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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Dec 8 @ 3:12 PM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs win over Columbus without Marner, Spezza
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:15 PM ET
Good start not the best ending but got the win.

And first
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:19 PM ET
Ian Cole gets no suspension.

The idea of the outcome determining the punishment is pretty silly IMO, if you want to get this garbage out of the game. Players are gonna continue to roll the dice with dangerous plays.

It's honestly pretty dumb that Pionk got 2 and Cole got 0.

Saw this on twatter somewhere

https://nhlwheelofjustice.netlify.app/
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:22 PM ET
Ian Cole gets no suspension.

The idea of the outcome determining the punishment is pretty silly IMO, if you want to get this garbage out of the game. Players are gonna continue to roll the dice with dangerous plays.

It's honestly pretty dumb that Pionk got 2 and Cole got 0.

- TheMussel

I mean there is an obvious difference when you watch.

Cole's shoulder is leading the hit(same or further than his knee)

Pionk totally leading with his knee.

But you still aren't wrong. Pionk should have gotten 3-5 and Cole 1-2.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 8 @ 3:25 PM ET
I mean there is an obvious difference when you watch.

Cole's shoulder is leading the hit(same or further than his knee)

Pionk totally leading with his knee.

But you still aren't wrong. Pionk should have gotten 3-5 and Cole 1-2.

- Santo_44


Yup
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:26 PM ET
I mean there is an obvious difference when you watch.

Cole's shoulder is leading the hit(same or further than his knee)

Pionk totally leading with his knee.

But you still aren't wrong. Pionk should have gotten 3-5 and Cole 1-2.

- Santo_44


Looks to me like he's leading with his knee.

Like, he stuck it out as far as it would go
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:38 PM ET
Looks to me like he's leading with his knee.

Like, he stuck it out as far as it would go

- TheMussel

His knee and his shoulder. Watch in slow motion...Cole is extending his shoulder to go for shoulder on shoulder contact. That did not happen whatsoever for Pionk.

They screwed themselves with the Pionk knee on knee. They set a pretty horrible standard.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:42 PM ET
His knee and his shoulder. Watch in slow motion...Cole is extending his shoulder to go for shoulder on shoulder contact. That did not happen whatsoever for Pionk.

They screwed themselves with the Pionk knee on knee. They set a pretty horrible standard.

- Santo_44


This angle I think gets it pretty well, you can see that his knee is all the way out front before he moves his shoulder.

His shoulder move almost looks like he's bracing himself or adding momentum to the knee

https://twitter.com/WaltR...tatus/1468419767740608514

And not saying this to minimize Pionk's knee, but he leans the shoulder in towards Sandin as well.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Dec 8 @ 3:43 PM ET
Ian Cole gets no suspension.

The idea of the outcome determining the punishment is pretty silly IMO, if you want to get this garbage out of the game. Players are gonna continue to roll the dice with dangerous plays.

It's honestly pretty dumb that Pionk got 2 and Cole got 0.

Saw this on twatter somewhere

https://nhlwheelofjustice.netlify.app/

- TheMussel


lol
on the wheel of justice
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:47 PM ET
This angle I think gets it pretty well, you can see that his knee is all the way out front before he moves his shoulder.

His shoulder move almost looks like he's bracing himself or adding momentum to the knee

https://twitter.com/WaltR...tatus/1468419767740608514

And not saying this to minimize Pionk's knee, but he leans the shoulder in towards Sandin as well.

- TheMussel


Cole's is much more obvious that it could have been unintentional due to him making more of an effort to make some shoulder contact.

It is still a suspendible play but Cole has a strong case that its just simply not as bad as the Pionk knee.

Plus lost in it all is he received a 5 min major...at least the refs did their job that game.

Regardless I am happy the NHL is getting exposed lately.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Dec 8 @ 3:48 PM ET
lol
on the wheel of justice

- dmnted

Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 8 @ 3:50 PM ET
Good start not the best ending but got the win.

And first

- Roadrunner75


They’re not ready yet
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 8 @ 3:55 PM ET
Cole's is much more obvious that it could have been unintentional due to him making more of an effort to make some shoulder contact.

