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daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Which is really strange because so many other Leaf posters would have found the time otherwise. I don't blame them for not posting rather I blame them for constantly bashing Sens fans when they don't post immediately following a Leafs win/Sens loss.
- golfingsince

I'm taking a poop and this is the only time I will have to post in here in between meetings so I'll keep this short.

You really don't get the bit.
golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
I'm taking a poop and this is the only time I will have to post in here in between meetings so I'll keep this short.

You really don't get the bit.

- daeth

Yes, it's a failure to understand by the 3rd party fanbases that make this thread so retarded.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Oct 22 @ 6:32 PM ET
Yes, it's a failure to understand by the 3rd party fanbases that make this thread so retarded.
- golfingsince

oh, so you DO understand
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 22 @ 7:03 PM ET
oh, so you DO understand
- twiztedmike


“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad."
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.”

twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Oct 22 @ 7:06 PM ET
“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad."
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.”

- spatso



pretty much, spatsy
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 22 @ 9:09 PM ET
Which is really strange because so many other Leaf posters would have found the time otherwise. I don't blame them for not posting rather I blame them for constantly bashing Sens fans when they don't post immediately following a Leafs win/Sens loss.
- golfingsince



Leafs lose and you’re back from under your rock.
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: M'OUT
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 22 @ 9:11 PM ET


Leafs lose and you’re back from under your rock.

- Feeling Glucky?

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: you cant say Lehner is a bumb -BigDog912
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 22 @ 9:13 PM ET
Less stupid Leafs/Sens talk

More Melissa O'Neil
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: M'OUT
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 22 @ 9:14 PM ET
Less stupid Leafs/Sens talk

More Melissa O'Neil

- Aetherial

dope outfit
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 22 @ 9:15 PM ET

- Nucker101

Why are you here?

I was going to say mean things about the Canucks and now I just feel bad.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 22 @ 9:15 PM ET
Less stupid Leafs/Sens talk

More Melissa O'Neil

- Aetherial


I can't wait for my internet to come back up so i can see this
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: they are going to add the two best players outside the nhl (chabot and white) -spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 22 @ 9:16 PM ET
“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad."
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.”

- spatso


Even rarer than a hit by ek on a rumor.


A good post by spatso
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: M'OUT
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 22 @ 9:16 PM ET
Why are you here?

I was going to say mean things about the Canucks and now I just feel bad.

- Feeling Glucky?



Whatever you're gonna say, I've probably said worse so go ahead.

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Oct 22 @ 9:57 PM ET
Las Vegas Golden Knights ......... second best record in the NHL (.857)....... But leafs are still the Vegas odds best bet to win the Cup???
- D0PPELGANGER

They know dire hards will put the money down now so they prop their odds. They do it with the Habs sometimes too.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: 966 pages of no one caring, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Oct 22 @ 10:00 PM ET
I'm taking a poop and this is the only time I will have to post in here in between meetings so I'll keep this short.

You really don't get the bit.

- daeth

It would be great if it were truly a bit but after 1000 pages of it still going on.....

top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Oct 22 @ 10:06 PM ET
Man are Toronto,s forwards scary good ,you cant take a shift off against them or its in your net .....Happy about the win ,but its OCT ......Our team is playing well and should be in the playoffs... After that who knows
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 23 @ 6:07 AM ET


Whatever you're gonna say, I've probably said worse so go ahead.

- Nucker101

You made it weird.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 23 @ 7:54 AM ET
I do not enjoy how the Ottawa Senators play hockey
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 23 @ 8:05 AM ET
Watched replay of Leafs/Sens game last night. I had not seen it before. Saturday night I was only able to listen to the radio broadcast.

You watch differently when you already know the outcome.

For the first two periods, Leaf forwards played a strong defensive game. Remember, Sens only scored goals 2 and 3 in the last few minutes of the 2nd period.

In the 3rd period the Leaf forwards came out in full offensive mode and were highly effective. But they gave up wave after wave of scoring chances to the Sens on the counter attack.

Do the Leafs put together a huge package in order to trade for a #1 D? If the Canadiens go into rebuild mode, do the Leafs pursue a deal for Shea Weber?

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 23 @ 8:14 AM ET
I do not enjoy how the Ottawa Senators play hockey
- senstroll


There are games that can be boring, when both teams are playing a defensive style......... 1 - 3 - 1, the trap or whatever ...... and both teams waiting to capitalize on the mistakes of their opponent.

