John Gove: Talking Tarasenko and the chance he remains a Blue

John Gove: Talking Tarasenko and the chance he remains a Blue
- John.Gove

Word on the street is he will either remain a blue or the blues will get a very underwhelming return for him.

Lou is going to announce the trade at 4pm EST or to us centrals 3pm time.


SIT TIGHT

okay I'll take him

Word on the street is that you are a turd.....

If it is true hes willing to waive for anywhere at this point then what aboutsomething like tarasenko, thomas, and a 1st for eichel.

Is the market for a once 30-plus goal-scorer truly that dry?

This dude has played 34 games in the last 2 years. He's 1 big hit into the boards from not being able to lift a straw. I'm REALLY hoping the devils stay far away from trading for him.

Everyone knows he wants out of STL so no one wants to offer what Armstrong is likely considering to be fair value. Especially not with that shoulder history. If he gets traded at all, I highly doubt STL fans will be happy with the return.

So do you have a source for that assessment. My source says tarasenko Is 100% healthy. Of the 24 games he played last year he recorded over 30 hits. 4 goals 10 assists at .56ppg which is higher than Tatar. Lol imagine when tank hits 30+ goals this year can't wait.

This entire situation was brought upon Vladimir Tarasenko by Tarasenko himself! Let's all remember that Tarasenko fired his former agent, former Blues' goaltender, Mike Liut after speaking with his "buddy" and fellow Russian, Artemi Panarin, who by no coincidence ALSO has the same agent that Tarasenko now has. Hmmmm! This "new" agent of Tarasenko ALSO played the same game with the press and Panarin's former team, the Columbus Blue Jackets, in order to get Panarin to the New York Rangers. See any strange coincidences here? Now we have the same agent of Panarin now also representing Tarasenko speaking publicly to the press and trying to get Tarasenko traded. I just wonder if both Panarin and Tarasenko end up on the Rangers together. Collusion? Tampering by an agent? Same game, same strategy, all manufactured to get this agent's players on the SAME BIG MARKET TEAM so that they can also get lucrative advertising deals in a major market! I don't blame Doug Armstrong for being upset. This agent is not an NHL General Manager and does not run the St. Louis Blues! Tarasenko is still Blues' property for 2 more years. Nothing was wrong with Tarasenko's shoulder after returning from his first shoulder surgery. What did Tarasenko do? He helped the Blues win a Stanley Cup. Tarasenko said nothing then about a "botched" surgery by Blues' physicians. Why does Tarasenko's agent complain about botched surgeries NOW? Tarasenko's former agent, Mike Liut said nothing about any botched surgeries while he represented Tarasenko. Only after Tarasenko hires Panarin's agent does the AGENT bring up an "alleged" botched surgery in an effort to get his player traded. Something smells here. Mind you, throughout all of this Tarasenko has said NOTHING publicly. Only Tarasenko's agent is speaking to the press! I smell a rat!

I'd keep him. I'm fairly optimistic he will score in the neighborhood of 25 goals. He will fetch a first round pick at the 2023 deadline when his contract is expiring.

This entire situation was brought upon Vladimir Tarasenko by Tarasenko himself! Let's all remember that Tarasenko fired his former agent, former Blues' goaltender, Mike Liut after speaking with his "buddy" and fellow Russian, Artemi Panarin, who by no coincidence ALSO has the same agent that Tarasenko now has. Hmmmm! This "new" agent of Tarasenko ALSO played the same game with the press and Panarin's former team, the Columbus Blue Jackets, in order to get Panarin to the New York Rangers. See any strange coincidences here? Now we have the same agent of Panarin now also representing Tarasenko speaking publicly to the press and trying to get Tarasenko traded. I just wonder if both Panarin and Tarasenko end up on the Rangers together. Collusion? Tampering by an agent? Same game, same strategy, all manufactured to get this agent's players on the SAME BIG MARKET TEAM so that they can also get lucrative advertising deals in a major market! I don't blame Doug Armstrong for being upset. This agent is not an NHL General Manager and does not run the St. Louis Blues! Tarasenko is still Blues' property for 2 more years. Nothing was wrong with Tarasenko's shoulder after returning from his first shoulder surgery. What did Tarasenko do? He helped the Blues win a Stanley Cup. Tarasenko said nothing then about a "botched" surgery by Blues' physicians. Why does Tarasenko's agent complain about botched surgeries NOW? Tarasenko's former agent, Mike Liut said nothing about any botched surgeries while he represented Tarasenko. Only after Tarasenko hires Panarin's agent does the AGENT bring up an "alleged" botched surgery in an effort to get his player traded. Something smells here. Mind you, throughout all of this Tarasenko has said NOTHING publicly. Only Tarasenko's agent is speaking to the press! I smell a rat!

i agree with this 100% i have thought this all a long as well.