It is still a suspendible play but Cole has a strong case that its just simply not as bad as the Pionk knee.

Plus lost in it all is he received a 5 min major...at least the refs did their job that game.

Regardless I am happy the NHL is getting exposed lately.

- Santo_44


Breaking News

The sporting world is shocked and saddened to learn that something bad has happened to the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Why do you think this is now a huge issue because we’re pissed about a suspension?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:59 PM ET
This angle I think gets it pretty well, you can see that his knee is all the way out front before he moves his shoulder.

His shoulder move almost looks like he's bracing himself or adding momentum to the knee

https://twitter.com/WaltR...tatus/1468419767740608514

And not saying this to minimize Pionk's knee, but he leans the shoulder in towards Sandin as well.

- TheMussel

reminded me of this beauty
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Dec 8 @ 4:03 PM ET
This angle I think gets it pretty well, you can see that his knee is all the way out front before he moves his shoulder.

His shoulder move almost looks like he's bracing himself or adding momentum to the knee

https://twitter.com/WaltR...tatus/1468419767740608514

And not saying this to minimize Pionk's knee, but he leans the shoulder in towards Sandin as well.

- TheMussel

The comments are spectacular!!!
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 8 @ 4:39 PM ET
The comments are spectacular!!!
- underhill14


I love all the Leafs fans chirping the stupidity of Jets fans.

"Am I wrong here. I don't see a penalty here", is probably my favourite one because it's actually serious from a Canes fan. (frank)ing what?
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Dec 8 @ 4:43 PM ET
Whoever appeals to the law against his
Fellow man is either a fool or a coward
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant
If I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven
Such is the rule of honor
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Dec 8 @ 4:54 PM ET
This angle I think gets it pretty well, you can see that his knee is all the way out front before he moves his shoulder.

His shoulder move almost looks like he's bracing himself or adding momentum to the knee

https://twitter.com/WaltR...tatus/1468419767740608514

And not saying this to minimize Pionk's knee, but he leans the shoulder in towards Sandin as well.

- TheMussel


what I learned from the short video clip is that there is a referee somewhere in the NHL who judged that kneeing was worthy of a 5 minute penalty.... and it would seem that if you call the penalty it avoids melee's from happening afterward.

guess its just a coincidence.

I wonder if Scheifele skated off the ice with his helmet in his hand making the victory sign.

just wondering..... who said Karma's a female dog?
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Dec 8 @ 5:07 PM ET
I love all the Leafs fans chirping the stupidity of Jets fans.

"Am I wrong here. I don't see a penalty here", is probably my favourite one because it's actually serious from a Canes fan. (frank)ing what?

- GreatGigInTheSky



I'm particularly fond of the ones saying "Shieffle got Pionk'd"
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Dec 8 @ 5:08 PM ET
Whoever appeals to the law against his
Fellow man is either a fool or a coward
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant
If I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven
Such is the rule of honor

- mr.sir

Much more eloquent but exactly what I was saying.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 8 @ 5:29 PM ET


I'm particularly fond of the ones saying "Shieffle got Pionk'd"

- underhill14


Didn't see that one.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 8 @ 5:43 PM ET
Whoever appeals to the law against his
Fellow man is either a fool or a coward
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant
If I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven
Such is the rule of honor

- mr.sir


Those were the days. I still miss my cave.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Dec 8 @ 5:52 PM ET
NHL Player Safety
@NHLPlayerSafe1y
·
22h
Toronto’s Nick Ritchie has been offered an in-person hearing via Zoom tomorrow afternoon for scoring on Columbus’s Elvis Merzlikins.

_____________________________

mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Dec 8 @ 6:01 PM ET
NHL Player Safety
@NHLPlayerSafe1y
·
22h
Toronto’s Nick Ritchie has been offered an in-person hearing via Zoom tomorrow afternoon for scoring on Columbus’s Elvis Merzlikins.

_____________________________


- GreatGigInTheSky

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Dec 8 @ 6:28 PM ET
I just read over on TSN that Cole got a 5K fine for his knee hit on Scheifele


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