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HockeyBuzz
Location: Brampton
Joined: 08.09.2006

Jul 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
Rumor: Pesce, Jarvis #1, #2 for Erik Karlsson… Carolina really wants to get this done and San Jose really can’t do better…The Hawks would take on some of the Cap hit…
GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.07.2016

Jul 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
Rumor: Pesce, Jarvis #1, #2 for Erik Karlsson…

Carolina really wants to get this done and San Jose really can’t do better…The Hawks would take on some of the Cap hit…

- HockeyBuzz


That is a horrendous overpayment for a guy you couldn't give away with additional first round picks just 8 months ago.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
Seems like wishful thinking on SJ part tbh...all that for a guy SJ is sort of desperate to trade, with such a huge cap hit and a NMC...if they can get it, wow, Grier, amazing job.

Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jul 5 @ 12:58 PM ET
Pesce for Karlson alone would be bad for Carolina
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jul 5 @ 12:58 PM ET
Why on Earth would anyone want to reunite Brent Burns and Erik Karlsson? Was it not made abundantly clear last season that Karlsson's output is strongly tied to having the undisputed #1PP role? He's statistically 40% more productive without Burns, and now has Norris Trophy wins with two different teams where he was the #1D.


Cap437
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.30.2017

Jul 5 @ 1:06 PM ET
Massive overpayment. I understand dealing Pesce if you're bringing in a dman, but id seriously reconsider parting ways with Seth Jarvis. Bad deal!
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:06 PM ET
Why on Earth would anyone want to reunite Brent Burns and Erik Karlsson? Was it not made abundantly clear last season that Karlsson's output is strongly tied to having the undisputed #1PP role? He's statistically 40% more productive without Burns, and now has Norris Trophy wins with two different teams where he was the #1D.
- khawk


100% this. Burns with Karlsson is like oil and water.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:11 PM ET
This is THEE BIGGEST LOL you’ve ever come up with Ek !

Pesce alone is worth more than Karlsson.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 5 @ 1:13 PM ET
I hope Carolina does this. Whoever is coming up with these rumors is totally cooked.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jul 5 @ 1:20 PM ET
I hope Carolina does this. Whoever is coming up with these rumors is totally cooked.
- MacPatty


Take out most of those pieces and maybe it could be for Couture or Hertl with 30-40% retained? Even then, I think Kotkaniemi is pretty solid at #2C and only 22yrs old, so really, that wouldn't make sense either.

Overall, I fail to see how this makes sense - barring CAR GM losing his mind...
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
Insanity -
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
EK ten years ago was barely worth that.
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
I am not a Canes fan specifically so i only get to watch them a few times/yr befor the playoffs start. So i guess I am asking sharks and Canes fans, if reuniting Burns and Karlsson a good thing? Pesce is 28, seems to be a steady defender and jarvis is 21. Is it that the canes have a cheaper version of pesce in the system already? Karlsson is 33 and signed until 2027 at 11.5M...oy!
CappyJr.
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Indian Trial, NC
Joined: 08.16.2011

Jul 5 @ 2:23 PM ET
Bullpoop rumor, Canes aren’t trading 4 pieces for EK. Believe it when I see it.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
Bullpoop rumor, Canes aren’t trading 4 pieces for EK. Believe it when I see it.
- CappyJr.



Ek took down the Yamamoto and PIT rumor, lol...it was *that* bad, it couldn't even stay on *this* website, lol!
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Jul 5 @ 2:26 PM ET
If this was the actual offer, San Jose would have signed and put Karlsson on a private jet. But if for some reason Carolina can't acquire Karlsson, then they might also look to Yamamoto as a plan B. Unless Pittsburgh scoops him up first. Kyle Okposo could also be a good veteran presence.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jul 5 @ 2:28 PM ET
If this was the actual offer, San Jose would have signed and put Karlsson on a private jet. But if for some reason Carolina can't acquire Karlsson, then they might also look to Yamamoto as a plan B. Unless Pittsburgh scoops him up first. Kyle Okposo could also be a good veteran presence.
- Cooleus




In that case smart move for CAR is to just move asap to Plan B before PIT snags Yamamoto -- players who can so easily replace EK are very rare and it's not worth the risk!
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 5 @ 2:29 PM ET
Sounds a bit rich for a "conservative" cheapskate in Redundant.
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Jul 5 @ 2:35 PM ET


In that case smart move for CAR is to just move asap to Plan B before PIT snags Yamamoto -- players who can so easily replace EK are very rare and it's not worth the risk!

- mventres


Plan C to Karlsson and Yamamoto is Anton Khudobin. Teams have options right now. That's why most of these contracts are cheap 1-year deals.
Zupes
San Jose Sharks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.02.2012

Jul 5 @ 2:57 PM ET
Why on Earth would anyone want to reunite Brent Burns and Erik Karlsson? Was it not made abundantly clear last season that Karlsson's output is strongly tied to having the undisputed #1PP role? He's statistically 40% more productive without Burns, and now has Norris Trophy wins with two different teams where he was the #1D.
- khawk

Some of this is true, but the take on the PP role is just false. He had 20 EV goals and 74 EV points.
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
I kinda feel like EK is still going to be wearing a Sharks sweater come October.
paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 5 @ 3:02 PM ET
maybe CAR think this would put them over the top, but that's to much ....

but everyone remember (Joe) Pesce would problably not resign in SJ...would
just go to to free agency at the end of cureent contract

but....I'd still take that in second if I was SJ
Zupes
San Jose Sharks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.02.2012

Jul 5 @ 3:10 PM ET
maybe CAR think this would put them over the top, but that's to much ....

but everyone remember (Joe) Pesce would problably not resign in SJ...would
just go to to free agency at the end of cureent contract

but....I'd still take that in second if I was SJ

- paulozz

SJ takes this then 100% flips Pesce either in the offseason or at TDL at 50% and can likely get another 1st.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jul 5 @ 3:42 PM ET
SJ takes this then 100% flips Pesce either in the offseason or at TDL at 50% and can likely get another 1st.
- Zupes



Obviously the deal would make a ton of sense for SJ...Carolina not much - especially with DeAngelo coming in - unless they deal Burns? I could see a play for DeBrincat or Nylander, but unless either is coming in signed, this would be way too much to pay...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Waddell recently said the proposed trade of DeAngelo to Carolina from Philly is still on also. It all adds up.
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