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Zach Jarom
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.01.2019

May 17 @ 8:55 AM ET
Zach Jarom: The KD Plan and Off Season Wish List
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

May 17 @ 9:08 AM ET
Definitely one of the most interesting off seasons in memory coming up for Blackhawks fans.
Load up the pipeline, boys!
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

May 17 @ 9:30 AM ET
Definitely one of the most interesting off seasons in memory coming up for Blackhawks fans.
Load up the pipeline, boys!

- 35Tony0


Should be a lot of fun. Having #1OA kind of guarantees that along with the number of picks in the first three rounds.

The Dach trade came a bit out of nowhere last year so will be interesting to see what Davidson has up his sleeve this year.

And definitely, keep stocking the pond!
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
42 days until the draft and 45 days until free agency. That seems like an eternity when we're waiting for the Hawks to draft Bedard then (hopefully) bring in some talent to support him.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

May 17 @ 9:50 AM ET
Gotta wonder what it’d take for KD to land Boeser and #11.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 9:51 AM ET
Should be a lot of fun. Having #1OA kind of guarantees that along with the number of picks in the first three rounds.

The Dach trade came a bit out of nowhere last year so will be interesting to see what Davidson has up his sleeve this year.

And definitely, keep stocking the pond!

- HawkintheD





That and KD's desire to trade will make it even more interesting. Like you said, the Dach trade was a surprise but this year he doesn't have much to work with unless another GM wants to overpay for Murphy or Raddysh.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 9:51 AM ET
Gotta wonder what it’d take for KD to land Boeser and #11.
- Assman22



Probably more than the Hawks are willing to part with.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 17 @ 10:38 AM ET
Probably more than the Hawks are willing to part with.
- DarthKane


Considering the going rate is a 2nd round pick and the Canucks don't have one I'd say give them Ottawa s pick in the 2nd and a (4th round pick or the option to add Myers) to the trade.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 10:47 AM ET
Considering the going rate is a 2nd round pick and the Canucks don't have one I'd say give them Ottawa s pick in the 2nd and a (4th round pick or the option to add Myers) to the trade.
- BetweenTheDots


I don't think the likes of Boeser and/or Garland will be salary dump trades, or at least require a sweetener. The return may have to be less that the Canucks would expect, but they shouldn't have to add picks/prospects to the deal.

Neither player has any type of trade protection. Buffalo and Arizona could part with a 2nd round pick for Boeser or Garland. I think Arizona has 152 second round picks over the next 3 drafts.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 17 @ 10:50 AM ET
Boeser doesn't appear to be a KD type of player. I don't think he is going to chase him unless the return is very lopsided

Buyer Beware
So, if Boeser possesses an elite shot and scoring touch, why is he on track for just 18 goals over a full 82-game season this year? Aside from the hand injury, maybe things have just run their course in Vancouver. He’s missed time with a variety of injuries and had to deal with a lot off the ice in his relatively young career, notably the death of his father last May. On top of that, he’s been rumored to be traded for the past year, with his agent Ben Hankinson finally being given permission to find a trade partner in December.



The trade rumors, his injuries, and his off-ice tragedy would weigh any player down, but Boeser has soldiered on with a good attitude and puts the work in. That doesn’t change the fact that he is on pace for his worst full-season goal total this year, in part due to the injury, but probably in no small part to the dark clouds that have swirled over his head for more than a year.

Teams are well aware that Boeser has never been a great skater. He lacks separation speed, which hampers his ability to create the space necessary to distribute the puck, limiting him to a complementary shooter role. That forces coaches to play him with faster players who can get in on pucks more quickly and get them to Boeser for looks, such as Ilya Mikheyev this year in Vancouver. His first three strides are average, but once he gets moving, he can think his way into elite position by reading the play. He is strong on his skates, able to absorb contact and make small-area plays to get to spots to shoot under pressure.



Boeser’s lack of pace also impacts his defensive ability. He is often late to backcheck and once in the defensive zone, he typically reacts to pressure rather than anticipate attacking lanes. He has the tendency to cheat for offense, giving himself a little head start out of the zone, which can burn his team from time to time. Any team with the hopes of making a deep playoff run needs players committed to playing in all three zones, and Boeser has shown inconsistency on the defensive side of the puck.

