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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jul 5 @ 11:33 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Scouts Week, Draft, LeClair
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 5 @ 11:35 AM ET
So another year of Jones as a backup?
Dave21Brown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 12.09.2018

Jul 5 @ 11:38 AM ET
What a joy it was to be a Flyers fan back in the John LeClair days. No they didn’t win a Stanley Cup but they entertained the fans with some great hockey. I miss those days.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 5 @ 11:38 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Scouts Week, Draft, LeClair
- bmeltzer

Bill do you see the FLyers having 2 1st picks come Friday? Yes or no
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:39 AM ET
Bill do you see the FLyers having 2 1st picks come Friday? Yes or no
- hello it's me 2050


No
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 5 @ 11:40 AM ET
No
- bmeltzer

boo....be even funnier they end up with no pick
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:42 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Scouts Week, Draft, LeClair
- bmeltzer

Hard for me to choose between Lindros and LeClair for top spot as my number 1 favorite player. Eric Lindros is Eric Lindros. John LeClair channels a style of play I’ve always enjoyed watching, which is why I might favor Wayne Simmonds, Scott Hartnell, JvR and Brayden Schenn when Schenn played wing. Strong along the wall. Going to the dirty areas. Tough to move. I love these types but of course the following I mentioned never lived up to John LeClair. He also seems like a real character guy away from the ice and in interviews. Live Bundy stories about LeClair.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 5 @ 11:42 AM ET
Can't wait to see what Arizona does.

They have picks at 3, 27, 32, 34, 36, 43 and 45.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
It is easy to forget how lethal a slap shot LeClair had coming down the wing. Routinely beat goalies. It was a pleasure to watch him play hockey.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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Jul 5 @ 11:48 AM ET
What a joy it was to be a Flyers fan back in the John LeClair days. No they didn’t win a Stanley Cup but they entertained the fans with some great hockey. I miss those days.
- Dave21Brown

Anyone remember when Lindros held out. Didn’t LeClair hurt his back that same season? Pretty amazing that we stayed good but if I remember right, I think we were a one line team of Primeau, Recchi and Gagne. With Lindros wanting out though, something about LeClair sticking around was the reason I stayed hopeful about this team when LeClair returned healthy.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 5 @ 11:49 AM ET
Can't wait to see what Arizona does.

They have picks at 3, 27, 32, 34, 36, 43 and 45.

- Feanor

Will most likely be a Bruins situation when they whiffed on 12-15 or whatever it was and missed out on a ton of good players
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
Bill,

play GM, what would you do over the next 36 months
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
Bill with an interesting theory. I potential gap between Nemec and Jiricek on the draft board.
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
It’s believed that Philadelphia is in the mix, with the No. 5 pick in the draft the centerpiece of any potential package. The Flyers — who are always in win-now mode — also have Florida’s 2024 first-round pick (top-10 protected; it would become a 2025 first-rounder if it falls in the top 10 in 2024) from the Claude Giroux trade. Would those two picks, plus a good-but-not-great prospect be enough? Davidson is hoping that as draft day approaches, the pressure will ratchet up and he can get more for DeBrincat, a bona fide star who is among the league’s best goal scorers and has become a very good two-way player who even kills penalties. But if no one else steps up to the plate with a better offer, the Flyers are a very real possibility.

I do think Philly and Chicago are engaged on Alex DeBrincat. Definitely. What I'd heard was that things being talked about there included the 5th overall pick, the one the Flyers have in Thursday's draft.

Elliotte Friedman
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 5 @ 11:57 AM ET
^Friedman this morning said Flyers have talked to Blackhawks for a potential trade that does not include #5OA.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:00 PM ET
Can't wait to see what Arizona does.

They have picks at 3, 27, 32, 34, 36, 43 and 45.

- Feanor


Neither can their 17 fans!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:01 PM ET
It’s believed that Philadelphia is in the mix, with the No. 5 pick in the draft the centerpiece of any potential package. The Flyers — who are always in win-now mode — also have Florida’s 2024 first-round pick (top-10 protected; it would become a 2025 first-rounder if it falls in the top 10 in 2024) from the Claude Giroux trade. Would those two picks, plus a good-but-not-great prospect be enough? Davidson is hoping that as draft day approaches, the pressure will ratchet up and he can get more for DeBrincat, a bona fide star who is among the league’s best goal scorers and has become a very good two-way player who even kills penalties. But if no one else steps up to the plate with a better offer, the Flyers are a very real possibility.

