Sens Writer: Senators head to Sweden hoping to regain their winning form

Your write-ups are better every time.

Great overview of what they're facing.

There's nothing to add positive or negative.
BUT
Could you include injury updates even anything you may have heard in your updates?

https://www.tsn.ca/hockey...am-under-appeal-1.2035662


Ok but but.
The POLICE report?
Formenton?

what are they appealing? What was in the report from the independent people?

Your write-ups are better every time.

Great overview of what they're facing.

There's nothing to add positive or negative.
BUT
Could you include injury updates even anything you may have heard in your updates?
- Octavarium

Spatso out 2 weeks with a broken vagina.

Systemtool: So nice to see that you still miss me. It is a long time since I jumped ship and abandoned the perpetual disappointment from living as a Leaf fan.

Vagina is fine. Actually struggling with torn rotator cuff. But, have made some great progress in last couple weeks. Caused me wicked problems in trying to use a keyboard for about a month.

https://www.tsn.ca/hockey-canada/hockey-canada-findings-of-investigation-into-2018-canada-junior-team-under-appeal-1.2035662


Ok but but.
The POLICE report?
Formenton?

what are they appealing? What was in the report from the independent people?
- Octavarium

Proceedings including the appeal process have been classified as "in camera."

In camera (Latin: "in a chamber") is a legal term that means in private.

So, everyone engaged in the appeal process is obliged to keep the proceedings secret. Good chance we will ultimately receive a report that announces the sanctions (punishment) but does not provide any details on the actual allegations of misconduct.

This is being characterized as an in-camera "appeal process." So, we can only assume that the intended sanctions have already been made known to the players who are affected by the enquiry.

Good write-up.

Just a couple of points .....
1) Thank god the Sens never took all of the fan's advice and traded Joseph + a first round pick (or any pick) to clear cap space for Pinto
2) I expect we'll see Korpisalo in net vs Detroit. He is clearly established as Ottawa's #1 goalie at this point and DJ Smith seems to show no relutance in letting him run with it. In fact it would not surprise me that if Korpisalo plays extremely well and wins vs Detroit, that DJ follows up and plays him vs Minnesota. I know its in Sweden, and this is Forsberg's own country .... but feelings be damned. He has sucked this year, and Ottawa needs wins. Leave the sentimentality at home.

Systemtool: So nice to see that you still miss me. It is a long time since I jumped ship and abandoned the perpetual disappointment from living as a Leaf fan.

Vagina is fine. Actually struggling with torn rotator cuff. But, have made some great progress in last couple weeks. Caused me wicked problems in trying to use a keyboard for about a month.
- spatso

I'm sure the disappointment as a Sens fan is a much better situation. It's like a woman bleaching her mustache and thinking they're in a better place.

Glad you're getting better though.

I'm sure the disappointment as a Sens fan is a much better situation. It's like a woman bleaching her mustache and thinking they're in a better place.

Glad you're getting better though.
- systemtool

Oh no! Sens fans are very different than Leaf fans.

Leaf fans start every pre-season game, every regular season game and every playoff game in the belief that this is just the next first step towards winning the Stanley Cup. It is a matter of sacred destiny.

Sens fans are far more pragmatic. We are convinced we are destined to lose and we are going to screw it up because of a thousand different reasons. We remind ourselves every day of everything that can go wrong. Yet, the Sens have had remarkable success during the period that I have drifted from being an all out Leaf fan to becoming a passionate and proud Sens fan.

Unlike the Leafs, the Sens have won multiple playoff rounds, they have made it into the Conference finals and played in a Stanley Cup final during my transition over into becoming an Ottawa booster.

I know Leaf fans still miss me and regret my departure. But, I am deeply content with my Sens and hopeful that this is the year that we get back on track and make a solid playoff run. As you know I carry no hostility towards the Leafs. However, I sometimes become impatient with the disillusioned rhetoric.

Good start for the Sens so far, although Detroit is outshooting them 25-15. Korpisalo appears to be on his game today ...... knock on wood.

