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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 11:25 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: I Danault if it would work, but maybe I Danault if it would work, but maybe
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
Danault could not score in a red light district with a fist full of hundreds
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Jul 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
Jeff Carter Is 36 years old which makes him very expendable.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Jul 20 @ 11:41 AM ET
I'm hoping that Danault ends up with my Minnesota Wild.
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jul 20 @ 11:44 AM ET
Did Feds hack RW's Blog?!?!? This is twice he's mentioned Tartar in a row!
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
I could see Danault getting picked by Seattle since they already have Driedger almost ready to sign.
Centers are hard to get in the expansion draft and for that reason I could see them choosing Kerfoot ahead of McCann. Maybe.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
Did Feds hack RW's Blog?!?!? This is twice he's mentioned Tartar in a row!
- Beatnic57

TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
Still don't see why RW can't grasp that it wasn't losing "McCann for nothing" when

Sid, Geno are obvious picks
He has started that He'd protect Carter
Rust, Jake, Kap - yes
So, this is the organization choosing Blueger (an ACTUAL Center), who they have locked up for 2 years over McCann (Who they TRIED at Center then REPLACED) who they have locked up for 1 year and is due a big raise, especially when compared to what Blueger is already signed for

And it frees up at least a little more money this year, and a lot more if they take Zucker or Petts free and clear
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
If they can figure out the money, I’m very into this idea.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:19 PM ET
For whatever it's worth, Jesse Marshall seems to really love Filip Hallander. Says he is the top prospect in the system and much closer to NHL ready than Poulin or Legare.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
I'm only skeptical of Danault because of his offense. He just doesn't finish enough or create enough offense on his own to be worth the premium price tag.

Averaging 11 goals per season might not cut it for a team that will desperately need secondary scoring. That's about the same output as Blueger. He's a better player than Blueger but I'd be hesitant to give him money and term.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:30 PM ET
If we are spending money on a forward I think we should bring in a guy who is a consistent proven goal scorer. Brandon Saad would probably cost less than Danault and still scores at a top line rate at 5v5.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
Is Janmark from Vegas any good? I was browsing through the UFA's. Hes like 28 and coming off a sub $3mm deal. Had liek 15g last year. I dont have hte time to follow much of the league these days.

I think hte Pens will need offensive support this year.
habtastic62
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.09.2020

Jul 20 @ 12:36 PM ET
Danault publicly stated that the reason he didn’t sign an extension in Montreal last summer was because he was afraid of becoming #3 behind KK and Suzuki, so signing to play behind Sid and Geno doesn’t make much sense.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:38 PM ET
Is Janmark from Vegas any good? I was browsing through the UFA's. Hes like 28 and coming off a sub $3mm deal. Had liek 15g last year. I dont have hte time to follow much of the league these days.

I think hte Pens will need offensive support this year.

- sammy87


He is pretty pedestrian when it comes to 5v5 production. He will top out at like 20 points at 5v5 in an 82 game season. Not worth 3 mill IMO
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:40 PM ET
@Dupuis: The JFresh model is high on him becoming an NHLer, which is good. If he can come in and be a third liner on an ELC, that takes some of the sting of losing McCann away. But obviously that’s a big ask for someone on their first year on NA ice. Marshall does make the observation that his play style shouldn’t be that affected by a change in ice, but I think expectations should be seriously tempered.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 12:49 PM ET
I keep reading that Seattle may choose Tarasenko then flip him while retaining some salary. I'm not saying Tarasekno's destiny is tied to Zucker, but I do think any available top-six winger that doesn't wind up in a Kraken sweater increases the chances of Zucker being selected.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
I keep reading that Seattle may choose Tarasenko then flip him while retaining some salary. I'm not saying Tarasekno's destiny is tied to Zucker, but I do think any available top-six winger that doesn't wind up in a Kraken sweater increases the chances of Zucker being selected.
- Rinosaur


I was reading somewhere they may take Price and trade him back to Habs with salary retained as well....they have a lot of room and options to be creative.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 12:55 PM ET
I was reading somewhere they may take Price and trade him back to Habs with salary retained as well....they have a lot of room and options to be creative.
- MattStrat