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Boeser doesn't appear to be a KD type of player. I don't think he is going to chase him unless the return is very lopsided

Buyer Beware
So, if Boeser possesses an elite shot and scoring touch, why is he on track for just 18 goals over a full 82-game season this year? Aside from the hand injury, maybe things have just run their course in Vancouver. He’s missed time with a variety of injuries and had to deal with a lot off the ice in his relatively young career, notably the death of his father last May. On top of that, he’s been rumored to be traded for the past year, with his agent Ben Hankinson finally being given permission to find a trade partner in December.



The trade rumors, his injuries, and his off-ice tragedy would weigh any player down, but Boeser has soldiered on with a good attitude and puts the work in. That doesn’t change the fact that he is on pace for his worst full-season goal total this year, in part due to the injury, but probably in no small part to the dark clouds that have swirled over his head for more than a year.

Teams are well aware that Boeser has never been a great skater. He lacks separation speed, which hampers his ability to create the space necessary to distribute the puck, limiting him to a complementary shooter role. That forces coaches to play him with faster players who can get in on pucks more quickly and get them to Boeser for looks, such as Ilya Mikheyev this year in Vancouver. His first three strides are average, but once he gets moving, he can think his way into elite position by reading the play. He is strong on his skates, able to absorb contact and make small-area plays to get to spots to shoot under pressure.



Boeser’s lack of pace also impacts his defensive ability. He is often late to backcheck and once in the defensive zone, he typically reacts to pressure rather than anticipate attacking lanes. He has the tendency to cheat for offense, giving himself a little head start out of the zone, which can burn his team from time to time. Any team with the hopes of making a deep playoff run needs players committed to playing in all three zones, and Boeser has shown inconsistency on the defensive side of the puck.

- LAHawk


Between Boeser and Garland I would take Garland every time. That being said, I think both forwards would benefit from a change in scenery and both would produce with Bedard.

Garland has 3 more years at $4.95 million. Would it be worth parting with a 2nd round pick to get Garland vs signing a UFA (think Domi) for 3 years x $5 million AAV? It would all depend on which UFA would be willing to come to Chicago, of course. Plus, a UFA would require some type of trade protection, whereas Garland won't have that for the remainder of his current deal.
mike7076
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.11.2018

May 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
I’ll state it again:

If Michkov falls to 6/7/8…

Garland or Boeser plus 11OA for CHI 19OA.

11OA ++ to AZ6 / PHI7 / WASH8.

With the 6/7/8 pick in the 2023 NHL draft, the Chicago Blackhawks select Matvei Michkov.

Hoping he falls…..

Exhale
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

May 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Probably more than the Hawks are willing to part with.
- DarthKane

I give two of our seconds and keep 19.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 11:57 AM ET
I’ll state it again:

If Michkov falls to 6/7/8…

Garland or Boeser plus 11OA for CHI 19OA.

11OA ++ to AZ6 / PHI7 / WASH8.

With the 6/7/8 pick in the 2023 NHL draft, the Chicago Blackhawks select Matvei Michkov.

Hoping he falls…..

Exhale

- mike7076


If Michkov falls to 8 there's no way Wahington doesn't draft him.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 17 @ 12:07 PM ET
I'm all for using a 2nd and swapping 1sts to move up a few spots to obtain a player KD and staff really want. Maybe someone like Nate Danielson will be on the board at #11 (VAN) or #14 (PIT).

But something we should be aware of is other teams have the draft picks to move up and obtain a player they are targeting. DET has comparable draft capital as the Hawks with #17 and 3 2nd picks. And STL could package their two late 1sts to move up.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 17 @ 12:08 PM ET
I don't think the likes of Boeser and/or Garland will be salary dump trades, or at least require a sweetener. The return may have to be less that the Canucks would expect, but they shouldn't have to add picks/prospects to the deal.

Neither player has any type of trade protection. Buffalo and Arizona could part with a 2nd round pick for Boeser or Garland. I think Arizona has 152 second round picks over the next 3 drafts.

- DarthKane


Then why would KD make the trade? Tyler Johnson cost the Bolts a 2nd, i think this year's, he's a pretty good player? No way he ties himself up for so many years without getting something in return. If that's the case and the rumors are true about Nylander that's the guy I'd go after, give them 3rd or something and in return he'll play well for us then trade him for a 1st in 2026 plus more.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 17 @ 12:09 PM ET
I'm all for using a 2nd and swapping 1sts to move up a few spots to obtain a player KD and staff really want. Maybe someone like Nate Danielson will be on the board at #11 (VAN) or #14 (PIT).