No way a coach or team should allow 4-0 down. F'ing B.s! Bag skate these spoiled players and get their defense + system better !!!!!!!

DJ will be gone if Sens loose this game

Oh no! Sens fans are very different than Leaf fans.

Leaf fans start every pre-season game, every regular season game and every playoff game in the belief that this is just the next first step towards winning the Stanley Cup. It is a matter of sacred destiny.

Sens fans are far more pragmatic. We are convinced we are destined to lose and we are going to screw it up because of a thousand different reasons. We remind ourselves every day of everything that can go wrong. Yet, the Sens have had remarkable success during the period that I have drifted from being an all out Leaf fan to becoming a passionate and proud Sens fan.

Unlike the Leafs, the Sens have won multiple playoff rounds, they have made it into the Conference finals and played in a Stanley Cup final during my transition over into becoming an Ottawa booster.

I know Leaf fans still miss me and regret my departure. But, I am deeply content with my Sens and hopeful that this is the year that we get back on track and make a solid playoff run. As you know I carry no hostility towards the Leafs. However, I sometimes become impatient with the disillusioned rhetoric.
- spatso

I skimmed through this and came to the same conclusion I always do after not reading the majority of your nonsensical drivel. you're a delusional idiot in full denial and something that requires pity rather than being laughed at.


You switched teams and went from bad to worse and no amount of denial will change your pathetic tactics, antics and current situation. Enjoy the 4 goal blown lead. Good day you twit.

Oh no! Sens fans are very different than Leaf fans.....

Unlike the Leafs, the Sens have won multiple playoff rounds, they have made it into the Conference finals and played in a Stanley Cup final during my transition over into becoming an Ottawa booster.
- spatso

I skimmed through this and came to the same conclusion I always do after not reading the majority of your nonsensical drivel. you're a delusional idiot in full denial and something that requires pity rather than being laughed at.


You switched teams and went from bad to worse and no amount of denial will change your pathetic tactics, antics and current situation. Enjoy the 4 goal blown lead. Good day you twit.
- systemtool

This all could be avoided by not coming to the Sens thread...

Oh wow. Timmy, whatagoal!

Another amazing hand eye coordination goal by Stu.

But this team makes nothing easy for themselves. They sure can score goals but there is no system in place.

Well, that was just about the most bizarre game I've seen the Senators play in quite some time. The first period saw more than a few things go their way en route to a 4-0 lead, but that sure changed in the second period when it ended 4-4. Of course, the TSN commentators made seemingly no attempt to notice that 2 of the Red Wings' goals were utter horse$hit, and had nothing to do with the play of Korpisalo. And in defence of the Senators, they definitely came out stronger in the 3rd period despite the blown lead, put up a 12-5 shot advantage, and got the win in OT.

This isn't to say there aren't a lot of things they need to improve on, especially going back to look at the 2nd period. But I give them credit for shifting the momentum back into their favour, making sure they didn't let it turn into a full collapse, securing the 1 point by getting the game to OT, and then finding a way to make it 2 points. Good teams find ways to win, and it's not always pretty. And they've now found a way to claw back to a 7-7-0 record, despite this being one of the uglier wins they're likely to have this season.

Plus, I mean that OT goal by Stutzle... god damn.

Well, that was just about the most bizarre game I've seen the Senators play in quite some time. The first period saw more than a few things go their way en route to a 4-0 lead, but that sure changed in the second period when it ended 4-4. Of course, the TSN commentators made seemingly no attempt to notice that 2 of the Red Wings' goals were utter horse$hit, and had nothing to do with the play of Korpisalo. And in defence of the Senators, they definitely came out stronger in the 3rd period despite the blown lead, put up a 12-5 shot advantage, and got the win in OT.

This isn't to say there aren't a lot of things they need to improve on, especially going back to look at the 2nd period. But I give them credit for shifting the momentum back into their favour, making sure they didn't let it turn into a full collapse, securing the 1 point by getting the game to OT, and then finding a way to make it 2 points. Good teams find ways to win, and it's not always pretty. And they've now found a way to claw back to a 7-7-0 record, despite this being one of the uglier wins they're likely to have this season.

