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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 12 @ 9:53 AM ET
Hardly. Suppose you want to say superior goaltending is not a defensive asset.
- spatso


Fleury played more games than murray and wasn't great.

Give your head a shake. Crosby and malkin are why the pens won, dumbass.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 12 @ 10:28 AM ET
Fleury played more games than murray and wasn't great.

Give your head a shake. Crosby and malkin are why the pens won, dumbass.

- Tumbleweed



Yeah ........ Murray's 1.77 GAA and his .937 Sv%, in 11 games, played no factor in their playoff run.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 12 @ 10:56 AM ET
Yeah ........ Murray's 1.77 GAA and his .937 Sv%, in 11 games, played no factor in their playoff run.
- D0PPELGANGER


pens did not have the best goaltending in the playoffs, as your special needs friend insists.

pens had the best goaltending for 11 out of 26 games.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 11:05 AM ET
a statsy article on the Sens

Going to be a fun Season. Sens will need good season Anderson to show up

https://theathletic.com/1...ing-the-front-of-the-net/


According to Corsica.Hockey’s five-on-five database, 90 teams since the start of the 2007-08 season (including last season's Senators) have finished the regular season at sub-50 percent in Corsi For (percentage of total shot attempts), Fenwick For (percentage of total unblocked shot attempts), Goals For (percentage of total goals scored) and Expected Goals For (percentage of expected total goals for).

Of those 90 teams, only 12 of them reached the post-season, and of those 12 teams, only five clinched a playoff spot the following season.

Four of those five instances involved the Montreal Canadiens (2007-08, 2008-09, 2009-10, 2013-14) and the other was the 2007-08 Philadelphia Flyers.

What immediately stands out for those Canadiens teams is their goaltender: Carey Price is arguably the greatest goaltender of this generation. According to Corsica, of the goalies who have played 14,000 minutes five-on-five minutes since 2007-08, only Tuukka Rask has a higher save percentage (93.08) than Price’s 92.98.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
While I agree that the Leafs defense is their achilles heel,

The Leafs fired FIFTY shots at Schneider and outshot the Devils 50-31. That is not superior defensive play, sorry.

yeah Gardiner was an abomination last night at both ends of the ice.

Devils scored two goals off deflections and then off the post. Meanwhile Schneider made more saves than any other game of his career.

Leafs needed a wakeup call, for sure, but 8-10 times that game goes the other way. I was kind of glad to see the loss. As long as they don't follow it up with another stinker in Montreal.

... we always suck against Montreal though.

- Aetherial

While it's just one game, last night showed something important for the Leafs... it doesn't matter if your depth can wreck an opponents defense, if you wind up against a hot goalie. Games like that, you need to be able to keep the puck out of your net too.

Most nights, against most opponents, the Leafs win last night's game, even with all their miscues. If the Leafs can tighten it up on the back-end - whether it be through following the system more strictly, or acquiring another top pairing guy... they'll be a truly elite team, and likely a cup favourite.

As the team stands, I think they have a cup run in them, if they get a lucky draw in opponents. If they face a team like NJ, that might stop them, but if they face off against the less offensively inclined, more defensive teams, they won't have much problem wearing them down... especially over a 7 game series, where fewer whistles means a faster pace.

But facing another fast, dangerous team with amazing goaltending... that probably won't end well.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
While it's just one game, last night showed something important for the Leafs... it doesn't matter if your depth can wreck an opponents defense, if you wind up against a hot goalie. Games like that, you need to be able to keep the puck out of your net too.

Most nights, against most opponents, the Leafs win last night's game, even with all their miscues. If the Leafs can tighten it up on the back-end - whether it be through following the system more strictly, or acquiring another top pairing guy... they'll be a truly elite team, and likely a cup favourite.

As the team stands, I think they have a cup run in them, if they get a lucky draw in opponents. If they face a team like NJ, that might stop them, but if they face off against the less offensively inclined, more defensive teams, they won't have much problem wearing them down... especially over a 7 game series, where fewer whistles means a faster pace.

But facing another fast, dangerous team with amazing goaltending... that probably won't end well.

- Feeling Glucky?


Sports are like that, you can win 23 games in a row like the Clevelands and be a favorite and be beat out by a team that is one season into a rebuild.