Every team has to play a system, either to the strengths of the existing players, or by acquiring players that are seen as "good parts" to the existing system implemented by the coaching staff........and or a combination of the both.

leafs have drafted players with their offense/skill/ speed first system in mind, and use that system............... it may be more enjoyable to watch during the regular season, but when the playoffs begin, we all know that teams intensify their defensive side of the game, and if a team, like the Senators who play a defensive style all season, it can be an advantage ........... and we saw last spring just how far their system took them ................ all the way to games seven (double overtime) of the ECFs.

If the leafs ever find a way to play a good defensive system, in addition to their offensive tendencies .... they may well find themselves going much deeper in the playoffs than last spring.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 23 @ 8:14 AM ET
I do not enjoy how the Ottawa Senators play hockey
- senstroll



You never really understand the Sens game until you focus on the genius of Karlsson. He begins the counter attack from the moment he touches the puck in his own end zone.

The Sens are the team of last year's playoff run. For most of the game they were able to use their speed far more efficiently than the Leafs. Karlsson had a steady game, a playoff type game for him. He had 3 points on the night.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 23 @ 8:15 AM ET
There are games that can be boring, when both teams are playing a defensive style......... 1 - 3 - 1, the trap or whatever ...... and both teams waiting to capitalize on the mistakes of their opponent.

Every team has to play a system, either to the strengths of the existing players, or by acquiring players that are seen as "good parts" to the existing system implemented by the coaching staff........and or a combination of the both.

leafs have drafted players with their offense/skill/ speed first system in mind, and use that system............... it may be more enjoyable to watch during the regular season, but when the playoffs begin, we all know that teams intensify their defensive side of the game, and if a team, like the Senators who play a defensive style all season, it can be an advantage ........... and we saw last spring just how far their system took them ................ all the way to games seven (double overtime) of the ECFs.

If the leafs ever find a way to play a good defensive system, in addition to their offensive tendencies .... they may well find themselves going much deeper in the playoffs than last spring.

- D0PPELGANGER



I like the Leafs style and I don't think they should change. By playing an up tempo offensive game they take the focus off of their vulnerable D. If they go to a more defensive style they would only put more pressure on their own back end. They need a real #1 Dman or at least a solid #2 that can support Rielly.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 23 @ 8:17 AM ET
Watched replay of Leafs/Sens game last night. I had not seen it before. Saturday night I was only able to listen to the radio broadcast.

You watch differently when you already know the outcome.

For the first two periods, Leaf forwards played a strong defensive game. Remember, Sens only scored goals 2 and 3 in the last few minutes of the 2nd period.

In the 3rd period the Leaf forwards came out in full offensive mode and were highly effective. But they gave up wave after wave of scoring chances to the Sens on the counter attack.

Do the Leafs put together a huge package in order to trade for a #1 D? If the Canadiens go into rebuild mode, do the Leafs pursue a deal for Shea Weber?

- spatso





Don't think there would be space under the Cap for Weber ........... or they would have to trade away to much in order to acquire him .................. will not happen.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 23 @ 8:22 AM ET
Watched replay of Leafs/Sens game last night. I had not seen it before. Saturday night I was only able to listen to the radio broadcast.

You watch differently when you already know the outcome.

For the first two periods, Leaf forwards played a strong defensive game. Remember, Sens only scored goals 2 and 3 in the last few minutes of the 2nd period.

In the 3rd period the Leaf forwards came out in full offensive mode and were highly effective. But they gave up wave after wave of scoring chances to the Sens on the counter attack.

Do the Leafs put together a huge package in order to trade for a #1 D? If the Canadiens go into rebuild mode, do the Leafs pursue a deal for Shea Weber?

- spatso


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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 23 @ 8:24 AM ET
Don't think there would be space under the Cap for Weber ........... or they would have to trade away to much in order to acquire him .................. will not happen.
- D0PPELGANGER


I think you are correct in the specific but the principle of the general still applies. Over the next 18 months the Leafs need to lock in some big salaries up front, they may need to rejig their salary alignment to ensure they do not have a long term problem of inadequate defensive support.

Saturday night the Sens forwards shredded the Leaf defence using their speed to go around them and on several occasions to split the middle and attack the net.
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