If something was wrong with the surgeries then speak up when it happens and not after the fact. Something just seems off with this whole thing

outside of that 91 isnt going anywhere he is going to play at least this year with the Blues and then they may try and trade him when his value is higher. I could be wrong but all this talk of him getting traded to all these east coast teams seems like all talk. Again we will see i guess we have a few months to hear all this garbage.

I'll trade you Evander Kane for Tarasenko straight up...

i agree with this 100% i have thought this all a long as well.

If something was wrong with the surgeries then speak up when it happens and not after the fact. Something just seems off with this whole thing

outside of that 91 isnt going anywhere he is going to play at least this year with the Blues and then they may try and trade him when his value is higher. I could be wrong but all this talk of him getting traded to all these east coast teams seems like all talk. Again we will see i guess we have a few months to hear all this garbage.
- bleedblue2007

This same agent represents Kaprisov and the Wild are having trouble signing him. I get it’s a business and the agent has to get the best deal for his client. But he’s playing games in the negotiation and I think this agent has his own agenda and he may be putting that ahead of the players interest.

I feel this is mostly just unfounded conspiracy theories!

Paul Theofanous’s track record with his top clients shows that he can get them good-to-lucrative contracts on the UFA market. Look at Panarin and Bobrovsky. He also convinced Varlamov to explore UFA rather that resign in COL and got him a good deal ($5M in 2019 for a then 31 yr old goalie is good). Now he’s got Kaprisov and Tarasenko. Based on his track record it’s more than likely he will have convinced them that he can get them top dollar and they have no reason to doubt him. The only way DA gets good return is if Tarasenko has a bounce back year or the return keeps getting lower every month.

On another note. Once you represent a certain ilk of clientele, very little that the agent does in the public domain (Twitter/IG) happens without the direct and/or implied consent of the client. The client pays the agent to represent his wishes. So PT is not saying the things he’s saying in public if it doesn’t come from Tarasenko. It was very much the same with MAF and his agent Allen Walsh. Having the agent just gives him a layer of insulation and some plausible deniability if there is backfire.

Pffff. Yeah he can get all the money and term in the world but that doesn't mean it's the best deal for his clients.

No one has learned from Luongo's struggles. All that money and term can come back to bite you and your happiness. At a certain point all the money in the world won't make you happy. You can only spend so much.

But you can't purchase your reputation or your happiness.

Pfft…a bit naive and you presume to know what makes him happy.

D Hamilton, poor reputation, just signed a ridiculous contract that no one saw happening in a flat cap year and he’s gone to a team that will compete for a playoff spot this year and could be very good in a couple of years. Numerous reports that he was the top UFA target for many teams. Reputation didn’t seem to disuade them…just their cap situation.

Webber signed a ridiculous contract (yes it was an offersheet but he still signed it) that everyone unanimously agreed was gross and that he would never play out. Didn’t his decision to sign a gross contract with a another team and force NAS to match it tarnish his reputation and he just went to the SCF.

The nhl landscape is littered with stories like this.Moral of the story for every agent… if you represent a top nhl player …your client can get grossly overpaid and still have a pretty successful NHL career.

I feel this is mostly just unfounded conspiracy theories!

Paul Theofanous’s track record with his top clients shows that he can get them good-to-lucrative contracts on the UFA market. Look at Panarin and Bobrovsky. He also convinced Varlamov to explore UFA rather that resign in COL and got him a good deal ($5M in 2019 for a then 31 yr old goalie is good). Now he’s got Kaprisov and Tarasenko. Based on his track record it’s more than likely he will have convinced them that he can get them top dollar and they have no reason to doubt him. The only way DA gets good return is if Tarasenko has a bounce back year or the return keeps getting lower every month.