Yeah, it was already made known the NHL wouldn't allow MTL to do that. It's considered circumvention.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:58 PM ET
Yeah, it was already made known the NHL wouldn't allow MTL to do that. It's considered circumvention.
- Rinosaur


Oh hahah, well guess not then. Makes sense it would be considered circumvention.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 12:59 PM ET
Oh hahah, well guess not then. Makes sense it would be considered circumvention.
- MattStrat


Yeah, if they allowed that think of all the teams who'd give up prime picks and prospects to cut salary, i.e. McDavid, Tavares, Crosby, etc...
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
Oh hahah, well guess not then. Makes sense it would be considered circumvention.
- MattStrat


Not really. The cap hit is being accounted for as it's eaten on Seattles roster. Seattle is getting something in exchance for eating the cap hit, Montreal is giving something up for Seattle taking on the cap hit

Circumvention is the attempt to eliminate a cap hit that would otherwise be charged (Think Pre-Recapture, Guy signs 12 year 80 million contract, collects 70 million in 7 years then retires and the cap hit simply disappears. He made 10 million per but only ever accounted for 6.66 on the books) Don't get me started on LTIR

Explain to me how Price is circumvention, But David Savard being traded to Tampa through Detroit, with Detroit eating some cap ISN'T circumvention, when he never played even 1 game on Detroits roster. Detroit ate cap for compensation.

Or Orpik being traded to Colorado with compensation, being bought out, then returning to Washington on a 1 year 1 million dollar deal. Nothing changes for Washington except Orpik is now 4 million dollars cheaper and Colorado got something for eating the cap charge

It happens all the time. The NHL just makes Sh1t up as they go
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
Not really. The cap hit is being accounted for as it's eaten on Seattles roster. Seattle is getting something in exchance for eating the cap hit, Montreal is giving something up for Seattle taking on the cap hit

Circumvention is the attempt to eliminate a cap hit that would otherwise be charged (Think Pre-Recapture, Guy signs 12 year 80 million contract, collects 70 million in 7 years then retires and the cap hit simply disappears. He made 10 million per but only ever accounted for 6.66 on the books) Don't get me started on LTIR

Explain to me how Price is circumvention, But David Savard being traded to Tampa through Detroit, with Detroit eating some cap ISN'T circumvention, when he never played even 1 game on Detroits roster. Detroit ate cap for compensation.

Or Orpik being traded to Colorado with compensation, being bought out, then returning to Washington on a 1 year 1 million dollar deal. Nothing changes for Washington except Orpik is now 4 million dollars cheaper and Colorado got something for eating the cap charge

It happens all the time. The NHL just makes Sh1t up as they go

- TheGame316


You're wrong


https://twitter.com/pierr.../1416862403657142277?s=10

The rules are very clear

https://twitter.com/Blokz...tatus/1416875384117895171
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 20 @ 1:09 PM ET
Not really. The cap hit is being accounted for as it's eaten on Seattles roster. Seattle is getting something in exchance for eating the cap hit, Montreal is giving something up for Seattle taking on the cap hit

Circumvention is the attempt to eliminate a cap hit that would otherwise be charged (Think Pre-Recapture, Guy signs 12 year 80 million contract, collects 70 million in 7 years then retires and the cap hit simply disappears. He made 10 million per but only ever accounted for 6.66 on the books) Don't get me started on LTIR

Explain to me how Price is circumvention, But David Savard being traded to Tampa through Detroit, with Detroit eating some cap ISN'T circumvention, when he never played even 1 game on Detroits roster. Detroit ate cap for compensation. It happens all the time

- TheGame316



My only explanation is that he would be going back to Montreal again...thats not the case in your example.

...Or is the league getting their own CBA wrong? Or is Rino wrong in that what he read about it isnt officially from the league/true?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 20 @ 1:10 PM ET
You're wrong


https://twitter.com/pierr.../1416862403657142277?s=10

- Rinosaur


hahaha gotchya
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