Jeremy Laura: Kings win 5-3 on two empty net goals

Great article today JL.

Two empty net goals means Blash was pushing hard to get back. Hopefully pressure with this group will produce diamonds?

Stay well

Blaming Blashill for pulling the goalie is stupid.

Maybe Blash should have done the Waaaaah (Roy) thing and pull the goalie with 10 minutes left!
Who knows what would happen with the element of surprise!

Not mocking anyone here, coaching hockey is not a perfect science.

Sounds an awful lot like something Kooleus would say......

Maybe Blash should have done the Waaaaah (Roy) thing and pull the goalie with 10 minutes left!
Who knows what would happen with the element of surprise!

Not mocking anyone here, coaching hockey is not a perfect science.
- HenryHockey

It's not, for sure. But, then again, we don't have a scientist behind the bench, sooooooo

I was on the fence when I saw the G pull; tie game, etc... When the 1st EN hit, I turned the game off. Pulling the G is a hard call, I'd imagine. I would think there's a TON of feedback from the other coaches (tends, etc...). Regardless, I think there needs to be a coaching change, said it for along time. Just seems Blash has issues developing a strong team, or putting forth a philosophy that enhances development of both the team and the kids.

Hard to watch last night, you could see the wheels shake/wobble, then fall off. The game (and Jan/part of Feb) shows there are still gaps and development that need attention.

It's not, for sure. But, then again, we don't have a scientist behind the bench, sooooooo

I was on the fence when I saw the G pull; tie game, etc... When the 1st EN hit, I turned the game off. Pulling the G is a hard call, I'd imagine. I would think there's a TON of feedback from the other coaches (tends, etc...). Regardless, I think there needs to be a coaching change, said it for along time. Just seems Blash has issues developing a strong team, or putting forth a philosophy that enhances development of both the team and the kids.

Hard to watch last night, you could see the wheels shake/wobble, then fall off. The game (and Jan/part of Feb) shows there are still gaps and development that need attention.
- mcmastermike1968

Tie game? What are you going on about?

It's not, for sure. But, then again, we don't have a scientist behind the bench, sooooooo

I was on the fence when I saw the G pull; tie game, etc... When the 1st EN hit, I turned the game off. Pulling the G is a hard call, I'd imagine. I would think there's a TON of feedback from the other coaches (tends, etc...). Regardless, I think there needs to be a coaching change, said it for along time. Just seems Blash has issues developing a strong team, or putting forth a philosophy that enhances development of both the team and the kids.

Hard to watch last night, you could see the wheels shake/wobble, then fall off. The game (and Jan/part of Feb) shows there are still gaps and development that need attention.
- mcmastermike1968

Hey Mike. I 100% agree with you. Tie game. 3-3. Puzzling move to pull the goalie there and let in two EN to go down 5-3. I was on the fence just like you. Solid analysis. Tell us more.

Tie game? What are you going on about?
- Feds91Stammer

Sorry, mis-typed (typing too fast & not checking before I hit "Send"....I do that too often); I meant "time left in the game".....

The point I was trying to make was pulling the goalie towards the end of the game is not an exact science (the reference made to Roy in an earlier post, etc...).

Definitely need to review what I type before I send and make sure the tie-in makes sense and is better articulated!

Sorry, mis-typed (typing too fast & not checking before I hit "Send"....I do that too often); I meant "time left in the game".....

The point I was trying to make was pulling the goalie towards the end of the game is not an exact science (the reference made to Roy in an earlier post, etc...).

Definitely need to review what I type before I send and make sure the tie-in makes sense and is better articulated!
- mcmastermike1968

Gotcha.

Statistically he pulled the goalie too late.

The maximum likelihood is 26% ± 4% at the 03:00 mark on the game clock. In other words, pulling the goalie with 3 mins left in the 3rd period has historically yielded a 1/4 chance of success.

https://galea.medium.com/...goalie-pulls-9fad2a6caceb

Gotcha.

Statistically he pulled the goalie too late.

https://galea.medium.com/...goalie-pulls-9fad2a6caceb
- Feds91Stammer

I knew if there was a stat for this, you'd find it!! Thanks.

So Veleno scored late in the 3d with an Assist from GEMEL Smith! Ge. Smith had a decent Detroit debut; a "fight" and an Assist?!?!? Would've been cool for him to log a Gordie Howe Hat-Trick He seemed pretty energized during his limited TOI.

Frustrating game, overall. Ras scored, finally. The remainder of the season's going to be just as tough as Jan & this far in Feb have been, though

I knew if there was a stat for this, you'd find it!! Thanks.