On another note. Once you represent a certain ilk of clientele, very little that the agent does in the public domain (Twitter/IG) happens without the direct and/or implied consent of the client. The client pays the agent to represent his wishes. So PT is not saying the things he’s saying in public if it doesn’t come from Tarasenko. It was very much the same with MAF and his agent Allen Walsh. Having the agent just gives him a layer of insulation and some plausible deniability if there is backfire.
- Turnitaround

Not if you listen to the STLToday sports writers. They reported that PT has led a scorched earth campaign against Blues management which obviously wouldn't sit well with DA. Also in the 18-19 season VT had 33G and 35A and I think that was after his first shoulder surgery but I could be wrong about that.

Not if you listen to the STLToday sports writers. They reported that PT has led a scorched earth campaign against Blues management which obviously wouldn't sit well with DA. Also in the 18-19 season VT had 33G and 35A and I think that was after his first shoulder surgery but I could be wrong about that.
- Hockeyfan39

Hmmm…I’ll be honest, I haven’t listened to them. But I’d be cautious too and take what they say with a grain of salt. It’s like saying TSN reported that the Leafs are odds on favourites to win the cup this year. Yea right! There’s a bit of homerism and bending of the truth to be expected from the hometown media. They’re not going to be happy that their superstar wants out of town and that may colour their opinion somewhat

John Gove: Talking Tarasenko and the chance he remains a Blue
- John.Gove

https://fox2now.com/sport...kos-shoulder-dislocation/

https://fox2now.com/sports/st-louis-blues/well-known-orthopedic-surgeon-analyzes-tarasenkos-shoulder-dislocation/
- Hockeyfan39

Interesting.

Hmmm…I’ll be honest, I haven’t listened to them. But I’d be cautious too and take what they say with a grain of salt. It’s like saying TSN reported that the Leafs are odds on favourites to win the cup this year. Yea right! There’s a bit of homerism and bending of the truth to be expected from the hometown media. They’re not going to be happy that their superstar wants out of town and that may colour their opinion somewhat
- Turnitaround

Sports writers are paid to report what they hear and know. Are there some sour grapes with those writers, maybe. My opinion, FWIW, is VT was/is upset with not getting the captaincy and believes it reflected poorly on him with his teammates. But what do I know, he's gone, whether sooner or later he won't be a Blue.

Sports writers are paid to report what they hear and know. Are there some sour grapes with those writers, maybe. My opinion, FWIW, is VT was/is upset with not getting the captaincy and believes it reflected poorly on him with his teammates. But what do I know, he's gone, whether sooner or later he won't be a Blue.
- Hockeyfan39

Traditional beat reporters are paid to interview players, agents or team brass and report what they were told. bloggers, you tubers, sports radio, sports writers are paid to give opinions.

So do you have a source for that assessment. My source says tarasenko Is 100% healthy. Of the 24 games he played last year he recorded over 30 hits. 4 goals 10 assists at .56ppg which is higher than Tatar. Lol imagine when tank hits 30+ goals this year can't wait.
- BlueTaco

Hot dog vendor?

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- Nasty_Duck

No surgeons team doctors tarasenkos camp. The fact he played 31 games when he came back from injury....

Pffff. Yeah he can get all the money and term in the world but that doesn't mean it's the best deal for his clients.

No one has learned from Luongo's struggles. All that money and term can come back to bite you and your happiness. At a certain point all the money in the world won't make you happy. You can only spend so much.

But you can't purchase your reputation or your happiness.
- BluemanGuruu

Yeah, but what’s an agents job? Get them paid. That’s it. Happiness lies at the feet of the player. None of the intangibles are really an agents concern.

And it’s not just for that client, but also for their business. Steady high returns bump their value to future clientele.

An agent wants to point at their success financially to a player who’s seeing dollar signs. That’s the angle they take, not the “but look how happy so-an-so is! That’s what I helped with!”

Nope. Players usually get one shot at the big money deal when they hit free agency. Some get to double dip, but it’s usually just one trip to the money buffet, and they wanna load their plate, both for themselves, and their families.

Agents get you paid. Happiness is what you make of it. If you want to take a shorter deal to stay somewhere or go someplace in particular, then you can do that. But the agent wants to provide you with the most beneficial options financially.

After all, they get a percentage in this.

Can’t be mad at a snake for being a snake.