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Brandon Smillie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.07.2017

Friday @ 7:37 PM ET
Brandon Smillie: The 5th Overall Pick: Zayne Parekh
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Friday @ 9:17 PM ET
I'd be happy with that if there's a deal in place to trade/package Reinbacher for a forward.

Harris/Wifi/Struble won't get you the top end forward this team needs.

So it comes down to who has the highest ceiling, and the highest probability of reaching that ceiling, Reinbacher or Parekh.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Friday @ 10:24 PM ET
brandon, hello.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Saturday @ 12:03 AM ET
Brandon Smillie: The 5th Overall Pick: Zayne Parekh
- Brandon Smillie


I just do not see the Habs passing on a forward prospect at the draft, given the weakness in top 6 depth.

But who knows, expect the unexpected with HuGo.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Saturday @ 1:52 AM ET
still packin'!
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Saturday @ 3:45 AM ET
BPA always

if its not a forward, its not a forward
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Saturday @ 7:45 AM ET
in that scenario...bpa would be SamRichardinson the LD who is going to be a monster on D....or you take a gamble on Sennecke if you think your player development leadership can do it...omg the auto correct on this site is out of control....btw..won't let me spell the defensmans name correctly...
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Saturday @ 8:16 AM ET
I'd be happy with that if there's a deal in place to trade/package Reinbacher for a forward.

Harris/Wifi/Struble won't get you the top end forward this team needs.

So it comes down to who has the highest ceiling, and the highest probability of reaching that ceiling, Reinbacher or Parekh.

- hunglikeapuck

Parekh had a dissappointing playoff.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Saturday @ 9:13 AM ET
Parekh had a dissappointing playoff.
- LFS
you're disappointing, you are
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Saturday @ 9:56 AM ET
BPA always

if its not a forward, its not a forward

- deadpoulet




"BPA" doesn't mean a whole lot where you're drafting 5th and there's barely any consensus after the first 2 picks
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Saturday @ 10:06 AM ET
"BPA" doesn't mean a whole lot where you're drafting 5th and there's barely any consensus after the first 2 picks
- Pat1993


That is the job of your scouting department to determine.

There is always a BPA, the margins might be small, but they are ranked internally regardless.*
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Saturday @ 10:08 AM ET
That is the job of your scouting department to determine.

There is always a BPA, the margins might be small, but they are ranked internally regardless.*

- Mashadar



what I mean is it'll be the BPA according to the habs organization, and not necessarily for every other team, which kinda defeats the purpose of the concept imo.
Brandon Smillie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.07.2017

Saturday @ 10:15 AM ET
brandon, hello.
- kicksave856


Bonjour
Brandon Smillie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.07.2017

Saturday @ 10:16 AM ET
I just do not see the Habs passing on a forward prospect at the draft, given the weakness in top 6 depth.

But who knows, expect the unexpected with HuGo.

- Mashadar


Just speculating. The Memorial Cup likely pushed Parekh up a bit in this draft. Will speculate a F next blog.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Saturday @ 10:19 AM ET
what I mean is it'll be the BPA according to the habs organization, and not necessarily for every other team, which kinda defeats the purpose of the concept imo.
- Pat1993


But shouldn't that be the way?

BPA is based on what your list say, which may be reflective of the "generic" list of players or significantly different, but there are always a few surprises. Drafting Slaf and Reinbacher were not considered the "consensus" BPA in general, but they were for the Habs.

Pick the BPA, not for need at this point, they can (eventually) move assets to fill in other spots down the road.

I want them to pick a forward, general consensus is the Habs will pick a forward, Hughes said he expects to pick a forward... but if both Demidov and Lidstrom are taken, then there is a really good D sitting right at their pick.

Will be interesting.

Less than 3 weeks to find out.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Saturday @ 10:20 AM ET
Just speculating. The Memorial Cup likely pushed Parekh up a bit in this draft. Will speculate a F next blog.
- Brandon Smillie


If they do pick a D, I do not think it will be Parekh.

But if both Demidov and Lidstrom are taken, will be interesting to see what the Habs do given a stud D is sitting out there.

