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Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Nov 30 @ 6:43 PM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Growing as a Team
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Nov 30 @ 6:44 PM ET
Sorry to steamroll your comment with a new blog, K-Man!
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Nov 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
Sorry to steamroll your comment with a new blog, K-Man!
- Trevor_Neufeld_

Hey I’m ecstatic! 2 blogs in an hour after missing so much. It’s crazy how paddle boarding in Bahia de Concepcion takes a 2nd fiddle to the Flames when they’re playing so well.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Nov 30 @ 6:57 PM ET
Trevor Neufeld: Growing as a Team
- Trevor_Neufeld_

It behooves one to think that we outplayed & out possessioned the opposition the way we did & did not get one stinking fcking power play. Am I missing something?
Thanks Trevor!
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Nov 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
Kman I think Debrusk would be an ok acquisition but if we flipped them Monahan, I would want more than the rumoured 2nd & Vaaantanian (or whatever his name was)
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Nov 30 @ 7:13 PM ET
Kman I think Debrusk would be an ok acquisition but if we flipped them Monahan, I would want more than the rumoured 2nd & Vaaantanian (or whatever his name was)
- Kevin R

I agree Bruins need center help, Monahan for as bad he’s been is still a great pickup. You can’t deny all that goal scoring.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Nov 30 @ 9:27 PM ET
Sounds like i'm in the minority on Debrusk... just dont see who he could replace in our lineup and IMO he would rot in Daryl's doghouse if we bring him in.
Squeaky
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.26.2021

Nov 30 @ 10:22 PM ET
The Flames outplayed the Penguins from minute one to sixty five. You have to cherish times like these. They don’t come often for Flames fans.

What kind of nonsense is that? They’ve been the better team from start to finish in the vast majority of their games this year.

Not really sure what they were trying in OT, but hopefully we don’t see it again. Why didn’t Tkachuk or Monahan see a second of ice time. You want shooters and one timer guys for OT and that’s not really where Mangiapane excels. They should pair up Manahan and Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk, and Backlund and Mangiapane for OT.

Speaking of Mangiapane, someone needs to explain that Gaudreau was joking the other week when he was busting his balls for never passing. He’s really been trying to force the extra pass in the past few games, and it almost always just leads to a turnover.
Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

Nov 30 @ 11:08 PM ET
The Flames outplayed the Penguins from minute one to sixty five. You have to cherish times like these. They don’t come often for Flames fans.

What kind of nonsense is that? They’ve been the better team from start to finish in the vast majority of their games this year.

Not really sure what they were trying in OT, but hopefully we don’t see it again. Why didn’t Tkachuk or Monahan see a second of ice time. You want shooters and one timer guys for OT and that’s not really where Mangiapane excels. They should pair up Manahan and Gaudreau, Lindholm and Tkachuk, and Backlund and Mangiapane for OT.

Speaking of Mangiapane, someone needs to explain that Gaudreau was joking the other week when he was busting his balls for never passing. He’s really been trying to force the extra pass in the past few games, and it almost always just leads to a turnover.

- Squeaky


The problem with Monahan and Tkachuk in OT is the speed. They were both on for OT losses this season. Fine, if you accept a turnover, where one falls or the other doesn't have the wheels to get back. The other issue last night with Monahan was he was really struggling on the draw. Lindholm was winning the most and Backlund was holding his own.

The difference with Mangiapane at home is that he gets the tough assignments with Backlund. Stifles the offence. On the road, the other teams line up their best against our top line. Backlund and Mangiapane get whomever th other teams decides to face a checking line. Most likely a 3rd or 4th line.
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Dec 1 @ 12:44 AM ET
What kind of nonsense is that? They’ve been the better team from start to finish in the vast majority of their games this year.

- Squeaky


How about the other 30 years prior to this year? Huh? How about 27/30 of those seasons?

Then you go on to complain about an overtime where the Flames out-chanced the other team 5-1. Chill.
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Dec 1 @ 9:10 AM ET
Sounds like i'm in the minority on Debrusk... just dont see who he could replace in our lineup and IMO he would rot in Daryl's doghouse if we bring him in.
- DEDDIE

I'm with you. He doesn't move the needle at all. The Flames haven't done very well with reclamation projects in the past if memory serves.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Dec 1 @ 9:18 AM ET
Monahan for Max Domi?

Domi might excel in a Sutter system.

Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Dec 1 @ 10:51 AM ET
I'm with you. He doesn't move the needle at all. The Flames haven't done very well with reclamation projects in the past if memory serves.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

Debrusk had some good stats early on & would be a very good 3rd liner who under Sutter & a change of scenery could work his way up the line up. If we could parlay Monahan who has been playing 3rd line & get a few extra 2nds, plus Debrusk contract is up end of the year. He either plays his way to a new contract & will probably be had a lot cheaper or we flip him for fairly cheap as an RFA. Either way, we gain some badly needed cap space to deal with the other 4 that need raises.

I love the old Monahan but he is just so far from his 25-30 goal former self, Im not sure he'll get back to his old self. To get any value for him, you have to take back a contract/player like Debrusk & roll the dice. I would certainly look at what other options are out there from the likes of Ottawa & Buffalo but unfortunately is what it is.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Dec 1 @ 10:53 AM ET
Monahan for Max Domi?

Domi might excel in a Sutter system.

- DuranDuran

Wouldnt be opposed to that but I would rather up the anti with Valamaki & a pick, 1st if we have to & try to swing Lianne. Imagine Lindholm, Gaudreau & Lianne & then Matty with Backlund & Mangi. Not too shabby a top 6.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Dec 1 @ 11:31 AM ET
Wouldnt be opposed to that but I would rather up the anti with Valamaki & a pick, 1st if we have to & try to swing Lianne. Imagine Lindholm, Gaudreau & Lianne & then Matty with Backlund & Mangi. Not too shabby a top 6.
- Kevin R

Don’t forget
DeBrusk, Dube, Coleman
Nice looking top 9
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Dec 1 @ 11:45 AM ET
Debrusk had some good stats early on & would be a very good 3rd liner who under Sutter & a change of scenery could work his way up the line up. If we could parlay Monahan who has been playing 3rd line & get a few extra 2nds, plus Debrusk contract is up end of the year. He either plays his way to a new contract & will probably be had a lot cheaper or we flip him for fairly cheap as an RFA. Either way, we gain some badly needed cap space to deal with the other 4 that need raises.

I love the old Monahan but he is just so far from his 25-30 goal former self, Im not sure he'll get back to his old self. To get any value for him, you have to take back a contract/player like Debrusk & roll the dice. I would certainly look at what other options are out there from the likes of Ottawa & Buffalo but unfortunately is what it is.

- Kevin R

In this scenario were getting Debrusk plus 2nd round picks and cap space... I would support that 100% and be fine with Jake sitting in the press box if he doesn't produce and then not qualifying him next year.
Agree Mony looks unlikely to regain his past form so moving him makes sense.
It looks like we will be a legit buyer at this years deadline so having cap space will be very valuable.
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Dec 1 @ 12:02 PM ET
Debrusk had some good stats early on & would be a very good 3rd liner who under Sutter & a change of scenery could work his way up the line up. If we could parlay Monahan who has been playing 3rd line & get a few extra 2nds, plus Debrusk contract is up end of the year. He either plays his way to a new contract & will probably be had a lot cheaper or we flip him for fairly cheap as an RFA. Either way, we gain some badly needed cap space to deal with the other 4 that need raises.

I love the old Monahan but he is just so far from his 25-30 goal former self, Im not sure he'll get back to his old self. To get any value for him, you have to take back a contract/player like Debrusk & roll the dice. I would certainly look at what other options are out there from the likes of Ottawa & Buffalo but unfortunately is what it is.

- Kevin R

He's not even a good 3rd liner in Boston.

You honestly think the Flames could acquire a younger, cheaper, expiring player for Monahan AND get additional assets in return? DeBrusk is bad but Monahan is worse.

I don't disagree with you on Monahan but I think he's in Calgary until his contract is over. He's so bad right now no team is taking on almost $7 million dollars unless they're getting a sweetener in return.

Who fills in Monahan's spot? Ruzicka? Or more likely Richardson and with Ritchie being healthy Lewis filling Richardson's spot. Flames need to acquire centers, not left shooting left wings.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Dec 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
He's not even a good 3rd liner in Boston.

You honestly think the Flames could acquire a younger, cheaper, expiring player for Monahan AND get additional assets in return? DeBrusk is bad but Monahan is worse.

I don't disagree with you on Monahan but I think he's in Calgary until his contract is over. He's so bad right now no team is taking on almost $7 million dollars unless they're getting a sweetener in return.

