ET
RAPTORS or REDBLACKS
- daeth

are we evaluating by parking situations or by success and turnout despite having other big draws in the area?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 10 @ 12:02 PM ET
I wonder what happened to Spasto and Dopps.

I’d say I hope they’re ok, but I’m not a liar.
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 11:51 AM ET
Cute.

There is no doubt that Dion has been a major player for the Sens. His play and especially his guidance in helping Ceci to develop into a solid #3 is one of the main reasons the Sens have evolved as strongly as they have.

Look for Phaneuf to log lots of minutes next year in helping to mentor Chabot's transition to the NHL game.

- spatso


and then what happened
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 11:53 AM ET
So we are going to play let's pretend again today.

Sens are deep in NHL prospects in their system...Leafs are not.

Sens are good this year. They will be better next year.

I am not the only one predicting a sophomore slump for Leafs next year. Their lack of D will be exploited in exactly the same way as it was for the Oilers over a bunch of years. Leafs have done nothing...nothing to convince anyone that they have been able to grow out of their loser tradition.

- spatso


and then what happened?
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 11:57 AM ET
Seriously. It was a huge error for the Leafs to let Phaneuf go in a trade to Ottawa. Obviously the Leaf defence is bad and getting worse. Young guys have no mentor to help them learn the NHL game. Reilly has become a disaster and the Leafs need to get back to the drawing board.
- spatso


and then what happened?
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