So Veleno scored late in the 3d with an Assist from GEMEL Smith! Ge. Smith had a decent Detroit debut; a "fight" and an Assist?!?!? Would've been cool for him to log a Gordie Howe Hat-Trick He seemed pretty energized during his limited TOI.

Frustrating game, overall. Ras scored, finally. The remainder of the season's going to be just as tough as Jan & this far in Feb have been, though
- mcmastermike1968

Gemel is a way better skater than Givani and he fought that POS so he had a good debut.

Gemel is a way better skater than Givani and he fought that POS so he had a good debut.
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah, wholly agree with the skating ability....I was impressed with his short amount of time last night. Hopefully, he develops and adapts to the system here. Seems like a good kid. I am NOT a fan of Claude, nor his off-spring

Now that Verbeek is the Ducks GM, does he let Linholm go to FA so Stevie can sign him? Asking for a friend.

Now that Verbeek is the Ducks GM, does he let Linholm go to FA so Stevie can sign him? Asking for a friend.
- HenryHockey

LOL, great thought, will we see action between Ducks and Wings?

Now that Verbeek is the Ducks GM, does he let Linholm go to FA so Stevie can sign him? Asking for a friend.
- HenryHockey

It's Lindholm, not Linholm. Not extending doesn't necessarily mean the Wings do. 30 other teams have a say in that. What's more likely is that two GMs who know each other and trust each other make a trade from time to time. Even something as basic as moving up or down in the draft becomes easier with a GM with a high degree of trust. Basic stuff.

Now that Verbeek is the Ducks GM, does he let Linholm go to FA so Stevie can sign him? Asking for a friend.
- HenryHockey

He will trade Zegras, Drysdale and McTavish to Detroit for Rasmussen, Zadina and Lindstrom. Then he will let Lindholm walk so he signs with the Wings. After that he will get fired and then come back to work for Yzerman. All part of Yzerman's rebuild plan.

Gotcha.

Statistically he pulled the goalie too late.



https://galea.medium.com/...goalie-pulls-9fad2a6caceb
- Feds91Stammer

How many times has pulling the goalie worked for the Wings this season? Wings have got to be leading the league in empty net goals allowed by a wide margin. How many goals have they scored with the goalie pulled...one or two? It's not working with this team.

I'm not saying he should never do it at all but down by 2 is a waste of time and he just allows the other teams to pad their stats and make the Wings goal differential worst.

How many times has pulling the goalie worked for the Wings this season? Wings have got to be leading the league in empty net goals allowed by a wide margin. How many goals have they scored with the goalie pulled...one or two? It's not working with this team.

I'm not saying he should never do it at all but down by 2 is a waste of time and he just allows the other teams to pad their stats and make the Wings goal differential worst.
- dcz28

Yeah they should just take a knee and run the clock out…

How many times has pulling the goalie worked for the Wings this season? Wings have got to be leading the league in empty net goals allowed by a wide margin. How many goals have they scored with the goalie pulled...one or two? It's not working with this team.

I'm not saying he should never do it at all but down by 2 is a waste of time and he just allows the other teams to pad their stats and make the Wings goal differep worst.
- dcz28

He pulled the goalie when we were down by 2? Did you watch the game with Mike?

He pulled the goalie when we were down by 2? Did you watch the game with Mike?
- HockeyBuzzed

Blashill has done it plenty of times this season, i wasn't talking about the game against the Kings...like the last game against the Leafs for example.

Yeah they should just take a knee and run the clock out…
- Feds91Stammer

I would rather they just played out the game 5 on 5 but the result would likely be the same as taking a knee.

I would rather they just played out the game 5 on 5 but the result would likely be the same as taking a knee.
- dcz28

I mean in this game Veleno would have had the tying goal if they hadn't pulled the goalie. Of course that's looking in hindsight so I'm not going to blame them for trying. They really need to work on possession though because it gets turned over for an empty netter just about every time they try.

I would rather they just played out the game 5 on 5 but the result would likely be the same as taking a knee.
- dcz28

Pulling the goalie is statistically the right play.

According to my rough back-of-the-envelope math, pulling the goalie with 2-3 minutes to play roughly doubles your chances of tying the game and getting to OT versus playing it out at 5-on-5.

It also quadruples your chances of giving up a goal, but who cares if you lose in regulation by 1 or by 2? A loss is a loss.

He pulled the goalie when we were down by 2? Did you watch the game with Mike?
- HockeyBuzzed

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