Jacob Billington: Jets Earn One Point in Shootout Loss to Oilers, 2-1, Goaltending Showdown

The Jets need to change out Toninato and Nash on the 4th line as they get zero offensive/defensive/special team production from either of them. It would be great if the team could have a 4th line that could play 8 min a game and is capable of chipping in some offense. Gustafsson, Vesalainen and Perfetti and would give the top 3 lines a rest and play some offensive hockey and not be a defensive liability. They don't need another so called small checking line that plays less then 5 min a game. Lowry's line takes care of that. It won't happen due to Maurice's unexplainable love of old vets and his ability to flimflam the media, and the blind sheep that he gets a useful contribution out of his 4th line.

Jacob Billington: Jets Earn One Point in Shootout Loss to Oilers, 2-1, Goaltending Showdown
- Jacob Billington

Deserved a better outcome. Oh well. On to the next.

Deserved a better outcome. Oh well. On to the next.
- TurdFergeson

While watching thr Jets play, you can 100% say they deserved a better outcome.

Only issue with that, is when you focus on the Oilers game, they also deserved said better outcome. 47 saves from Skinner, Hyman, Nuge, Bison Man, they were all getting their good chances, on top of McDavid and Draisaitl. Very good game for both sides, both deserved 2 points.

The Jets need to change out Toninato and Nash on the 4th line as they get zero offensive/defensive/special team production from either of them. It would be great if the team could have a 4th line that could play 8 min a game and is capable of chipping in some offense. Gustafsson, Vesalainen and Perfetti and would give the top 3 lines a rest and play some offensive hockey and not be a defensive liability. They don't need another so called small checking line that plays less then 5 min a game. Lowry's line takes care of that. It won't happen due to Maurice's unexplainable love of old vets and his ability to flimflam the media, and the blind sheep that he gets a useful contribution out of his 4th line.
- islansjet

Come on, 8 minutes a game on the 4th line isn't the place for Perfetti right now.

Come on, 8 minutes a game on the 4th line isn't the place for Perfetti right now.
- JetFuel

8 minutes??

Ves had 4 mins, Toninato had 6 mins. Nash had 8.5 mins but he gets that juicy PP time...

Come on, 8 minutes a game on the 4th line isn't the place for Perfetti right now.
- JetFuel

Who would you rather see on the power play Nash or Perfetti?

Come on, 8 minutes a game on the 4th line isn't the place for Perfetti right now.
- JetFuel

I’m gonna play the game of Cole and Gus in for Toninato and Nash:

Connor-Dubois-Svech
Copp-Scheifele-Ehlers
Vesalainen-Stastny-Wheeler
Gustafsson-Lowry-Perfetti

Just roll 4 lines.
Perfetti and Wheeler make up the lost ice time on the powerplay.
Gus and Ves are now your second PK unit with Copp and Lowry

I’m gonna play the game of Cole and Gus in for Toninato and Nash:

Connor-Dubois-Svech
Copp-Scheifele-Ehlers
Vesalainen-Stastny-Wheeler
Gustafsson-Lowry-Perfetti

Just roll 4 lines.
Perfetti and Wheeler make up the lost ice time on the powerplay.
Gus and Ves are now your second PK unit with Copp and Lowry
- Rexypoo

I like the looks of that lineup

Who would you rather see on the power play Nash or Perfetti?
- islansjet

You're making the assumption that Maurice would put him on the powerplay, there's more then enough evidence that suggests he wouldn't therefore he's better off playing first line with the Moose.

8 minutes??

Ves had 4 mins, Toninato had 6 mins. Nash had 8.5 mins but he gets that juicy PP time...
- Pastor_Matt

I was just going off what islansjet said, we can't be certain Perfetti would get that sweet sweet powerplay time like Nash does.. 😃

I'll give Nash credit for his ability to win a faceoff at least, Scheifele kills so much time from the first unit with his constant losing of the draw.

I’m gonna play the game of Cole and Gus in for Toninato and Nash:

Connor-Dubois-Svech
Copp-Scheifele-Ehlers
Vesalainen-Stastny-Wheeler
Gustafsson-Lowry-Perfetti

Just roll 4 lines.
Perfetti and Wheeler make up the lost ice time on the powerplay.
Gus and Ves are now your second PK unit with Copp and Lowry
- Rexypoo

Lowry will always be the 3C with Maurice here so it's pointless to armchair line him anywhere else.
Wheeler shouldn't see power play time anymore, he's ineffective and loses the puck far too often but alas Maurice will keep rolling him out there.
I would like to see Gus centering line 4 with Vesalainen and Harkins or Stastny but they have a right hand shot hangup so the AHL is where he'll stay until injuries hit.

