Sean Maloughney: Rumour: Oilers Looking at Gulutzan or Woodcroft For Next Head Coach

Sean Maloughney: Rumour: Oilers Looking at Gulutzan or Woodcroft For Next Head Coach
- freelancer

And suck it Rattager.


I don’t like either of those choices. It’s more of the same imo. Anyone can run a pp with the personnel the oilers have. What they need is more defensive structure.

No to Gulutzan. Woodcroft is a better choice.
Hard no to Babcock.
Torts would be amazing just to demolish the Oilers media. Love to see him laugh in the face of Matheson or tell Spector to buzz off.
Rikard Gronborg would be interesting. Perhaps with Woodcroft on staff.
A more conventional option would be Lane Lambert.
I keep hearing great things about Rocky Thompson's philosophy on offense.

Why not Babcock?

Babcock’s wife already vetoed a move back to northern Alberta a few years back. There is no chance they will be moving to Edmonton.
People just bring him up because of the Holland connection.

I think Woodcroft is 100% the right choice if they decide to make the move.

Knows a lot of the players from having a hand in their development, and coming from the AHL, I don't see him having that veteran bias we're seeing with the Oilers lineups right now. I think he'd be able to ice a quality lineup with the players he's got and do a much better job with TOI distribution.

Klingberg asked to be traded.

Nice to see the Alts playing nice tonight .

"If" there is a coaching change, I think it will be Babcock...and I would be extremely happy with that. There are some MEN on this team that would respond well (no Toronto softies).

I really think it is what some of these guys need. Babs would push Draisaitl to be a serious MVP contender every year, their personalities really fit, possibly McDavid too. Nurse?!?! Wow...Nurse would run through a fkn wall for that coach!

I do think I'd go goalie searching before coach searching however.

Klingberg asked to be traded.
- TurdFergeson

Yeah, we could really use this guy!

Clearly I'm no Babcock fan, but between the whiners on this site against Deangelo, Ek sponsoring BLM and comments like this (below) maybe it's time for this site to perhaps start covering another sport that's more their speed. Something with less athleticism, personality and aggression - WNBA perhaps?

"...Mike Babcock is an absolute non-starter for me both with his past history of player abuse"

Clearly I'm no Babcock fan, but between the whiners on this site against Deangelo, Ek sponsoring BLM and comments like this (below) maybe it's time for this site to perhaps start covering another sport that's more their speed. Something with less athleticism, personality and aggression - WNBA perhaps?

"...Mike Babcock is an absolute non-starter for me both with his past history of player abuse"



- babcockblows

Man, that was some cool stuff Right on

If they just change the coach, I don’t see the point.

How about
Broberg and Koskinen
for
Halak
I know it looks gross but,
Koskinen is UFA at the end of the season and can play a backup roll. He really sucks as an overworked starter. Canucks take take that hit for the rest of the year and get a ready Dman prospect for it. The Oil get a goalie that can play minutes and a bit of cap space. Holland is running out of options to improve the goaltending. It will come with a premium cost to lose the Koskinen contract to make cap space and the help the Oil with a goalie lifeline premium as well. And I don't think that both Holland and Tippett want to risk their jobs any longer with a broken 40 yr old Smith, Koskinen, or a rookie starter. Both of them don't believe in starting rookies at any position, let alone goal.
Currently based on Points Pct, they are out of the playoffs. If they miss, they are gone, if they trade their 1st, and miss the playoffs, they are drawn and quartered.
They are in a really tough, made by their own mistakes, wasting 30 mil plus cap space, spot.

I feel sorry for you guys that you have Holland as GM. Just wait until your core players start to age. Then things will really go downhill quick. Holland does not believe in rebuilds. In fact.. he'll just overpay mediocre veterans in an effort to barely qualify for the playoffs... and then get swept in the first round of course year after year.

Holland did some really good moves for the Wings before the salary cap. He was good at adding a supplemental piece before the playoffs each year back when the Wings were totally stacked with superstar talent (Federov, Lidstrom, Konstantinov, etc... I do appreciate some of the things he did many years ago. But the NHL has passed him by... and he never adapted and/or changed to keep up with it.

Beware.... Holland does not like to make trades and he sucks at them when he does make them. He over-pays the veterans and will put your team in salary cap hell.... He delayed the proper rebuild in Detroit a good 5 years easy. And left a huge mess for Stevie Y to clean up and get the team out of salary cap hell with very little talent.

Common Holland quotes all Red Wing Fans hate:
"Trades are hard"
"The Detroit Fans don't want a rebuild"
"Rebuilds don't always work"
"Tie goes to the veteran"

Thank goodness Stevie Yzerman is now running the show in Detroit. He's done an amazing job since taking over and the team is starting to turn the corner.

Just my 2 cents on Mike Babcock after he coached many years in Detroit. He is actually a very good coach IMO. He's not perfect... but he was very effective in getting the the most out of his players while in Detroit. Not sure about all that happened in Toronto... but he does know how to win. He's got a Stanley Cup ring for a reason.

