Sean Maloughney: Analyzing Your Trades

I think Seattle will take JVR without the sweetener.

Sean Maloughney: Analyzing Your Trades
- Sean Maloughney

damnit

I understand Bobrovsky’s contract is absolutely ridiculous and knew it was going to hurt them but man this has reminiscents of the Vegas expansion draft when they traded Reilly Smith due to cap reasons and FLA taking Marchessault.

Maybe I have some details wrong but yeah this reminds me of 2017 in a way

I like how you did this. Good assessments, good job!

I think Seattle will take JVR without the sweetener.
- MBFlyerfan

Maybe, though Ghost is a possibility as well. My sleeper pick is Braun. Gives them an experienced RD for one season and a low cap hit.

Maybe, though Ghost is a possibility as well. My sleeper pick is Braun. Gives them an experienced RD for one season and a low cap hit.
- BiggE

I would change the deal and sub in Vorachek for JVR


Vorachek NAK 2 2nd's as a trade, and i offer a 1st round pick for them to select ghost if not i flip the 1st pick in a deal for Seth Jones.

Like I said on the earlier blog; it’s not worth it for the oilers to throw in another prospect or a first for the Krakheads to select Neal. If they don’t take it no problem. Buy out Neal and let them take a nobody.

I will accept this offer. Niku had a rough season and didn't get in nearly the number of games many fans hoped for but he is still a young defenseman with plenty of upside in his skating and puck handling abilities and exactly the kind of player an expansion team wants in their system. If such a deal happened, Seattle could take Niku in the trade and then turn around and try and offer a pending UFA like Tucker Poolman a deal and use that as their selection from the Jets. Niku, Poolman, and a pick is better value for Seattle than say just Copp or just Stanley


Except Poolman is an RFA

Thanks for including my offer! Nice to see someone thinks that I offered enough for Seattle to NOT consider certain players. Unfortunate that Niku just doesn't seem to be working out, but with Heinola and Samberg now ahead of him in the Jets long-term thinking, he was a valuable trade chip, IMO.

I like what you added pertaining Poolman. Unfortunate in my scenario that Jets would still lose him or Harkins, but we can't protect everyone. Great feedback on everyone's ideas, Fun reading!

I will accept this offer. Niku had a rough season and didn't get in nearly the number of games many fans hoped for but he is still a young defenseman with plenty of upside in his skating and puck handling abilities and exactly the kind of player an expansion team wants in their system. If such a deal happened, Seattle could take Niku in the trade and then turn around and try and offer a pending UFA like Tucker Poolman a deal and use that as their selection from the Jets. Niku, Poolman, and a pick is better value for Seattle than say just Copp or just Stanley


Except Poolman is an RFA
- wesveness

Noticed that, also, but probably a moot point. . . . Either way he is likely left exposed and could be the Kraken's selection. (if the Jets manage to protect other assets as hoped!)

Noticed that, also, but probably a moot point. . . . Either way he is likely left exposed and could be the Kraken's selection. (if the Jets manage to protect other assets as hoped!)
- Quillanrocks

Unless I'm missing something no he is not. Puckpedia and Capfriendly both list him as a pending UFA. He is 28 years old.

Unless I'm missing something no he is not. Puckpedia and Capfriendly both list him as a pending UFA. He is 28 years old.
- freelancer

Absolutely right. My bad.

I hope the Jets don't make any side deals with the Kraken and protect,
forwards Defense Goal
Scheifele Pionk Helly
Wheeler Morrissey
Ehlers Stanley
Dubois
Connor
Lowry
Copp if not signed then Appleton
All the rest are available. They have to lose one player why lose 2 and draft picks?

I hope the Jets don't make any side deals with the Kraken and protect,
forwards Defense Goal
Scheifele Pionk Helly
Wheeler Morrissey
Ehlers Stanley
Dubois
Connor
Lowry
Copp if not signed then Appleton
All the rest are available. They have to lose one player why lose 2 and draft picks?
- islansjet

So, based on your list, you'd be happier (likely) losing Copp/Appleton or perhaps Demelo? Even if all it cost the Jets was Niku--a player who's fallen WAY down the Jets depth charts and wants out--and a 3rd rounder to have them look to someone like Poolman or Harkins, instead? As Sean Maloughney said, Poolman IS UFA and might walk for nothing anyway. Too bad on Harkins, but this is a tough forward group to crack. Good chance he won't be with the Jets in 2 - 3 years time, anyhow.

Mitch Marner for your 1st round pick

I think Seattle will take JVR without the sweetener.
- MBFlyerfan

Exactly. If the Flyers decline any "sweetners"...who is Seattle going to take to show the Flyers?

NAK? Hagg? Braun?

That only hurts Seattle. A JvR pick makes sense for both clubs with or without any "sweetners" added. Now Voracek or Ghost might take a little added extra, but not JvR. UNLESS Seattle's plan is to go the opposite of Vegas and try to land one of the top picks the next few years. Then again they are most likely to be bottom of the barrel anyway no matter who they pick.

To the kraken. Jack Eichel and Jeff skinner
To the Sabres four 1st rd picks and a player of the Sabres choice.

Another team may be interested in acquiring Bean, but how many of them would protect Bean over their existing top three defensemen? I am gambling and hoping such a deal doesn't happen and either take Bean or make the Canes up the ante.

Canucks happily trade for Bean, and expose Myers to Seattle. Win win

Sean Maloughney: Analyzing Your Trades
- Sean Maloughney

you make better trades here than our hockey pool

I brought the Weber trade and I have to disagree.

https://www.ontheforechec...shville-predators-for-now

It shows that if he's retiring, Weber would cost a huge chunk to Nashville and not the Habs or potentially the Kraken. There's 4 years left on his contract. Furthermore, even tho at 7.8AAV, which shouldn't be a problem for the first 4-5 years for the Kraken. There's almost no money left to pay Weber in real life.

To take a 1st round pick and for what Weber could bring. It should be a no brainer for the Kraken

I think Seattle will take JVR without the sweetener.
- MBFlyerfan

Agreed, if he were left unprotected. Do we know that yet ? JVR was actually productive this past season at a time when other players were not. Fundamentally I have a problem with this "trade" because it isn't a trade. Flyers get nothing, unless dumping a salary is getting something. It is if the dumped player is dead weight. Not the case here. In summary, a 1rst, Aube-Kubel & JVR is way too expensive. Flyers lose 2 roster players and draft nobody in the first round when trying to transition to a younger, deeper line-up makes no sense.

Maybe, though Ghost is a possibility as well. My sleeper pick is Braun. Gives them an experienced RD for one season and a low cap hit.
- BiggE

You might be right, he is probably the most dependable player exposed considering value vs. cap hit. This would be a nightmare scenario for the Flyers as he had been the one who was bailing water out of a sinking canoe.

Exactly. If the Flyers decline any "sweetners"...who is Seattle going to take to show the Flyers?

NAK? Hagg? Braun?

That only hurts Seattle. A JvR pick makes sense for both clubs with or without any "sweetners" added. Now Voracek or Ghost might take a little added extra, but not JvR. UNLESS Seattle's plan is to go the opposite of Vegas and try to land one of the top picks the next few years. Then again they are most likely to be bottom of the barrel anyway no matter who they pick.
- Glak18

You didn’t think this thru all the way. Much like a bidding war for a player teams wanting to shed salary via expansion will be in a bidding war. They will have to outbid other teams. Seattle will take a few salary dumps for additional assets but not from everyone. So it will cost philly to dump salary. Or kraken take one of those guys you listed and get sweetener from a different team.