Come on, 8 minutes a game on the 4th line isn't the place for Perfetti right now.
- JetFuel

Young skilled players need to play with skilled players! End of story. Either leave him in the AHL or play him in the top 9 with the Jets. How many teams do this and ruin players? Over the years, you would think coaches would learn from other coaches mistakes!

Lowry will always be the 3C with Maurice here so it's pointless to armchair line him anywhere else.
Wheeler shouldn't see power play time anymore, he's ineffective and loses the puck far too often but alas Maurice will keep rolling him out there.
I would like to see Gus centering line 4 with Vesalainen and Harkins or Stastny but they have a right hand shot hangup so the AHL is where he'll stay until injuries hit.
- JetFuel

To be fair, I did make it a “yeehaw, f*ck it” lineup more than a reasonable expectation.

As for Wheeler, I think we would see a big jump from him with lighter minutes, and on a line where he isn’t constantly having to chase the play because Dubois and Connor refuse to do anything at 80% speed when they’re together

To be fair, I did make it a “yeehaw, f*ck it” lineup more than a reasonable expectation.

As for Wheeler, I think we would see a big jump from him with lighter minutes, and on a line where he isn’t constantly having to chase the play because Dubois and Connor refuse to do anything at 80% speed when they’re together
- Rexypoo

One beautiful thing about having Svechnikov on the Connor-Dubois line is that he is great at puck retrieval and creating turnovers, so that they do not have to get into the gritty areas. Wheeler kind of floats around the center of the ice and does not do the things that have made Connor and PLD so effective.

Young skilled players need to play with skilled players! End of story. Either leave him in the AHL or play him in the top 9 with the Jets. How many teams do this and ruin players? Over the years, you would think coaches would learn from other coaches mistakes!
- PuckPix

Very much agree, players need to be put in a position to succeed and not only will they benefit, the team likely will too.
Why is the reclamation project that is E.Svechnikov working out fairly well? One major reason is he's been put in a position to succeed by playing in the top 9, if he was stuck on the 4th line most would be saying he's junk/doesn't have it.

Would I like to see a 4th line of say Perfetti/ Gus/Vesalainen? Sure if they were getting at least a solid 12 minutes of ice time but I know Maurice will never do that so I won't bother to pontificate about what could be. Could be debated that the Jets probably ruined some players by putting them in the wrong spots.

What I will pontificate about is who can be slotted next to Lowry to get some goals out of that line, need more then just good defense and time wasted. I don't want to see Copp back there and not sure it'd be a good place for Wheeler if Maurice would even put the captain there so then who is it, need to find some wingers who can work with Lowry and actually put up some points.

To be fair, I did make it a “yeehaw, f*ck it” lineup more than a reasonable expectation.

As for Wheeler, I think we would see a big jump from him with lighter minutes, and on a line where he isn’t constantly having to chase the play because Dubois and Connor refuse to do anything at 80% speed when they’re together
- Rexypoo

Gotcha

I too think #26 would benefit from less minutes but I really don't think he's a fit next to Lowry on line three so then where does he go, really don't think swapping him with Ehlers and putting Wheeler with Copp and Scheifele will improve things much either though so far 9/55/27 hasn't taken off so guess it could be worth a look for awhile.

Idk, they're rolling along, winning games and collecting points but these lines still look pretty disjointed at times, that might be system related too though I suppose, they're still too spread apart in the offensive zone imo.

Gotcha

I too think #26 would benefit from less minutes but I really don't think he's a fit next to Lowry on line three so then where does he go, really don't think swapping him with Ehlers and putting Wheeler with Copp and Scheifele will improve things much either though so far 9/55/27 hasn't taken off so guess it could be worth a look for awhile.

Idk, they're rolling along, winning games and collecting points but these lines still look pretty disjointed at times, that might be system related too though I suppose, they're still too spread apart in the offensive zone imo.
- JetFuel

All in all, things are looking up for the Jets. I have been in agreement for reducing Wheelers TOI for well over a year now. He missed 3 consecutive passes last game, and none of them were overly difficult. He has looked borderline concussed to start this season. Hopefully that changes, but again his buyout option following this season is very reasonable, so hopefully Chevy gives that some serious thought. Only problem is that the Jets need to address their RW. Only actual Right shooting wingers on this team are Wheeler and Nash, both of which leave plenty of question marks. Perfetti needs to be explored further as a RW. If he can be effective, then this team could be set for a solid run. If not, Dallas is a dumpster fire and Radulov and Pavelski are both on expiring deals....