I do think Philly and Chicago are engaged on Alex DeBrincat. Definitely. What I'd heard was that things being talked about there included the 5th overall pick, the one the Flyers have in Thursday's draft.



Elliotte Friedman

- SuperSchennBros



Add DeBrincat and lose no real roster players? While that improves the on ice team, I don't see how they pay him, doesn't he have to be qualified over 9? He is a really good player, he is young but time will tell how he plays away from Kane. I don't see how they give him that kind of money and build a team. They are not 1 player away, he is a younger mans JG?
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 5 @ 12:02 PM ET
^Friedman this morning said Flyers have talked to Blackhawks for a potential trade that does not include #5OA.
- arichardson22

I’m good with any player going not named Provorov or Hart. Just don’t trade the 5th overall pick.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 5 @ 12:02 PM ET
The Flyers top picks in franchise history were all "off the board" selections:

- Clarke w/ his Type 1 Diabetes, nobody thought he could even have a career,
- Foppa was considered a huge reach at #6 at the time,
- G was less of a reach, but also not ranked highly pre-draft.

And the best guy that Fletcher/Flahr ever picked was a an extremely undersized 5th-round pick out of small town in Russia that they knew they would struggle to get signed.

Moral: being "NHL-ready", toolsy and topping the rankings are cool on draft day, but they often don't have as much to do with who's actually gonna to be the best player years down the road.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 5 @ 12:09 PM ET
I’m good with any player going not named Provorov or Hart. Just don’t trade the 5th overall pick.
- SuperSchennBros


Apparently Flyers said #5 is “off the table”. Which I’m happy about.
Dave21Brown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 12.09.2018

Jul 5 @ 12:14 PM ET
Apparently Flyers said #5 is “off the table”. Which I’m happy about.
- arichardson22

That’s what Friedman reported this morning.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:16 PM ET
This draft could be weird. I know Wright has been the consensus number one and I still think he goes to Montreal but after that I have seen so many different orders for players.

I would not be surprised to see Gauthier sneak into the top 4. I saw one order that had Nemec and Jiricek going 3 and 4 and Cooley dropping to 5.

I wonder with it being a weaker draft do we see more picks moved this year and trying to get 2023 picks.



ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 5 @ 12:19 PM ET
This draft could be weird. I know Wright has been the consensus number one and I still think he goes to Montreal but after that I have seen so many different orders for players.

I would not be surprised to see Gauthier sneak into the top 4. I saw one order that had Nemec and Jiricek going 3 and 4 and Cooley dropping to 5.

I wonder with it being a weaker draft do we see more picks moved this year and trying to get 2023 picks.

- J35Bacher

Great spot to be at 5 it seems, other teams essentially making the decision for us. If one of the kids outside the “consensus” top 5 goes before we do, even better.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Jul 5 @ 12:20 PM ET
Bill, in what ballpark do you see Ivan Miroshnichenko going? Seems to have top 10 talent and is supposedly on his way to recovery from his illness - if you can believe anything out of Russia these days.
Dave21Brown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 12.09.2018

Jul 5 @ 12:20 PM ET
The Flyers top picks in franchise history were all "off the board" selections:

- Clarke w/ his Type 1 Diabetes, nobody thought he could even have a career,
- Foppa was considered a huge reach at #6 at the time,
- G was less of a reach, but also not ranked highly pre-draft.

And the best guy that Fletcher/Flahr ever picked was a an extremely undersized 5th-round pick out of small town in Russia that they knew they would struggle to get signed.

Moral: being "NHL-ready", toolsy and topping the rankings are cool on draft day, but they often don't have as much to do with who's actually gonna to be the best player years down the road.

- Tomahawk

Rick Tocchet was a 6th round pick, one of the best Flyers players ever. 400+ career goals and tough as nails. Even Brian Propp at 14th overall was a great pick.
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