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Ben Shelley
Los Angeles Kings
Location: ON
Joined: 04.09.2020

Jun 6 @ 9:34 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Kings trade Cal Petersen, Sean Walker and Helge Grans to Flyers
hockeyaddict89
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.26.2015

Jun 6 @ 9:43 PM ET
Nice move for everyone involved
jsrstl1
Season Ticket Holder
St Louis Blues
Location: New Braumfels, TX
Joined: 01.08.2022

Jun 6 @ 10:02 PM ET
Great trade for all three teams !
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jun 6 @ 10:13 PM ET
Man. Its not often you see the hockey community of fans saying good move for all teams involved in a multi team trade. We all knew LA had to make a move like this. Now they just need to secure Gavrikov and Korpi. Esp Gavrikov.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 11:05 PM ET
https://flyersnittygritty...P14LUd2Ks&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 7 @ 12:43 AM ET
Dunno, think this bites Columbus in the ass.
13of39
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 08.26.2018

Jun 7 @ 1:56 AM ET
Next order of business is gonna havta look something like…

To LAK: G Carter Hart - 3.979aav x 1yr (RFA)
RW Devin Kaplan - ELC - (3rd Round Pick)
RW Wade Allison - .785aav x 1yr (RFA) : some injury history risk
2023 4th Round Pick (from Edmonton)
2023 6th Round Pick (from Ottawa)

To PHI: G Phoenix Copley - 1.5aav x 1yr (UFA)
D Brandt Clarke - ELC - (8th Overall Pick)
, C Alex Turcotte - ELC - (5th Overall Pick : Injury History Risk)
C Lias Andersson RFA - (7th Overall Pick : Attitude Concerns but nearly 1PPG in AHL)
2025 1st Round Pick (where they draft G Gabriel D’Aigle lol
2023 3rd Round Pick (from PIT)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 7 @ 7:38 AM ET
Next order of business is gonna havta look something like…

To LAK: G Carter Hart - 3.979aav x 1yr (RFA)
RW Devin Kaplan - ELC - (3rd Round Pick)
RW Wade Allison - .785aav x 1yr (RFA) : some injury history risk
2023 4th Round Pick (from Edmonton)
2023 6th Round Pick (from Ottawa)

To PHI: G Phoenix Copley - 1.5aav x 1yr (UFA)
D Brandt Clarke - ELC - (8th Overall Pick)
, C Alex Turcotte - ELC - (5th Overall Pick : Injury History Risk)
C Lias Andersson RFA - (7th Overall Pick : Attitude Concerns but nearly 1PPG in AHL)
2025 1st Round Pick (where they draft G Gabriel D’Aigle lol
2023 3rd Round Pick (from PIT)

- 13of39


I really like both Hart and Allison, but I'd do this if I was Philly. I am HUGE on Brandt Clarke. No interest in Lias Anderson, and I wouldn't have given that crybaby his medal back.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 7 @ 8:47 AM ET
Next order of business is gonna havta look something like…

To LAK: G Carter Hart - 3.979aav x 1yr (RFA)
RW Devin Kaplan - ELC - (3rd Round Pick)
RW Wade Allison - .785aav x 1yr (RFA) : some injury history risk
2023 4th Round Pick (from Edmonton)
2023 6th Round Pick (from Ottawa)

To PHI: G Phoenix Copley - 1.5aav x 1yr (UFA)
D Brandt Clarke - ELC - (8th Overall Pick)
, C Alex Turcotte - ELC - (5th Overall Pick : Injury History Risk)
C Lias Andersson RFA - (7th Overall Pick : Attitude Concerns but nearly 1PPG in AHL)
2025 1st Round Pick (where they draft G Gabriel D’Aigle lol
2023 3rd Round Pick (from PIT)

- 13of39


This is definitely an interesting trade proposal. At first glance it could look slighted towards one team, but this one is tricky.

You basically have 4 1st round assets going to Philly, but I wouldn't sleep on Allison or Kaplan. Andersson is pretty much a wash at this point with Turcotte becoming close to that in a few years.