Who fills in Monahan's spot? Ruzicka? Or more likely Richardson and with Ritchie being healthy Lewis filling Richardson's spot. Flames need to acquire centers, not left shooting left wings.

- Ol_Boy_Wop

Monahan has way more market value than Debrusk. & younger????? Debrusk is 25 & Monahan is 26. Not exactly a huge age gap. Monahan has way better numbers than Debrusk going back the last 3-4 years, there is just no comparison. Not asking for the moon for a few extra 2nd round picks.

Dube would slot back in at 3rd line centre, he was playing great at centre when we had Monahan on 4th line. Wouldnt bat an eye having Dube back there.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Dec 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
Monahan has way more market value than Debrusk. & younger????? Debrusk is 25 & Monahan is 26. Not exactly a huge age gap. Monahan has way better numbers than Debrusk going back the last 3-4 years, there is just no comparison. Not asking for the moon for a few extra 2nd round picks.

Dube would slot back in at 3rd line centre, he was playing great at centre when we had Monahan on 4th line. Wouldnt bat an eye having Dube back there.

- Kevin R


Mony being a C helps support this case too but i'm not sure what value he has at 6.375/per.... time will tell but i'm starting to think of him as a cap dump candidate knowing we can deploy the cap savings and do something big. If were willing to include some combination of our 1st, Coronato, Zary, Pelletier, Vali, Wolf, Ruzicka etc in a deal we could bring in a game changer at the deadline!
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Dec 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
Monahan has way more market value than Debrusk. & younger????? Debrusk is 25 & Monahan is 26. Not exactly a huge age gap. Monahan has way better numbers than Debrusk going back the last 3-4 years, there is just no comparison. Not asking for the moon for a few extra 2nd round picks.

Dube would slot back in at 3rd line centre, he was playing great at centre when we had Monahan on 4th line. Wouldnt bat an eye having Dube back there.

- Kevin R

A Monahan year is like three of anyone else's with the injuries he's had in the past.

I think you're overvaluing Monahan. Draft capital is the name of the game and teams aren't likely to give up valuable 2nd round picks for a guy that's been a poor skater by NHL standards his whole career and is getting worse.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Dec 1 @ 3:45 PM ET
A Monahan year is like three of anyone else's with the injuries he's had in the past.

I think you're overvaluing Monahan. Draft capital is the name of the game and teams aren't likely to give up valuable 2nd round picks for a guy that's been a poor skater by NHL standards his whole career and is getting worse.

- Ol_Boy_Wop


Agree. If the Flames can resign the big three, Monahan is a likely buyout candidate to free up room. If they can shed him right now, I say do it. For Debrusk would be fine and let him walk at the end of the year if he's not worth the $4.5 qualifying.
Fuddy-Fee
Calgary Flames
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 04.20.2017

Dec 1 @ 5:08 PM ET
IMO uniting the Tanev bros. Would be awesome. Sutter style player with speed and works his ass off. Cap is a bit steep but if you can get him in a Monahan package I’m happy. Slot him right into the 3rd line but move Dube to C. The other lines all stay in tact so it doesn’t mess with a lot of chemistry. Monahan is the Achilles heel on this team. Get ‘er done Tre
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Dec 1 @ 5:25 PM ET
This just came across my feed.

https://www.hockeyfights....bcNt3DmhT8--t5AyBCc4J8Ns8[url]

Good times.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Dec 1 @ 5:25 PM ET
IMO uniting the Tanev bros. Would be awesome. Sutter style player with speed and works his ass off. Cap is a bit steep but if you can get him in a Monahan package I’m happy. Slot him right into the 3rd line but move Dube to C. The other lines all stay in tact so it doesn’t mess with a lot of chemistry. Monahan is the Achilles heel on this team. Get ‘er done Tre
- Fuddy-Fee


I like the idea.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Dec 1 @ 6:03 PM ET
IMO uniting the Tanev bros. Would be awesome. Sutter style player with speed and works his ass off. Cap is a bit steep but if you can get him in a Monahan package I’m happy. Slot him right into the 3rd line but move Dube to C. The other lines all stay in tact so it doesn’t mess with a lot of chemistry. Monahan is the Achilles heel on this team. Get ‘er done Tre
- Fuddy-Fee

I suggested this a couple weeks ago was waiting for Trevor to add him as a potential pickup list. Guy plays like a Tasmanian devil, wouldn’t hurt the chemistry at all. Not sure Seattle would want to part with him.
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