Still think they go 99.99999% with a forward.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Saturday @ 10:24 AM ET
"BPA" doesn't mean a whole lot where you're drafting 5th and there's barely any consensus after the first 2 picks
- Pat1993

ça veut pas dire qu'il y a pas de meilleurs joueurs qu pourraient être disponibles au 5e rang

KK a été repêché parce que tout le monde voulait un centre, c'était un move cave
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Saturday @ 10:25 AM ET
But shouldn't that be the way?

BPA is based on what your list say, which may be reflective of the "generic" list of players or significantly different, but there are always a few surprises. Drafting Slaf and Reinbacher were not considered the "consensus" BPA in general, but they were for the Habs.

Pick the BPA, not for need at this point, they can (eventually) move assets to fill in other spots down the road.

I want them to pick a forward, general consensus is the Habs will pick a forward, Hughes said he expects to pick a forward... but if both Demidov and Lidstrom are taken, then there is a really good D sitting right at their pick.

Will be interesting.

Less than 3 weeks to find out.

- Mashadar



I still find it doesn't really mean anything, especially if you're comparing a forward with a defensemen. I get that you might see one as having a bit more upside than the other, but you're looking at such different aspects of the game for both positions that determining who is the "best player" between both is getting pretty random.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Saturday @ 10:25 AM ET
That is the job of your scouting department to determine.

There is always a BPA, the margins might be small, but they are ranked internally regardless.*

- Mashadar

this, thank you
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Saturday @ 10:29 AM ET
I still find it doesn't really mean anything, especially if you're comparing a forward with a defensemen. I get that you might see one as having a bit more upside than the other, but you're looking at such different aspects of the game for both positions that determining who is the "best player" between both is getting pretty random.
- Pat1993


Shea Weber or Lars Eller? Not sure about your argument defenseman vs forward, again this is their job to do this. Maybe you cant do it but you dont have to, they do

never draft a need, go with BPA
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Saturday @ 10:30 AM ET
ça veut pas dire qu'il y a pas de meilleurs joueurs qu pourraient être disponibles au 5e rang

KK a été repêché parce que tout le monde voulait un centre, c'était un move cave

- deadpoulet


dans le fond repêcher le "meilleur joueur disponible", ça signifie de pas faire un move cave de même simplement pour combler un besoin, ce qui est quand même une évidence en soi.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Saturday @ 10:31 AM ET
Shea Weber or Lars Eller? Not sure about your argument defenseman vs forward, again this is their job to do this. Maybe you cant do it but you dont have to, they do

never draft a need, go with BPA

- deadpoulet



we're talking about comparing 2 players among the top five, of course if you're looking at those guys in the example you're giving it becomes obvious.


edit: it's also proof that hindsight is 20/20, since Eller and Weber were drafted respectively 13th and 49th overall.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Saturday @ 10:36 AM ET
we're talking about comparing 2 players among the top five, of course if you're looking at those guys in the example you're giving it becomes obvious.
- Pat1993


Lars Eller était un choix de première ronde, Shea Weber en deuxième. Tu as la carrière pour juger, pas les recruteurs. Ya rien d'évident la-dedans, mais ce qui devrait être évident c'est que tu établis une liste des joueurs que tu aimes le plus pis cette liste ne devrait pas être basée sur tes besoins internes, mais sur le talent disponible au repêchage. Ce n'est pas si compliqué ce que moi et Mash ont dit.
The Judge
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 08.30.2021

Saturday @ 10:38 AM ET
we're talking about comparing 2 players among the top five, of course if you're looking at those guys in the example you're giving it becomes obvious.


edit: it's also proof that hindsight is 20/20, since Eller and Weber were drafted respectively 13th and 49th overall.

- Pat1993



You pick l'harceleur everytime!
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Saturday @ 10:39 AM ET
Lars Eller était un choix de première ronde, Shea Weber en deuxième. Tu as la carrière pour juger, pas les recruteurs. Ya rien d'évident la-dedans, mais ce qui devrait être évident c'est que tu établis une liste des joeurs que tu aimes le plus pis cette liste ne devrait pas être basée sur tes besoins internes, mais sur le talent disponible au repêchage. Ce n'est pas si compliqué ce que moi et Mash ont dit.
- deadpoulet



je trouve pas que c'est compliqué, au contraire, je trouve simplement que la notion du "BPA" veut pas vraiment dire grand chose.
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