But something we should be aware of is other teams have the draft capital to move up and obtain a player they are targeting. DET has comparable draft capital as the Hawks with #17 and 3 2nd picks. And STL could package their two late 1sts to move up.

- boilermaker100


Can't worry about the other teams, gotta do business that makes sense for the rebuild.

Also Seider and Raymond RFA contracts are due after this up coming season
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
Then why would KD make the trade? Tyler Johnson cost the Bolts a 2nd, i think this year's, he's a pretty good player? No way he ties himself up for so many years without getting something in return. If that's the case and the rumors are true about Nylander that's the guy I'd go after, give them 3rd or something and in return he'll play well for us then trade him for a 1st in 2026 plus more.
- BetweenTheDots



The only reason would be that he believes the players he's acquiring are the post options to play with Bedard and are better than any UFA or salary dump (i.e. Johnson, Mrazek) type of situation.

For me, I would sign Domi. He likes playing in Chicago, wants to play in Chicago (assuming he still does), and he brings what the team needs. There may be moves beyond Domi that are needed, but I would focus on cap dumps for those moves.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 17 @ 1:42 PM ET
I'm all for using a 2nd and swapping 1sts to move up a few spots to obtain a player KD and staff really want. Maybe someone like Nate Danielson will be on the board at #11 (VAN) or #14 (PIT).

But something we should be aware of is other teams have the draft picks to move up and obtain a player they are targeting. DET has comparable draft capital as the Hawks with #17 and 3 2nd picks. And STL could package their two late 1sts to move up.

- boilermaker100



Agreed, but I think the biggest challenge will be finding a trade partner who is willing to move down in such a strong draft.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

May 17 @ 1:49 PM ET
Is Arizona going to stay in Arizona? I read that their deal for a new stadium just fell through. They can't have a huge payroll playing on a college rink. Think Quebec might be back in the mix? I know this is off topic, I just found it interesting. What is the commissioner going to do?
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

May 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
Is Arizona going to stay in Arizona? I read that their deal for a new stadium just fell through. They can't have a huge payroll playing on a college rink. Think Quebec might be back in the mix? I know this is off topic, I just found it interesting. What is the commissioner going to do?
- bjphawkfan


I just read that also, wow!!! Here is the headline:

Arizona voters sent a billion dollar message to their NHL team last night: We're not that into you
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

May 17 @ 2:00 PM ET
Is there any realistic way we can get another pick in first round AND keep the 19th pick? i guess the best way is to take on poop...y contracts
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

May 17 @ 2:20 PM ET
Is Arizona going to stay in Arizona? I read that their deal for a new stadium just fell through. They can't have a huge payroll playing on a college rink. Think Quebec might be back in the mix? I know this is off topic, I just found it interesting. What is the commissioner going to do?
- bjphawkfan



Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome your 2023/2024 Kansas City Scouts.

powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

May 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome your 2023/2024 Kansas City Scouts.


- Rota's Rooter



would that logo be allowed for a "NEW" franchise?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 17 @ 2:35 PM ET
I don't think the likes of Boeser and/or Garland will be salary dump trades, or at least require a sweetener. The return may have to be less that the Canucks would expect, but they shouldn't have to add picks/prospects to the deal.

Neither player has any type of trade protection. Buffalo and Arizona could part with a 2nd round pick for Boeser or Garland. I think Arizona has 152 second round picks over the next 3 drafts.

- DarthKane


Interesting take, Kaner. Seems to me both Boeser and Garland are liabilities cuz of their contracts both in terms of cap hit AND term, especially Boeser. VAN is in real cap trouble, believe they're over the cap right now, so they have no leverage with either player who's production don't come near to fulfilling their contracts...... I can't see them not having to add a sweetner or taking back very little.

That said I like Garland. A legit middle 6 player with speed, tenacity and grit that can put up 50 pts and more if given enough TOI and 2nd unit PP. But I see Bunting as a similar player who is a UFA who wouldn't cost assets to acquire so I would not trade for garland without a sweetner.

Bunting and Garland have skated with elite talent and have the speed and enough skill to skate with Bedard so they do fit a Hawk's need on the ice and off it to get to the cap floor. ...... Boeser just doesn't fit IMO. Reminds me off Wahlstrom and Tolvenen in that they don't skate well but have a good shot but Boeser is saddled with a terrible contract.

VAN will do something cuz they have to.
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