Ryan Wilson: Dubas motivated after dubious exit? Dubas motivated after dubious exit?

Yeah find it strange
Rumoured 4 mil a year not enough?
Apparently Shanahan asked him not to be part of mondays presser but he did then played the sob story.
Shanny is right. We all have family concerns when doing this job. Especially in this hockey market when what you buy for lunch is in the news. What worse would dubas expect?

Personally he made his own bed with his Monday comments and trying to leverage a better package. If he goes to Pitt, good luck

Ryan Wilson: Dubas motivated after dubious exit?
Dubas motivated after dubious exit?
- Ryan_Wilson

Waaaahhhhhhhhh Dubas had pressure to make the 2nd round and you want him to take on the pressure of winning a cup? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Waaaahhhhhhhhh Dubas had pressure to make the 2nd round and you want him to take on the pressure of winning a cup? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
- optimus-reim

This is a horrible take and comment. You should delete your account.

Dubas just did a sloppy job in his presser

When they didn't extend him last summer, Dubas probably took it personal (as would anyone). In his presser he was trying to convey how difficult it can be to be a GM in that market (easily the hardest in the NHL) and that he wasn't going to take just any offer to stay (more $$$) - Where he messed up was by coming across as maybe not wanting to be the GM of the Leafs due to the "Stress".....

It came out messy and Shanahan decided to cut bait rather than be faced with the never ending criticism of signing a GM who "may or may not really want the job anymore"

Dubas is a quality GM, Leafs will regret this move and Dubas probably lost some leverage with FSG, but my bet is he ends up here next year

Waaaahhhhhhhhh Dubas had pressure to make the 2nd round and you want him to take on the pressure of winning a cup? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
- optimus-reim

What does this even mean?

What does this even mean?
- kfinl170

Not sure what it means, but if you watched the press conf you would know he was an unmitigated disaster. There was no way TO would keep him after that as who knows if he would have been all in after his return. Who knows if he can handle the pressure. Why he is under pressure is not important, but he put the Leafs in a crappy position both on and off the ice and prob should be cast off to to the Tallahassee Wharthogs.

He did not show that he can build a supporting cast around a handful of stars over a 5 year span which pretty much disqualifies him from the Pens job. Pass…

Btw there is plenty of pressure in other markets as well.

I would not mind (in no order): boterill, mackinnon, tulsky or greeley for GM. and for prez, i would not mind dubas, ventura or shero.

Shero, mackinnon, ventura and boterill have relationships with the pens
greeley has relationships with FSG people

Interesting to see how it all played out. Sounds like Dubas completely misread the situation. Leafs were on the fence about getting rid of him and he tried to put pressure on them in his press conference and asked for more money.

Definitely not the guy I want as Pens GM.

This is a horrible take and comment. You should delete your account.
- MattStrat

Thanks for your advice 🤣🤣🤣🤣

What does this even mean?
- kfinl170

Dubas cried over the pressure of making it to the second round and your blogger wants him as GM whilst the Pens are looking to win a cup.
The topic is pressure, simpleton.

Dubas cried over the pressure of making it to the second round and your blogger wants him as GM whilst the Pens are looking to win a cup.
The topic is pressure, simpleton.
- optimus-reim

Aren’t all teams in fact trying to win the cup?

Thanks for your advice 🤣🤣🤣🤣
- optimus-reim

Hahaha no sweat, any time.

My concern is the sullivan factor. Yes, hextall made the bottom 6 worse. But it was the coach who kept rolling the heinen-carter-mcginn lines over and again. At any time he could have sat carter, but didnt. At any time he could have lessened dumo's minutes, but did not. then sullivan comes out talking about beefing up WB/S. But it was a struggle for sully to put oconnor, POJ and nylander in the line up. he plays veterans over them, thats who he is. and with him having a voice on who the gm is? Is that a concern for whoever takes the prez and gm jobs? I dont think sullivan cares about sabermetrics at all.

Yes the Sullivan factor is the most concerning thing with the Pens right now.

The Mathews and Marner deals alone have to be enough to take Dubas off the GM list right?

The Mathews and Marner deals alone have to be enough to take Dubas off the GM list right?
- Grinder47

I think those deals are fine because they are great two-way players. Tavares is the deal that should take him off the list. It was way too much five years ago and it's still too much for a guy who doesn't play any defense (especially at the center position).