Plus, I mean that OT goal by Stutzle... god damn.
- khawk

A+

It was highly entertaining.

This was a character win.

It will help once the playoffs start.

A+

It was highly entertaining.

This was a character win.

It will help once the playoffs start.
- spatso

I agree it was a big win but this team will NOT make the playoffs with DJ Smith as coach. It's not possible.

Not everything is on the coach, but nothing will improve to a higher level until there's a new coach. Also Norris and Chabot need to be examined. 8M players need to be BIG time contributors in all 3 zones

There was some interesting trade discussion a few days ago on the TSN "Coming In Hot" panel. The main point was the extent to which the stability of the top-4D appears to be over-reliant on Artem Zub. I don't think it's unfair to suggest that the early results of the Chabot-Chychrun pairing have been unimpressive, especially in terms of defensive coverage. And despite solid efforts from Hamonic and Bernard-Docker, neither is a competent full-time top-4 RHD. The injury to Chabot has also given Chychrun and Sanderson the opportunity to prove their respective worth as top-4 LHD, and both have responded in spades. In fact, both are putting up offensive numbers beyond anything Chabot has achieved in his entire career.

Now factor in the team's salary cap structure next summer, when Sanderson's AAV will jump to >$8M, Chychrun will enter the final year of his $4.6M AAV deal, and Brannstrom will be an RFA looking for an increase on his $2.0M AAV deal. There's also the reality that Chabot will start making $10M in real $$$ next year, and has M-NTC that activates on July 1st, 2024. When you then consider that Chabot appears to be the least effective of the big-3D in terms of both defensive and offensive ability, and the fact that GM Pierre Dorion is no longer making roster decisions, it becomes a serious question as to why they shouldn't consider a Chabot trade.

The question, of course, is what trade would return the correct assets to help the Senators win games? The issue is further complicated if one of the major assets returned needs to be an established top-4 RHD, because any team looking for a major D addition like Chabot isn't going to want to give up D in return. But I could certainly see some potential 3-team trade options that could work... like maybe a deal built around Chabot to PHI, Dumba/Laughton to OTT, and a 1st Round Pick to ARI.

I think its way to early to talk about trading Chabot. You say his numbers have never been as good as Sanderson and Chychrun (but we are assuming they continue at this pace, plus for the first time in 5 years we actually have some offensive depth on the blue line). Unlike previous years where Chabot had to carry the load and it was easy for teams to just target him. Teams can't do that know. Plus, this year, Chabot is playing on his other side defence. How would Chychrun look it he had to play on his other side? ..... or Sanderson.
Secondly .... Dumba .... really? Hugely overrated. Not a top 4 d-man. His numbers are not great and on the last year of his deal..... Passssss!
Laughton .... a 3rd line guy at best. Maybe can move up a line for the short term if injuries to others.

Plus let's also look at Senator history. Chychrun, Zub, and Chabot all have had injuries over the past few seasons. You don't trade away depth.

It always seems that Ottawa fans want their whipping boy to rail against and drive out of town. They never seem happy until they get one. I guess Chabot is becoming that player.

Ahhh it's never too early to start talking trades. Chabot is a good player, but on this lineup he's the weakest link at LD and he's about to get more difficult to move, it makes sense to speculate. Dumba has played pretty miserable this year, I'm still hoping for the second coming of Dylan Demelo.

lets not kid ourselves here, OTT blew a 4-0 lead, granted 2 of the goals were BS bounces (do the hockey gods have a beef with OTT?) they did all they could not to lose in regulation and got lucky on that 5th goal.

better chance SJS make the playoffs this yer than Sens, they defend 5 on5 like they are are the PK, they wait for the other team shoot and hope to gain possession of the puck, they will never make the playoffs playing like that

hell of a game by forsberg, he needs to keep playing like that