How about
Broberg and Koskinen
for
Halak
I know it looks gross but,
Koskinen is UFA at the end of the season and can play a backup roll. He really sucks as an overworked starter. Canucks take take that hit for the rest of the year and get a ready Dman prospect for it. The Oil get a goalie that can play minutes and a bit of cap space. Holland is running out of options to improve the goaltending. It will come with a premium cost to lose the Koskinen contract to make cap space and the help the Oil with a goalie lifeline premium as well. And I don't think that both Holland and Tippett want to risk their jobs any longer with a broken 40 yr old Smith, Koskinen, or a rookie starter. Both of them don't believe in starting rookies at any position, let alone goal.
Currently based on Points Pct, they are out of the playoffs. If they miss, they are gone, if they trade their 1st, and miss the playoffs, they are drawn and quartered.
They are in a really tough, made by their own mistakes, wasting 30 mil plus cap space, spot.
- carsonagenic

How about you shove a steak knife in your dickhole.

How about you shove a steak knife in your Richardhole.
- TurdFergeson

So what is your solution to the problem Mr. TurdHolland?

So what is your solution to the problem Mr. TurdHolland?
- carsonagenic

Step 1. Fire Tippett, Holland, Nicholson, all assistants and front office.
There is no quick fix to the mess and it won’t be fixed by a single trade mid season.

Step 1. Fire Tippett, Holland, Nicholson, all assistants and front office.
There is no quick fix to the mess and it won’t be fixed by a single trade mid season.
- TurdFergeson

That would be the smart move in a perfect world. Katz will not do that before the season is up. if at all. And do McD and Drai just say, "oh well another 100 points plus from us and miss the playoffs and its all good"?
Big issues might cause Holland to act and he has very little chips left to play with after spending like a drunken idiot in the off season.

Looking at the league and without getting into stupid stuff like Price, as was suggested by Stauffer yesterday, what is available out there really? Fleury is huge bucks and cost so can't see that happening.
No team that is any good is trading its starter so really the only market is a backup with experience that can hopefully handle decent minutes.
So
Valarmov
Halak
Anderson
Elliott
Allen
Jones
Murray
or
unproven
Swayman
Georgiev

Do you roll the dice on Georgiev? That will cost a lot, on top of the salary cap dump premium. And the Rangers, I doubt highly move him. Plus there is Skinner on the horizon. and he should be a good goalie going forward, but not yet. And do you want to throw him in this situation, with Tippett as well? They almost just have to bite the bullet and sign a solid veteran on the cheap as that's all they can afford, to play with Smith, and make the playoffs.
Hello Halak

Looking at the league and without getting into stupid stuff like Price, as was suggested by Stauffer yesterday, what is available out there really? Fleury is huge bucks and cost so can't see that happening.
No team that is any good is trading its starter so really the only market is a backup with experience that can hopefully handle decent minutes.
So
Valarmov
Halak
Anderson
Elliott
Allen
Jones
Murray
or
unproven
Swayman
Georgiev

Personally I would roll the dice on Georgiev, but that will cost alot, on top of the salary cap dump premium. And the Rangers, I doubt highly move him. Plus there is Skinner on the horizon. should be a good goalie going forward, but not yet. And do you want to throw him in this situation, with Tippett as well? They almost just have to bite the bullet and sign a solid veteran on the cheap as that's all they can afford, to play with Smith, and make the playoffs.
- carsonagenic

The only two that I think are actual starters are Varlomov and potentially Georgiev. Both would be costly and neither would fix the oilers goals against on their own. Defence, bottom 6 and playing structure changes are also needed if they want to be a good team.

The only two that I think are actual starters are Varlomov and potentially Georgiev. Both would be costly and neither would fix the oilers goals against on their own. Defence, bottom 6 and playing structure changes are also needed if they want to be a good team.
- TurdFergeson

100% agree. And it didn't take a knife to ream out any hole either...

How about
Broberg and Koskinen
for
Halak
- carsonagenic

Jesus (frank). The cost to save not even 3mil in pro-rated cap this year isn't a blue chip D prospect. And that's without even mentioning the bonuses on Halak's contract that would cost the Oil cap next year. That suggestion is pure delusion.

How about
Broberg and Koskinen
for
Halak
I know it looks gross but,
Koskinen is UFA at the end of the season and can play a backup roll. He really sucks as an overworked starter. Canucks take take that hit for the rest of the year and get a ready Dman prospect for it. The Oil get a goalie that can play minutes and a bit of cap space. Holland is running out of options to improve the goaltending. It will come with a premium cost to lose the Koskinen contract to make cap space and the help the Oil with a goalie lifeline premium as well. And I don't think that both Holland and Tippett want to risk their jobs any longer with a broken 40 yr old Smith, Koskinen, or a rookie starter. Both of them don't believe in starting rookies at any position, let alone goal.
Currently based on Points Pct, they are out of the playoffs. If they miss, they are gone, if they trade their 1st, and miss the playoffs, they are drawn and quartered.
They are in a really tough, made by their own mistakes, wasting 30 mil plus cap space, spot.
- carsonagenic

The Oilers aren't giving a divisional rival a top 5 team prospect and koskinen for another koskinen. That is a Chiarelli move.

Jesus (frank). The cost to save not even 3mil in pro-rated cap this year isn't a blue chip D prospect. And that's without even mentioning the bonuses on Halak's contract that would cost the Oil cap next year. That suggestion is pure delusion.
- MaximumBone

Ya it was a big ask
But it got the conversation going on this decrepit thread.
Still Holland will have to do something, and whatever it might be is scary or should be to Oil Country.