I think those deals are fine because they are great two-way players. Tavares is the deal that should take him off the list. It was way too much five years and it's still too much for a guy who doesn't play any defense (especially at the center position).
- Hockey66

I don't really have a grasp of where TO went wrong, but I do remember thinking Tavares wasn't what they needed. He's still a really good player though.

I didn't understand relying on Matt Murray either. You never know what you're going to get from him when he's healthy.....and he's not healthy all that often.

I'd be really happy with Botts as PHOPs and Tuslky as GM.

I don't really have a grasp of where TO went wrong, but I do remember thinking Tavares wasn't what they needed. He's still a really good player though.

I didn't understand relying on Matt Murray either. You never know what you're going to get from him when he's healthy.....and he's not healthy all that often.
- madmike71

Yeah, that was the biggest thing, taking such a gamble on Murray and Samsonov. At least get one semi-reliable guy in there.

I'd be really happy with Botts as PHOPs and Tuslky as GM.
- madmike71

I feel like there’s a ton of good candidates for both positions. I’m choosing to be happy.

I think those deals are fine because they are great two-way players. Tavares is the deal that should take him off the list. It was way too much five years ago and it's still too much for a guy who doesn't play any defense (especially at the center position).
- Hockey66

I don’t know how you pay those two what they make. Neither of them are going to give you more than expected, but sometimes much less. Just aren’t the type of guys you commit to as leaders.

My concern is the sullivan factor. Yes, hextall made the bottom 6 worse. But it was the coach who kept rolling the heinen-carter-mcginn lines over and again. At any time he could have sat carter, but didnt. At any time he could have lessened dumo's minutes, but did not. then sullivan comes out talking about beefing up WB/S. But it was a struggle for sully to put oconnor, POJ and nylander in the line up. he plays veterans over them, thats who he is. and with him having a voice on who the gm is? Is that a concern for whoever takes the prez and gm jobs? I dont think sullivan cares about sabermetrics at all.
- i'mjustafan

Although I agree with most, if not all of this post. Dumoulin had a career year this year, as far as points are concerned. He had a poor year when it came to defense.

What you have to realize is this blogger and Sullivan want more offense. Many times, at the expense of defense. RW has called for Dumoulin to be traded numerous times because he lacks offence. Well, he provided that this year. Sully wants his d-men to step up in the play constantly. Dumo did that. We can't complain about his play if he's doing what he's being coached.

I don’t know how you pay those two what they make. Neither of them are going to give you more than expected, but sometimes much less. Just aren’t the type of guys you commit to as leaders.
- Grinder47

I remember narratives of Sid and Geno not being good leaders starting to develop around 2013/2014...Matthews and Marner are excellent and they are much better in all zones of the rink than you think/know. Marner is one of the of their top PKers every game and is excellent there.

The Leafs lost to a team that looks like it just finds ways to win no matter what. Almost like the 2017 Penguins except these Panthers are playing better overall hockey than those Penguins were for the most part. Taking the first two games from Canes in their barn is pretty nuts.. Almost as nuts as coming back to beat the all time Bruins after being down 3 games to 1.

If the Leafs and Panthers goalies were switched the Leafs would of been in the ECF. Sub. 900 SV% (first 3 games of series, 3-0 Panthers) just don't cut it, especially when the opposition's goalie is doing 945 some games never below 916 in any game and 961 in game 5 hahah... I think Bob has to be Conn Smythe front runner right now..

I remember narratives of Sid and Geno not being good leaders starting to develop around 2013/2014...Matthews and Marner are excellent and they are much better in all zones of the rink than you think/know. Marner is one of the of their top PKers every game and is excellent there.

The Leafs lost to a team that looks like it just finds ways to win no matter what. Almost like the 2017 Penguins except these Panthers are playing better overall hockey than those Penguins were for the most part. Taking the first two games from Canes in their barn is pretty nuts.. Almost as nuts as coming back to beat the all time Bruins after being down 3 games to 1.

If the Leafs and Panthers goalies were switched the Leafs would of been in the ECF. Sub. 900 SV% (first 3 games of series, 3-0 Panthers) just don't cut it, especially when the opposition's goalie is doing 945 some games never below 916 in any game and 961 in game 5 hahah... I think Bob has to be Conn Smythe front runner right now..
- MattStrat

Would the Leafs have been in the ECF or would we still be talking about how bad of a contract Bobrovski has?