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Is a Voracek for Tarasenko Swap in the Works?
Word out there right now is both Tarasenko AND Voracek have asked to be traded, but the Blues and the Flyers are having a tough time moving the cap hits for each.. There is no question that both players still have something to give and plenty of skill. |
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jdkint
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Location: waynesboro, PA Joined: 03.04.2014
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Is a Voracek for Tarasenko Swap in the Works?
Word out there right now is both Tarasenko AND Voracek have asked to be traded, but the Blues and the Flyers are having a tough time moving the cap hits for each.. There is no question that both players still have something to give and plenty of skill. - HockeyBuzz
BRING ME TARASENKO |
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Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA Joined: 11.17.2018
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How does swapping bad contracts help either team? My goodness. |
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flyerdoug88
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Location: Corona, CA Joined: 07.22.2021
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How does swapping bad contracts help either team? My goodness. - Kooleus
I think the Flyers need a sniper like Tarasenko. They have enough playmakers like Voracek. Plus, the Flyers getting a Tarasenko for one less year is a bonus.
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How does swapping bad contracts help either team? My goodness. - Kooleus yes. Jake needs to go
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I hope it's been in the works for 2 weeks at this point.
It makes too much sense for it NOT to happen. |
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Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA Joined: 11.17.2018
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I think the Flyers need a sniper like Tarasenko. They have enough playmakers like Voracek. Plus, the Flyers getting a Tarasenko for one less year is a bonus. - flyerdoug88
That's neat. How does it help St.Louis clear cap space for Eichel and Landeskog? |
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How does swapping bad contracts help either team? My goodness. - Kooleus
Some players certainly benefit from a change of scenery and different linemates.
I'm drooling at the thought of giving Giroux a sniper to work with.
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goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 04.11.2014
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How does swapping bad contracts help either team? My goodness. - Kooleus
It is not only the contract but a group what did not work as expected
At least when you swap pieces you can try again
Tarasenko is a sniper can do easy 40 a season
Voracek is still a 75 points guy
But I dont think this swap will work |
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I'm thinking the Flyers are pushing not just for the swap, but also a D-man (probably for one of ours, or a prospect) to offset the cap difference and balance out the trade. Fletch made a great trade for Ellis, if he can pull this off......well, that would be something, wouldn't it? |
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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It is not only the contract but a group what did not work as expected
At least when you swap pieces you can try again
Tarasenko is a sniper can do easy 40 a season
Voracek is still a 75 points guy
But I dont think this swap will work - goenzoy
Tarasenko hit 40 goals once in his career five years ago. He has three surgeries on the same shoulder and has missed over 75% of the last two seasons. Playing again might not be "easy" much less at his peak level. |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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How does swapping bad contracts help either team? My goodness. - Kooleus
Because it's the closest to fair value that either side can get.
What's in it for St. Louis: healthier player and better playmaker, more productive overall recently.
For Philadelphia: a shoot-first winger, one less year of contract term (and a slight cap saving of $750K).
For both: A change in the mix and not being forced into trading from a position of weakness.
It makes sense. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Because it's the closest to fair value that either side can get.
What's in it for St. Louis: healthier player and better playmaker, more productive overall recently.
For Philadelphia: a shoot-first winger, one less year of contract term (and a slight cap saving of $750K).
For both: A change in the mix and not being forced into trading from a position of weakness.
It makes sense. - bmeltzer
it makes sense hockey wise. Now tell me that Tarasenko's shoulder is not an issue and I'm in.
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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it makes sense hockey wise. Now tell me that Tarasenko's shoulder is not an issue and I'm in. - MJL
And since it is St. Louis who is getting the healthy player, there should be no extras. That extra cap hit mitigates the Flyers risk if Tarasenko cant stay healthy....at least a little bit. |
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Kooleus
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Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA Joined: 11.17.2018
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Because it's the closest to fair value that either side can get.
What's in it for St. Louis: healthier player and better playmaker, more productive overall recently.
For Philadelphia: a shoot-first winger, one less year of contract term (and a slight cap saving of $750K).
For both: A change in the mix and not being forced into trading from a position of weakness.
It makes sense. - bmeltzer
Or the Blues just buy out Tarasenko instead of taking on 3 years of Voracek at $8.25M. Or frankly just wait for Tarasenko to get hurt again and stash him on LTIR. |
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And since it is St. Louis who is getting the healthy player, there should be no extras. That extra cap hit mitigates the Flyers risk if Tarasenko cant stay healthy....at least a little bit. - MBFlyerfan
If I was Chuck, I'd be discussing a D-man from StLouis, possibly for Hagg or Sanheim's rights, or maybe a pick to compliment the player swap of Tarasenko for Voracek.
THAT I'd LOVE to see.
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bird diggler
St Louis Blues |
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Location: limousine ridin, jet flyin, BL, TX Joined: 01.13.2009
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I rather live with Tarasenko and let him prove value which Tarasenko will and get more at deadline...then bring in Voracek with that 3 years @ 8.25yr FORGET THAT!!!
BLUES are not trading for another assist guy that never scored more then 23goals in a season at that cap hit and it is on decline... if they do ownership should fire management immediately! |
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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hart-Land, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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it makes sense hockey wise. Now tell me that Tarasenko's shoulder is not an issue and I'm in. - MJL
This is where I’m at too. Gotta hope the doc doesn’t make a mistake on this one. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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How does swapping bad contracts help either team? My goodness. - Kooleus
Because grass is always greener on the other side....
Technically the grass is greener because that's where the cows hang out and their is more cowpoop. |
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mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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Because it's the closest to fair value that either side can get.
What's in it for St. Louis: healthier player and better playmaker, more productive overall recently.
For Philadelphia: a shoot-first winger, one less year of contract term (and a slight cap saving of $750K).
For both: A change in the mix and not being forced into trading from a position of weakness.
It makes sense. - bmeltzer
Amen Brotha! That’s what we love about Bill… logical and succinct! Thank you for your insight!
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Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA Joined: 11.17.2018
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Amen Brotha! That’s what we love about Bill… logical and succinct! Thank you for your insight! - mikeyo27
But he still hasn't established whats in it for St.Louis. Voracek has a bigger cap hit and is signed for an extra year. Why do that if they are trying to clear space for better players? Just because he is healthier than Tarasenko? I'd rather just hold Tarasenko.
1) Maybe he gets back to previous form and helps my team
2) Maybe he gets back to previous form and its easier to trade him
3) Maybe he gets hurt and goes back on LTIR which gives me the cap space back
I'll roll the dice on one of those 3 scenarios as opposed to 3 more years of $8.25M Voracek. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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it makes sense hockey wise. Now tell me that Tarasenko's shoulder is not an issue and I'm in. - MJL
Tarasenko's Shoulder is not an issue
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But he still hasn't established whats in it for St.Louis. Voracek has a bigger cap hit and is signed for an extra year. Why do that if they are trying to clear space for better players? Just because he is healthier than Tarasenko? I'd rather just hold Tarasenko.
1) Maybe he gets back to previous form and helps my team
2) Maybe he gets back to previous form and its easier to trade him
3) Maybe he gets hurt and goes back on LTIR which gives me the cap space back
I'll roll the dice on one of those 3 scenarios as opposed to 3 more years of $8.25M Voracek. - Kooleus
Tarasenko has requested a trade.
Voracek (supposedly) has also requested a trade.
The #'s are too similar not to make the swap and each player brings something the other team needs.
It just makes sense. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Confirmed: Ghost to ARI
To PHI: Cap Relief
To ARI: Ghost, 2022 2nd round pick, 2022 7th round pick
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