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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would package Kane and Reinhart in a deal for Hanafin, a 1st, a prospect. -Dukey3030
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 22 @ 6:39 PM ET
The best thing about the conditional 1st that they traded is that even if they don't give it up this year they're forced to next year and Ottawa could arguably be a worse team next season.
- GreatGigInTheSky


The funniest part is that they have to decide. I mean if they are drafting bottom 5 this year they keep it. What if its a 10-14 pick? It would be hilarious to see them make a bad choice.

Anyone think there is any way Karlsson stays there and if he does will the contract ruin them long term anyway?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 22 @ 9:55 PM ET
The funniest part is that they have to decide. I mean if they are drafting bottom 5 this year they keep it. What is if its a 10-14 pick? It would be hilarious to see them make a bad choice.

Anyone think there is any way Karlsson stays there and if he does will the contract ruin them long term anyway?

- Aetherial


I think it's a lose/lose for Ottawa.

They either overpay and give him money he's not worth and screw the team for the foreseeable future, or they get rid of him and all 6000 Sens fans revolt.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 22 @ 11:08 PM ET
I think it's a lose/lose for Ottawa.

They either overpay and give him money he's not worth and screw the team for the foreseeable future, or they get rid of him and all 6000 Sens fans revolt.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Agreed
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 23 @ 12:55 AM ET
Agreed
- Tumbleweed


I had actually typed in 6 originally, but I figured I'd at least be semi-realistic about it and give them the benefit for the doubt and say 6000.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ahead By A Century, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 24 @ 6:53 PM ET
It's almost Christmas and I think we can all agree that we've already gotten the best present possible. The Sens being pathetically bad on the ice and them having no future.

All they need to do now is pull a Buttalo/Vagcouver and fall at the draft.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would package Kane and Reinhart in a deal for Hanafin, a 1st, a prospect. -Dukey3030
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 25 @ 12:02 PM ET
Safe and and Happy Christmas Spazzo and Dopps!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 26 @ 12:28 PM ET
It's almost Christmas and I think we can all agree that we've already gotten the best present possible. The Sens being pathetically bad on the ice and them having no future.

- GreatGigInTheSky


dumping Phaneuf on them was like the gift that has never stopped giving.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
The funniest part is that they have to decide. I mean if they are drafting bottom 5 this year they keep it. What if its a 10-14 pick? It would be hilarious to see them make a bad choice.

Anyone think there is any way Karlsson stays there and if he does will the contract ruin them long term anyway?

- Aetherial



it's a lose lose scenario for them. karlsson either jumps ship or they pay him something and have to make cuts elsewhere. either way theyre going to be worse of a dumpster team than they already are.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 26 @ 12:47 PM ET
it's a lose lose scenario for them. karlsson either jumps ship or they pay him something and have to make cuts elsewhere. either way theyre going to be worse of a dumpster team than they already are.
- prock


hoffmen probably gets traded this year in a dumb cost cutting move and they probably lose karlssun next year anyways.

idk. hoffnam and a 2nd for sheary.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: (frank) those orbs, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
never seen you guys so happy before
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
never seen you guys so happy before
- daeth


daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: (frank) those orbs, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
it is pretty interesting to see how bad the tire fire is

average prospect pool
bad draft pick situation
garbage owner
bad parking situation
bad ahl team
lottery nhl team
fans not showing up to games

what is actually going well for them at this point? anything? i guess they still have karlsson for now, that's a good thing.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 26 @ 5:26 PM ET
dumping Phaneuf on them was like the gift that has never stopped giving.
- prock


i thought getting phaneuf from the Leafs was "like finding a wallet" for the sens....

either view works for me though.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 1:51 AM ET
it is pretty interesting to see how bad the tire fire is

average prospect pool
bad draft pick situation
garbage owner
bad parking situation
bad ahl team
lottery nhl team
fans not showing up to games

what is actually going well for them at this point? anything? i guess they still have karlsson for now, that's a good thing.

- daeth

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would package Kane and Reinhart in a deal for Hanafin, a 1st, a prospect. -Dukey3030
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 27 @ 11:52 AM ET
i thought getting phaneuf from the Leafs was "like finding a wallet" for the sens....

either view works for me though.

- systemtool



Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would package Kane and Reinhart in a deal for Hanafin, a 1st, a prospect. -Dukey3030
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 27 @ 12:03 PM ET

- twiztedmike

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Dec 27 @ 3:15 PM ET

- Aetherial



says it all. hope they beat the bruins for us.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
says it all. hope they beat the bruins for us.
- systemtool


yeah right. wishful thinking. the sens are pure garbage. easy 2 points for the Bruins.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: desert ridge
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 27 @ 9:39 PM ET
What a mess
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would package Kane and Reinhart in a deal for Hanafin, a 1st, a prospect. -Dukey3030
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
What a mess
- Tumbleweed


Wow I just saw the highlights

Holy crap they are beyond bad right now.

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: (frank) those orbs, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 27 @ 10:20 PM ET
does ottawa let colorado have their 1st even if it ends up being a top 10 pick out of fear of their 2019 pick being 1st overall?

this will be the important discussion moving forward
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Dec 27 @ 10:25 PM ET
All the Sens fans on HF boards talking about trying to trade Phaneuf. They'll throw in a pick or reason salary. They'd even look to buy him out. Shame Melnyk doesn't have the funds for either option.
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: (frank) those orbs, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 27 @ 10:30 PM ET
if they retain the max amount allowed im sure phaneuf could be moved. he's still a decent player, he's just really overpaid
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 27 @ 11:21 PM ET
if they retain the max amount allowed im sure phaneuf could be moved. he's still a decent player, he's just really overpaid
- daeth

Phaneuf at 50% for Polak and a 3rd?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Liljegren tanked to get the Leafs
Joined: 07.14.2011

Dec 28 @ 1:19 AM ET
Phaneuf at 50% for Polak and a 3rd?
- Feeling Glucky?

(frank) that noise.

That contract is an anchor. Even at 50%. He just can't keep up anymore. I'd much rather keep Polak
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