All in all, things are looking up for the Jets. I have been in agreement for reducing Wheelers TOI for well over a year now. He missed 3 consecutive passes last game, and none of them were overly difficult. He has looked borderline concussed to start this season. Hopefully that changes, but again his buyout option following this season is very reasonable, so hopefully Chevy gives that some serious thought. Only problem is that the Jets need to address their RW. Only actual Right shooting wingers on this team are Wheeler and Nash, both of which leave plenty of question marks. Perfetti needs to be explored further as a RW. If he can be effective, then this team could be set for a solid run. If not, Dallas is a dumpster fire and Radulov and Pavelski are both on expiring deals....
- bikeguy99

As much as I think Wheeler has declined I can't see them buying him out, I think ownership loves Wheeler, they probably want to build a statue of the guy outside the arena.

Could probably get Appleton back for a bag of pucks, like a 4th round pick or something is about all he's worth, he hasn't done anything in Seattle, he could fill a right hand shot hole in the lineup, can kill penalties and could maybe get that chemistry back that he had with Lowry.

As much as I think Wheeler has declined I can't see them buying him out, I think ownership loves Wheeler, they probably want to build a statue of the guy outside the arena.

Could probably get Appleton back for a bag of pucks, like a 4th round pick or something is about all he's worth, he hasn't done anything in Seattle, he could fill a right hand shot hole in the lineup, can kill penalties and could maybe get that chemistry back that he had with Lowry.
- JetFuel

Hey, Appleton would be great for a 4th, tho I would like to see a bigger splash. Raslovic has sure fizzled out as well in Columbus. But if Dallas is a seller, I wouldn't mind a bigger trade based on performance incentives. Either way, it would be in the Jets best interest to start shopping for a RW, or to better see if Perfetti can fill that void.

Pittsburgh is a shadow of its former self and as such the Jets should crush them tonight. I also think the Jets should look into trading for Malkin for an extended playoff run this year. Once he is healthy, we would be unstoppable.

Hey, Appleton would be great for a 4th, tho I would like to see a bigger splash. Raslovic has sure fizzled out as well in Columbus. But if Dallas is a seller, I wouldn't mind a bigger trade based on performance incentives. Either way, it would be in the Jets best interest to start shopping for a RW, or to better see if Perfetti can fill that void.
- bikeguy99

I think that Roslovic developed some good chemistry with Cam Atkinson last season and as such was doing well because of that. The loss of Atkinson has really affected his game.

Just thought I would throw something out there as a hypothetical situation. I was thinking with the Penguins looking more and more like they would be headed for a rebuild, perhaps there is a deal to made for Sidney Crosby.

Looking as to how he has 2 more years left on his deal. Would the following make sense?

To WPG: Sidney Crosby

To PIT: Blake Wheeler, Cole Perfetti, 2022 first round pick, 2025 first round pick

This deal would allow the Penguins to accelerate their rebuild. It would also make the Jets instant Stanley Cup contenders. The potential lines could look like:

Scheifele-Crosby-Ehlers
Connor-Dubois-Svechnikov
Copp-Lowry- Stastny
Harkins-Gustafson-Vesalainen

*I was going to bump Lowry to the 4th line, but we all know that Uncle Paul would never let that happen.

Just thought I would throw something out there as a hypothetical situation. I was thinking with the Penguins looking more and more like they would be headed for a rebuild, perhaps there is a deal to made for Sidney Crosby.

Looking as to how he has 2 more years left on his deal. Would the following make sense?

To WPG: Sidney Crosby

To PIT: Blake Wheeler, Cole Perfetti, 2022 first round pick, 2025 first round pick

This deal would allow the Penguins to accelerate their rebuild. It would also make the Jets instant Stanley Cup contenders. The potential lines could look like:

Scheifele-Crosby-Ehlers
Connor-Dubois-Svechnikov
Copp-Lowry- Stastny
Harkins-Gustafson-Vesalainen

*I was going to bump Lowry to the 4th line, but we all know that Uncle Paul would never let that happen.
- TheUltimateJet

No. Instant no.

Even if I thought Pittsburgh would go for it, I wouldn’t do it. Crosby was a generational player, no questions asked, but what he is right here and now is something Perfetti can become by the end of his ELC.

I love the ambition of it, you’re a maniac, but I’d rather ride Wheeler than Crosby if it means also having Perfetti and the next two USHL steals those picks give us

Hey, Appleton would be great for a 4th, tho I would like to see a bigger splash. Raslovic has sure fizzled out as well in Columbus. But if Dallas is a seller, I wouldn't mind a bigger trade based on performance incentives. Either way, it would be in the Jets best interest to start shopping for a RW, or to better see if Perfetti can fill that void.
- bikeguy99

They have no cap space for a bigger splash unless they trade someone out that makes more then a million but that doesn't seem likely, an Appelton type is all they could really fit.