As a Flyer fan I would hate to lose Hart, but as a business standpoint you have to accept this trade. Basically getting Clarke and a 1st for Hart...that's a bit too lopsided for the Flyers.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jun 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
Next order of business is gonna havta look something like…

To LAK: G Carter Hart - 3.979aav x 1yr (RFA)
RW Devin Kaplan - ELC - (3rd Round Pick)
RW Wade Allison - .785aav x 1yr (RFA) : some injury history risk
2023 4th Round Pick (from Edmonton)
2023 6th Round Pick (from Ottawa)

To PHI: G Phoenix Copley - 1.5aav x 1yr (UFA)
D Brandt Clarke - ELC - (8th Overall Pick)
, C Alex Turcotte - ELC - (5th Overall Pick : Injury History Risk)
C Lias Andersson RFA - (7th Overall Pick : Attitude Concerns but nearly 1PPG in AHL)
2025 1st Round Pick (where they draft G Gabriel D’Aigle lol
2023 3rd Round Pick (from PIT)

- 13of39


Hart? Sure. Solid. But Clarke and a first in addition to other prospects, picks and the backup goalie all for Hart and late picks and a few nobodies? This is an awful proposal.
stefano76
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 7 @ 12:28 PM ET
Next order of business is gonna havta look something like…

To LAK: G Carter Hart - 3.979aav x 1yr (RFA)
RW Devin Kaplan - ELC - (3rd Round Pick)
RW Wade Allison - .785aav x 1yr (RFA) : some injury history risk
2023 4th Round Pick (from Edmonton)
2023 6th Round Pick (from Ottawa)

To PHI: G Phoenix Copley - 1.5aav x 1yr (UFA)
D Brandt Clarke - ELC - (8th Overall Pick)
, C Alex Turcotte - ELC - (5th Overall Pick : Injury History Risk)
C Lias Andersson RFA - (7th Overall Pick : Attitude Concerns but nearly 1PPG in AHL)
2025 1st Round Pick (where they draft G Gabriel D’Aigle lol
2023 3rd Round Pick (from PIT)

- 13of39



If i am Rob Blake, not only am i hanging up immediately, but i am blocking the phone number too
arh777
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Joined: 03.27.2012

Jun 7 @ 2:28 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/c-344767594

Gavrikov signed for 2 years[url]
13of39
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 08.26.2018

Jun 7 @ 2:31 PM ET
I really like both Hart and Allison, but I'd do this if I was Philly. I am HUGE on Brandt Clarke. No interest in Lias Anderson, and I wouldn't have given that crybaby his medal back.
- jmatchett383



Yeah, the way I saw it was allowing the Kings to recoup value on what is likely a swing and miss in Turcotte (after all, out of sight, out of mind makes a GM’s tenure last longer), further raising Blake’s GM stock through the old found gold idea in Anderssen (turn a total freebie into better assets), all to ease the blow of losing Clarke. Additionally, Allison has a measure of goodwill legacy wise, and Kaplan I LOVE as a prospect. Reminds of Chris Stewart from the Avalanche years ago. Size. Toughness. Touch. And the picks to balance things out, for Briere accepting so much risk outside of Clarke, a 1st down the line when it’s likely to fall in the late 20s seemed fair.

Also it leaves guys like Kaliyev, Affallo, and other more in line with the current developmental curve in place. And that RD still has Doughty-Durzi-Roy-Spence and deeper down Otto and Sparkes.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jun 7 @ 2:34 PM ET
Yeah, the way I saw it was allowing the Kings to recoup value on what is likely a swing and miss in Turcotte (after all, out of sight, out of mind makes a GM’s tenure last longer), further raising Blake’s GM stock through the old found gold idea in Anderssen (turn a total freebie into better assets), all to ease the blow of losing Clarke. Additionally, Allison has a measure of goodwill legacy wise, and Kaplan I LOVE as a prospect. Reminds of Chris Stewart from the Avalanche years ago. Size. Toughness. Touch. And the picks to balance things out, for Briere accepting so much risk outside of Clarke, a 1st down the line when it’s likely to fall in the late 20s seemed fair.

Also it leaves guys like Kaliyev, Affallo, and other more in line with the current developmental curve in place. And that RD still has Doughty-Durzi-Roy-Spence and deeper down Otto and Sparkes.

- 13of39


Andersson cost a 2nd. Wasn't a freebie. Chris Stewart had a single, solitary good season and then was a bottom six player the rest of his career.
13of39
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 08.26.2018

Jun 8 @ 2:39 PM ET
Andersson cost a 2nd. Wasn't a freebie. Chris Stewart had a single, solitary good season and then was a bottom six player the rest of his career.
- Only_A_Ladd



Stewart had a 28 goal season, eclipsed 15 goals 5x, and 10 goals 9x. If Kaplan were to realize that kind of production while being a big body and net front presence, that’s pretty solid considering only 54% of 3rd Round Draftees realize a single game in the show, let alone make a career of it.

And you’re spot on. My mistake. For some reason I thought he was a waiver claim in late 2022, not a waiver placement by the LA Front Office. My bad!