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HockeyBuzz
Location: Brampton
Joined: 08.09.2006

Aug 22 @ 12:19 PM ET
Is He Worth It? Hagel signs with the Lightning (8 years, $6.5M AAV) Tampa gave up a lot to get Havel, and they definitely see him as part of their future….but is a 6.5 AAV worth it?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
Is He Worth It? Hagel signs with the Lightning (8 years, $6.5M AAV)

Tampa gave up a lot to get Havel, and they definitely see him as part of their future….but is a 6.5 AAV worth it?

- HockeyBuzz

Who is Havel?

MLew65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: hamburg, NY
Joined: 01.23.2013

Aug 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
Wasn’t he originally a Sabres prospect?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Aug 22 @ 2:23 PM ET
Who is Havel?
- homiedclown

He is worth $6.9 😁
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 22 @ 3:07 PM ET
Wasn’t he originally a Sabres prospect?
- MLew65

Yes.



ThatDarnCat
Location: In the control group
Joined: 04.01.2010

Aug 22 @ 3:13 PM ET
Who is Havel?
- homiedclown


Václav...

served as the last president of Czechoslovakia from 1989 until 1992.

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NSco1996
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Downers Grove, IL
Joined: 09.06.2015

Aug 22 @ 3:26 PM ET
“Havel”
is worth it, he’s underrated but i hate that he’s staying in Tampa
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Aug 22 @ 4:06 PM ET
Tampa totally out of their minds
jaygeeforty
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Clearwater, FL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Aug 22 @ 4:22 PM ET
The risk isn't so much on this deal, the risk comes with hoping the salary cap actually expands like its supposed to in the next couple of years.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 22 @ 7:46 PM ET
Is He Worth It? Hagel signs with the Lightning (8 years, $6.5M AAV)

Tampa gave up a lot to get Havel, and they definitely see him as part of their future….but is a 6.5 AAV worth it?

- HockeyBuzz


Havel is not worth $6.5.

Hagel might be.

Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 22 @ 7:53 PM ET
Who is Havel?
- homiedclown

Knight in the Undead Burg. Wields a heavy armor and a club made from a dragon’s tooth.

Nerd alert.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Aug 22 @ 10:40 PM ET
Havel isn’t as good as Hagel. And neither is worth 6.5 mill
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Aug 22 @ 10:42 PM ET
The risk isn't so much on this deal, the risk comes with hoping the salary cap actually expands like its supposed to in the next couple of years.
- jaygeeforty


That’s dumber than spelling the guys name wrong. Yeah let’s over pay the guy with the hopes the cap goes way up and it eventually looks like a decent deal 🙄
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 23 @ 7:33 AM ET
That’s dumber than spelling the guys name wrong. Yeah let’s over pay the guy with the hopes the cap goes way up and it eventually looks like a decent deal 🙄
- BringNYIhome


So, locking in a 25 year old who has now proven to be able to produce at about a 0.7PPG pace, play in all situations, forechecks well, and is responsible defensively is an overpay?
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Aug 23 @ 9:46 AM ET
Solid deal. Not great, not terrible. About right in line for a young, 30-goal, top-six forward.

Does it have a NTC or NMC? Just curious. Haven't heard anything about that.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
Solid deal. Not great, not terrible. About right in line for a young, 30-goal, top-six forward.

Does it have a NTC or NMC? Just curious. Haven't heard anything about that.

- GalacticStone


Not the first two years. Then a NTC for two years. The a 16 team NTC for the remainder.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Aug 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
Not the first two years. Then a NTC for two years. The a 16 team NTC for the remainder.
- Chunk

That's not bad. I can live with that. I disagree with the doubters, but only time will ultimately tell.

For what he brings and what his ceiling is, that caphit is pretty middle of the road, if not a little cheap. The term is a little long for my tastes though, but I once thought that about Killorn also and he turned out to be worth it.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Aug 23 @ 2:06 PM ET
If Hagel can repeat or improve on last year's numbers this will prove to be a steal. Locking up a top six player to 8 years under 7M when they are 24 years old is pretty smart low risk business.
Jammerz04
Buffalo Sabres
Location: K, BC
Joined: 01.03.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:39 PM ET
Definitely worth it. Great analytics guy. He’s just getting better.