A hot goalie can end a season. or you can get some lucky matchups and make it to the conference finals
daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
Sports are like that, you can win 23 games in a row like the Clevelands and be a favorite and be beat out by a team that is one season into a rebuild.

A hot goalie can end a season. or you can get some lucky matchups and make it to the conference finals

- senstroll

suck it edwin
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 11:30 AM ET
suck it edwin
- daeth


I was hoping they would win
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: you cant say Lehner is a bumb -BigDog912
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
Yeah, Hennrique came to the defense of the little Swedish player who was steam rolled by the leafs "tough guy" who had at least a fifty pound advantage.

It was not nessasary from my POV, but perhaps something happened earlier in the game, as I just caught the last five minutes.

- D0PPELGANGER


More likely just the Leafs whole team lost their cool towards the end of the game. 47 Saves and a handful of posts, a couple deflections banking in off posts the other way... I am guessing the entire team was just pissed off.

daeth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: when it's a 3 taco-bell town, maybe they'll be ready, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
I was hoping they would win
- senstroll

i dont like the yanks but i'm hating the indians more right now. it was an acceptable result.
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 12:45 PM ET
i dont like the yanks but i'm hating the indians more right now. it was an acceptable result.
- daeth


hate yanks
like edwin

go 'stros

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: you cant say Lehner is a bumb -BigDog912
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 12 @ 12:48 PM ET
hate yanks
like edwin

go 'stros

- senstroll


Astros has a lot of fans in the GTA these days I think
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 1:26 PM ET
Astros has a lot of fans in the GTA these days I think
- Aetherial


I miss the Jays in the playoffs
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 12 @ 2:52 PM ET
More likely just the Leafs whole team lost their cool towards the end of the game. 47 Saves and a handful of posts, a couple deflections banking in off posts the other way... I am guessing the entire team was just pissed off.
- Aetherial




But a 220 pound leafs "Tough Guy" running a 170 pound 18 year old Swedish rookie .......... that's just not right.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 12 @ 2:59 PM ET
But a 220 pound leafs "Tough Guy" running a 170 pound 18 year old Swedish rookie .......... that's just not right.
- D0PPELGANGER



It was a clean hit, why the complaining?
senstroll
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 3:01 PM ET
But a 220 pound leafs "Tough Guy" running a 170 pound 18 year old Swedish rookie .......... that's just not right.
- D0PPELGANGER


Martin is a waste of a Roster spot..there are better players the leafs can use.. but Babs likes his game ..that includes stuff like that
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 12 @ 3:10 PM ET
But a 220 pound leafs "Tough Guy" running a 170 pound 18 year old Swedish rookie .......... that's just not right.
- D0PPELGANGER


Should players ask other players for their ID cards before hitting them?


It's the NHL. People hit and get hit.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Keller and Strome could both be better than Tavares. jimmy troller
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 12 @ 3:40 PM ET
It was a clean hit, why the complaining?
- burn


apparently it's not fair to use your size to your advantage.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 12 @ 3:58 PM ET
hey guys. game sucked last night. I'm having wifi issues. wish i could talk about the sens win and leafs loss. ill be back when my wifi is fixed either after a sens loss or leaf win.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:01 PM ET
apparently it's not fair to use your size to your advantage.
- Tumbleweed


its also irrelevant if you out score your opponents. apparently


oh nooo im cutting out...
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:20 PM ET
hey guys. game sucked last night. I'm having wifi issues. wish i could talk about the sens win and leafs loss. ill be back when my wifi is fixed either after a sens loss or leaf win.
- systemtool


Not bad!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Boyle > Marleau :dopes, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:33 PM ET
hey guys. game sucked last night. I'm having wifi issues. wish i could talk about the sens win and leafs loss. ill be back when my wifi is fixed either after a sens loss or leaf win.
- systemtool



😂
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 12 @ 4:35 PM ET
Not bad!
- spatso


*hides
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: you cant say Lehner is a bumb -BigDog912
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 12 @ 5:34 PM ET
its also irrelevant if you out score your opponents. apparently


oh nooo im cutting out...

- systemtool


golfingsince
Location: The losers tonight are the people.-QP
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 12 @ 7:19 PM ET
Goalie who saves like 50 shots, lots of good chances stole the game.... Especially when is team only shot like 30
- burn

They won 6-3, give it a rest.
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